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ConnorJaay

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OKay.. I'm trying to get my girl back, I know it will be hard and I kind of know what to do, but I have made mistakes hat will make it harder and the page on girlschase.com is helpful, but I need advice based on this situation. I'll try and be short to save you nice people some time.
I started seeing this girl very quickly after meeting her. So we went into it not really knowing what to expect.. Well we talked a lot for a month before actually doing anything. I'd get invited to her house after a party at which we shared many kisses and spent nearly the whole night in each others arms. I went to her house a few days after. Spent a good few hours there. Because we both thought it was just alcohol that lead us to kiss, we where just watching a film for the beginning. Then i started play fighting and yeah.. we kissed passionately and cuddled for the remaining half hour. We then shared many more kisses after it was time for me to leave. After that day, she'd text me near enough all day if she could and id do the same. Just talking about how much we missed each other. This went on until we organised another day to go to hers (we had to make it when her parents weren't in). Yes, we're young haha. We're 17, nearly 18. Because school is school, rumours started going around before the day i went to hers that I only wanted to have sex with her (well, yeah eventually), but I wanted a committed relationship. During this day, you'd expect us to be all over each other, right? Nope. She didnt move to hug or kiss me when I moved in the door and i thought she heard the rumours and was going to tackle me about it. I was nervous at this point (I know I regret all of this, don't give me such a hard time haha) and basically, we shared one passionate kiss and lots of goodbyes. The rest of the time we were cuddling at which point she fell asleep.
After this she wasn't textign as much and I got scared. Yes, I had low self esteem but I have recovered now. I didnt text her for two days after a week of her not texting like normal and sure enough she texted. Then people started telling me things about her, that she was just using me etc etc, so I asked her what changed between us. I asked her out multiple times and she made excuses. Filled with anger about her apparently using me, i kept pushing for an answer. She didn't want to tell me, but she says she doesnt feel the same. She also says she doesn't know why. She said I was more than good enough and after that message, we didn't speak for two weeks. Then i texted her (another mistake) asking her for a reason and telling her I'd wait for her. I said I'd wait for her because she'd being suffering from anxiety and panic attacks had being coming. She said yet agin she doesn't know what changed and she feels awful about it. I told her how much she meant to me and we haven't spoke since. But when she said she's sorry for it over text, I acted like it was no big deal telling her not to worry about it etc etc which was right, I think?

Now.. It's been roughly a week since we've had contact. We're both going to this party on Friday night and we'll both be drinking. I'm guessing the best thing to do is try and regain control? I want to tell her that i don't know what I'm really feeling, but I still care and would like to remain friends. Is this right? After that I'll be going off to be my mate's wingman haha So I'll be flirting with a lot of girls with her possibly seeing some of it. I don't think kissing another girl would be wise as she'll think I've completely moved on... Or should I try get a kiss?

Next thing is in a month's time, we will both be in a concert. We're both musicians and it's how we met. I don't plan on talking to her at all until this concert, where I'll be normal and just like I was when I met her. Then I was thinking, if i see her completely comfortable with me, I'd take her aside at the end of the night and ask again what changed. When she will probably say "I don't know" I was thinking asking about if it's attraction. Then when she will say "I don't know" or something along those lines i was thinking on saying "so if I did this" and kissing her? As the main reason i lost her being I never kissed her when I should've...

I know this is a lot to read and the information on the main site is very helpful, are these the rigth things to do? If not, what should I do?
I also think I lost her because another guy would've got her attention possibly... But we all think this after a breakup, right?
Please guys, I know I'm young, but help me learn?

Thanks in advance :)))
 

ConnorJaay

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This is mainly because I don't know what turned her cold in the first place... Guys I know I'm young, but please help me out? Yes I sound desperate, but she was different to the other girls I've had... Like really!
 

Eric

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ConnorJaay said:
This is mainly because I don't know what turned her cold in the first place... Guys I know I'm young, but please help me out? Yes I sound desperate, but she was different to the other girls I've had... Like really!

Look, we could give you advice. We could tell you how to get this girl back, and it might even work and you might even win her back. I won't. Maybe someone else will, but I won't.

Why?

Because what you WANT and what is GOOD for you are not the same thing, and I'm not going to enable that. I want what is good for you.

Your model of dating is flawed and coming from a place of need and lack of experience. This girl IS different from others, sure. This girl most likely is NOT better and you can find 1000x better girls if you get your head out of your ass and try your damndest to improve yourself. And after you struggle and struggle, like we did, and after you pull yourself out of the deepest hole you find yourself in, THEN you'll find a girl . Guarantee'd. Read the material, don't come crawling to others to solve your problems for you that YOU'VE created.

That's all I have to say.
 

ConnorJaay

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Okay... Please give me advice on this.. I know it sound right damn stupid, but I can see myself improving already. I'm not as self conscious anymore and I feel more confident. Just, I need her in my life... Can you not give advice on even getting her as a friend again? Just please :)
 

Eric

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ConnorJaay said:
Okay... Please give me advice on this.. I know it sound right damn stupid, but I can see myself improving already. I'm not as self conscious anymore and I feel more confident. Just, I need her in my life... Can you not give advice on even getting her as a friend again? Just please :)

No.

I won't, you only want to listen to what you want to hear.
 

ConnorJaay

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Okay. You're right in that and I respect that. I realise that I've lost her and probably for good. I just want to try and turn it around. I mean, I'm not over her, I'm just content with it being over. I made mistakes that I've learnt from. I care about her so much.
 

TheWiseFool

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ConorJaay,

I need her in my life...
insert the word DON'T in front of need. Now imagine what your life would be like IF AT THIS VERY MOMENT you were living that life. Now live that life.

And if you want to continue believing that you NEED her, then check back here in 2 years and tell me if you still believe you need her.

2 years is usually the time it takes to get over someone. Usually.

Heck, you know what. Right down every single possible reason why you think this girl is amazing. For each of those reasons, answer whether or not you can feel or get that same thing from another woman. Most likely, each one will have a yes next to it. Now that you know you can meet women who have that or all of those qualities AND MORE, why stay stuck on her? Cause she's the only one? I get it man. A lot of guys get it. But the thing is you move on... life doesn't revolve around one person, it goes on. If you want to spend years of your life in dedication to a woman who may be sleeping with other men, not even thinking of you, or making something of her life, then go ahead! Just no, you're stuck in the past and she is probably trying to move on towards her future.

Everytime you say you need her, tell yourself you don't. Everytime you think of something amazing about her, think another woman who shares that same quality. If you ACTUALLY do what I say, you'll begin to realize that she isn't that special.

She's only special because YOU MAKE HER SPECIAL. Nothing is true but that which we believe is true. We give meaning to things. You give meaning to this girl. You can just as easily take away that meaning.

Until you make the decision that you are going to live life without her in it, then you will never truly be over her. You will only be keeping yourself at the cusp of having her and that isn't having her, that is chasing after a goal that will never ever ever come true. Remember the story of sisyphus? He pushes a boulder up a hill again and again only to have it roll down. Chasing after some goal that will never come true. It is eternal punishment. You are sentencing and allowing yourself to suffer again and again. You get better but you never come clean. You gain some ground, but you never win the war.

Let.go. let. her. go.

As you said, you are young. I met a girl who was unlike the rest and I thought I'd never meet one like her again, I still haven't found another but does that mean a girl like her isn't out there, no. I am just looking in all the wrong places or it isn't time yet or I haven't been searching hard enough. I'd rather be lost without her and in the current state that I am than stuck with her whining and pining over her while she would be out with her friends somewhere partying with some guy I don't know.

This is my one and only advice. I see that Eric has given you the hard truth and you haven't taken it.
From my one inference, I'm assuming your next post will say you understand followed by a question on how you can have her in some way or another. As I said, I get it, a bunch of other guys get it, now YOU NEED TO GET IT. Get over her, get on with life by getting more women in it.

May peace come to mind, love where it has been lost, and release from the things that keep your mind running during the day and into the long hours of the night,
 

ConnorJaay

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Honestly.. I was finding to think that way because well.. She was the first girl that felt different and important to me. And you guys are 100% right... I just haven't had the experience. Like, fair enough I still can't see how I'm going to meet someone better, but I'm going to believe it... If she misses me and wants me back within a few months, hopefully I'll be strong enough to reject. Because the way I see it, I'm the nice guy safety net she can turn to if a guy bails on her.. I mean she's my first love so she'll obviously have a permanent impact on my life, but she's the first of many the way I see it. I've started finding myself going through this... In person I don't care that she doesn't come up and hug me or whatever, I just see all te negatives when I'm say at home doing nothing... Thanks for your wise words.. And Eric too.. I keep havin up and downs about moving on, and that was one of my downs. She probably doesn't care and neither should I.. I will probably always care about her... Just not about "us".

Thanks again, brothers. Moving on takes time, but I'm sure I'll manage haha.
Everything happens for a reason.
 

Eric

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ConnorJaay said:
Honestly.. I was finding to think that way because well.. She was the first girl that felt different and important to me. And you guys are 100% right... I just haven't had the experience. Like, fair enough I still can't see how I'm going to meet someone better, but I'm going to believe it... If she misses me and wants me back within a few months, hopefully I'll be strong enough to reject. Because the way I see it, I'm the nice guy safety net she can turn to if a guy bails on her.. I mean she's my first love so she'll obviously have a permanent impact on my life, but she's the first of many the way I see it. I've started finding myself going through this... In person I don't care that she doesn't come up and hug me or whatever, I just see all te negatives when I'm say at home doing nothing... Thanks for your wise words.. And Eric too.. I keep havin up and downs about moving on, and that was one of my downs. She probably doesn't care and neither should I.. I will probably always care about her... Just not about "us".

Thanks again, brothers. Moving on takes time, but I'm sure I'll manage haha.
Everything happens for a reason.

No worries.

I just recently broke up with, essentially, a girl that was my first love.

She was awesome in every way, daughter of a supermodel, extremely ambitious, doting, almost everything I wanted.

She was cheating on me with one of my closest friends, and to briefly state who she really is... a con-artist who seduces men (she has a billionaire sending her hundreds of thousands a year).

I set myself hard rules not to get back with her, no matter what. I did NOT trust myself. I made my best friend promise that if I ever even thought about it that he'd quit being my friend and kick my ass (literally). My close friend did not, and she sucked him back into a relationship.

Nice People Need Hard Rules

Make sure you set some rules for yourself. Some damn hard ones, and make sure there are consequences.
 

TheWiseFool

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Honestly.. I was finding to think that way because well.. She was the first girl that felt different and important to me. And you guys are 100% right... I just haven't had the experience. Like, fair enough I still can't see how I'm going to meet someone better, but I'm going to believe it... If she misses me and wants me back within a few months, hopefully I'll be strong enough to reject. Because the way I see it, I'm the nice guy safety net she can turn to if a guy bails on her.. I mean she's my first love so she'll obviously have a permanent impact on my life, but she's the first of many the way I see it. I've started finding myself going through this... In person I don't care that she doesn't come up and hug me or whatever, I just see all te negatives when I'm say at home doing nothing... Thanks for your wise words.. And Eric too.. I keep havin up and downs about moving on, and that was one of my downs. She probably doesn't care and neither should I.. I will probably always care about her... Just not about "us".

Thanks again, brothers. Moving on takes time, but I'm sure I'll manage haha.
Everything happens for a reason.
I get it man. I have a memory for each one and although I may remember some things clear as day, the feeling has changed because I chose to move on. I probably sounded harsh but the words I gave to you are the kinds I wish I had someone telling me. I didn't have anyone when I needed it the most, and I just want you to know the hard truth because as Eric said,
I want what is good for you.
Not what you want to hear, but what you need to hear. Hopefully you see that to and hopefully you see what you need to do what is best for you in the long run even though it conflicts with what you believe at this present moment. Be confident and believe and choose the direction that is best for you. Do not doubt your success, but understand that there will be trials. Trials that you might not win over every time, but you will get back up whenever you fall and fail because getting up and moving forward is better than laying face down on the mud crying over things that can't be changed.

Reject those thoughts and voices that tell you you need her. Think of other things that give you the same feelings and be thankful that you have them in your life. Be thankful for the good things in your life. Become more active, whether it be with work, with becoming a better man, creating a better society. Take these emotions and feelings you have now and use them as the fuel for your success. I want to be better than I am now, I don't want to be like this, I refuse to be like this!

Don't just hear the words, read them and believe them and move forward.

I'd wish you luck but you don't need it,
 
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I know this is a lot to read and the information on the main site is very helpful, are these the rigth things to do? If not, what should I do?
I also think I lost her because another guy would've got her attention possibly... But we all think this after a breakup, right?
Please guys, I know I'm young, but help me learn?

You lost her not because of what you did wrong. You lost her because you're simply not the one for her.
She's far too young to be knowing what she wants. Even women at their mid 20's don't.
Don't be surprised that she suddenly realises that you're not what she's after.

Take it like a man and move on buddy. That's how you learn.
 
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