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The Importance of Having Female Friends

metalbird

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A big part of the focus of this site is how to have a "sexual vibe," not get "friendzoned," etc. I know personally, it's taken me a few years since finding this (mostly brilliant) advice to realize that, as with all things in life, balance is important.

What am I getting at? I think it's important to know three things:
  • How to be sexually charged
  • How to make friends with people (including girls)
  • When to take which approach

Specifically, I've found that if I'm so focused on getting laid that I "filter out" all non-sexual opportunities with women, I actually miss out on some pretty cool experiences.

Moreover, one of the best ways to meet and attract women as sexual partners is to be surrounded by women. While that's common knowledge, I've found that it's actually better for this purpose in many cases to be surrounded by female friends than lovers.

Consider the following two guys:

1. The guy with the "player" reputation who's constantly showing up to stuff with a different girl on his arm, emits a sexual vibe, and charges the air in every room with electricity. Everyone loves to hang out with him, and he makes any party vastly more entertaining. Women seem to melt around him, and he takes many of them as lovers.

2. The guy who displays strength by setting iron-solid boundaries, focuses on uplifting the people around him, and is well liked and respected by both men and women. People know they can depend on him, and they go to him in times of need. Women regard him as a fantastic relationship prospect, but only a few sleep with him.

Which of the two guys do you think will attract more high-quality women?
Which do you think will be more successful in business/life in general?
Which do you think will be introduced to more people/expand his social network more effectively?
Which is more fun to hang out with?
Which description fits you better, and which do you find yourself more drawn to?

Obviously, the two are not completely mutually exclusive. And, which type will be more effective at getting sexual partners depends on the type of woman you're targeting. The key is how to balance the two to have the most fulfilling lifestyle.

But, ever beyond that, I think that it's important to have a healthy balance to one's social life. As a general rule of thumb these days, I try to maintain something like this:

  • Max of two serious relationship prospects at a time
  • No more than two to three causal-only sexual relationships per serious relationship prospect
  • At least three female friends for each sexual relationship
  • Minimum of one sexual partner and four female friends at any given time
Some of my best relationships have been with women who were either not sexually available at all, or who I had no sexual attraction to, and who were "just" friends. What do you guys think?
 

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Good points, metalbird.

I was just thinking about this recently and decided that it is important to know what both sides really look like before you decide to take the middle road.

The business focused, strong framed individual that you describe seems like a traditional alpha. The only thing here though is that it's hard for me to see how a guy could reach this before going through a player phase. How will he know what he wants? What type of girl he will want to keep around? How he picks his friends? I think you can only gain that type of real solid frame control once you've been a player and have gone through all that turmoil that comes with the territory. Nothing is gonna test your frame control more than being under constant fire from your reputation and vibe.

If a guy does happen to go straight to traditional alpha, he's gonna be missing certain aspects of frame control and he's still going to be uncertain in some of his decisions. Someone who does have that experience will sense this and be able to break his frame closer to his core. So most people won't break his frame, but when someone who knows enough - and would even want to - does, it's gonna break his frame to the point of questioning his every action. It's not likely, because if he is an alpha, he's probably not going to be taking every challenge that's thrown at him, but if for some reason there's a seasoned player that crosses his path and hasn't yet outgrown the social jockeying, it could happen.

Balance of course is key. I believe hook ups, while they can be fun, are devoid of real emotional connection. If you don't hook up though, there's going to be a lot of personality traits you don't like that you're going to have to find out the hard way. Or you never find out, and settle for mediocrity. It's happened to my friends before, many s time. I've told some of them to their faces. Of course, not everyone wants to go through the deck to find the ace, most settle with a 7 or a Jack when they find it. But that's the difference between someone who knows both sides and someone who's just tasted one half.

Jake.
 

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Nice post. Answers quite a few of the millions of questions free-falling in my head.

Thank you
 
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