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I guess I am kinda in that state of mind of wanting to make up for lost time and wanting to not feel lonely, who knows what.

It seems like in college, guys had Greek Life and other sources to turn to if they wanted to go places with a large group of people that consisted of hot girls and fun guys. I wonder, for an adult male who is no longer in a "closed system", how hard is this to do?

I don't just want to sleep with hot girls, I want to go out and do things with them. Go to events with a group of them, go out to dinner with a group of them, and that sort of stuff.

How hard is it to do this sort of thing?
 

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radeng said:
Proactivity,

Dude I see you've been posting different versions of the same question for a long time now. Why don't you describe your life and your current situation with girls and friends and we can help. Every time you've asked, the answer is always the same: yes it's totally possible to have a big social circle, even as you age, with cool guys and hot girls who party a lot.

Now let us actually help you. Post up your particular situation or field reports and we can offer guidance.

Radeng

Sure thing man, and thanks for helping me out in all of those threads as well.

So I graduated college about 5 or so years ago. Ever since graduating I've moved to a medium sized city and I spend Mondays through Friday working a 9 to 5 type of job. After working that job, I spend two days of the week going out to bars and I also use Tinder and other apps to help raise my lay count. I've gotten laid 3 times this year so far, two from Tinder and one from bar game.

Right now I am trying to find weekend work in the service industry to go along with my job as well. Still dealing with some mental issues of being left out in my earlier years which is why I sometimes whine on this board, which I understand is well beyond annoying for some.
 

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Hope you don't mind the format.

radeng said:
Sure thing! It sounds like were around the same age and I've had a lot of the experience you look for so its natural for me to answer your posts!

Let me ask tho:
1) Do you go out alone or with friends?

I always go out alone, cannot find friends to go out with and coworkers are a bad choice IMO. Most friends I make are not the type that want to go out.


2) How often do you cold approach when out? How adverse are to approaching?

I make small talk and I talk to some girls but I never go all out PUA like those Simple Pickup guys. I would say that I do it every now and then but I don't do it every day.

3) Do you go to bars on the weekends or no?

Yes, I go bar hopping almost every weekend.

4) Did you keep any of those lays around or are you currently totally single?

I have kept some around but I am not looking for a relationship. My lays usually don't have that big of a social life themselves, their friends are off getting married while they are the ones focusing on their careers and use apps to meet guys on their free time. Some of them have been staying int he city temporarily.

5) How long have you been in your city and do you feel like you can generally connect well with people there or do you feel like more of an outsider? Do you go to bars with mostly people your age or much younger or do you mix it up?

Been here for about a year, feel like an outsider. I go to bars alone.

6) if you have a current social circle, whats your reason for wanting to grow it?

I really don't to be honest. I have some friends but they look down on the bar and club scene.

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The problem with saying "medium sized city" is that this can mean a lot of things and some cities are way better than others. For someone who wants to party a lot, the quickest way to get what you desire may be to move to a bigger city thats known for its party scene. Many party cities, actually cater to a 25-35 year old crowd while smaller college cities may cater to a younger crowd.

I hear you often lament about how you want younger girls, which is totally fine, but big cities usually attract much hotter older women, where as smaller college towns will only have the best pickins from the younger women that have not moved out to the bigger cities yet.

Catch 22 there though, I find that the younger college towns also have a lot of other obstacles that I have issues overcoming. For example, Greek Life is huge at a lot of these college towns and the hotties are usually in sororities. I have always had a tough time breaking into those circles and as have many others I've known. Very tight knit group there.

Certainly anyone can do well anywhere, I truly believe that, but if you want the easiest time, location does matter.

Ya, we need to do a post on which cities are great for guys like me! :)

Anyway, answer me the other questions, and let me know where your current social circle stands. I can tell you that theres no reason you can't have exactly what you want in your situation, however, you may have to put in some work that your a bit adverse against. However, if you're going out 2x a week in whatever circumstance, your already on a good path and have yourself over a big hump in going from never out to regularly out.

Yup but I am going out alone.

Radeng
 

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Social Circle to me implies that you will be doing stuff with Attractive women.

So what does an Attractive Woman in your target age range DO? Go to galleries? Taste Wine? Volunteer? Watch NASCAR? Race Hot Rods?

Take a look at your Matches on dating sites and see what interests the most attractive ones have.

Hitting bars and clubs might be the best way to find a lay, but it is pretty random for someone with common interests.

Now to me attractive women are active in the outdoors, Mountain biking, running, rock climbing etc. So I do that stuff. Most of those core females in that group are not going to be targets per se. But they have friends who could be. They invite me to parties where these people are, we go to bars for beers where those people are, they get together for destination trips together...That is Social Circle.

So focus on your interests and see who shows up.
 

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The problem for me so far has been getting friends to go out with, having to spend birthdays alone, and just having problems with that sort of stuff. So all in all, my long term goal is to eventually be at a place with my social life where I am throwing a part at y house and it has a mixture of fun guys and hot girls. I also want to be in a situation where I can get a large group of people to go out to those events with me.
 

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Pro...

Maybe you no hear me too good. What do you like to do?

When you work all week and get a paycheck, pay the bills you have to , and have money left over. What do you do with that weekend time and money?

Do you go bowling?
Play golf?
watch old movies at matinees?
go to car shows?
Play Darts?
Go beer or wine tasting?
Shoot pool?



No matter what you do THERE IS A CLUB OR A TEAM for it. Join it.

That becomes your Social Circle base.

Those are the people you go out with. They are the ones you invite over for a BBQ.

You start by doing those events solo, and meeting other people there, then introducing yourself and having conversations. you show up at three or more of these events that are often open to the public and you are now a regular and people know your name.
 

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Thanks, I was thinking about picking up a part time job as a bartender but it seems to be almost impossible to get....
 
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Proactivity said:
Thanks, I was thinking about picking up a part time job as a bartender but it seems to be almost impossible to get....

Start as a Busser or Bar back, during the slow times you talk with the bartender about the various mixers and spirits. Express an interest in learning more. Ask about bartender classes. Then take the slow shifts while you learn, fill in on the busy nights.
It is like any skill that demands mastery time and practice are key..
 

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TwoRocky's points sound like some great ideas.

To your point about bartending:

I don't bartend myself, but I do have friends that used to bartend and they definitely got their starts as barbacks and bussers, depending on the restaurant/bar/establishment.

A lot of restaurants with bars have more opportunities to get your foot in the door working next to the bartender, and I've also been told that having real barista experience (as in specialty coffee, not Starbucks/Coffee Bean/Peets but more along the lines of Intelligentsia, Blue Bottle, Stumptown, etc...) translates well to the bartending scene.

It's not a direct transfer of skills, but having the ability to multitask, create multiple orders and juggle a lot of things at the same time helps. I've been a barista for 3 years, and I've been pondering the jump into mixology.

If you're willing to put in the work, it's definitely possible to get into it. But you have to start small and build some experience. It also helps to befriend people in the scene as well.
 
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