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The post-approach cooling-off effect: why does it happen?

Arnav

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Hi everyone,

i have been failing date propsoals over and over again in exactly they same manner.

I have been good interactions and approaches where girls recieve me warmly I have 10-15 min conv where I aks them about their dreams,hobbies, tease a little, get some compliance and qualify them, ask them out and then numner close them

Their resposne to the ice breaker text on the same day is pretty enthusiastic

But he next few days thekr attraction and emotions cools off and they are non commital to my date proposal texts, or dodge them this happens with all my nunmber closes in exactly the same manner.

Has something like this happened to you where good chemistry and attraction cools off after the approach in the next dew days, whats causes this post approach cooling off and how can i fix it?
 

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Everything in your checklist could be done in less time.
Date with a green girl should be scheduled ASAP for ASAP.
Interactions should be sexually-charged enough that by 15 minutes in, you’re making out—unless SDL is there.
 

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Hi everyone,

i have been failing date propsoals over and over again in exactly they same manner.

I have been good interactions and approaches where girls recieve me warmly I have 10-15 min conv where I aks them about their dreams,hobbies, tease a little, get some compliance and qualify them, ask them out and then numner close them

Their resposne to the ice breaker text on the same day is pretty enthusiastic

But he next few days thekr attraction and emotions cools off and they are non commital to my date proposal texts, or dodge them this happens with all my nunmber closes in exactly the same manner.

Has something like this happened to you where good chemistry and attraction cools off after the approach in the next dew days, whats causes this post approach cooling off and how can i fix it?

Writing a field report with the full text conversation is best, you might be missing a lot of context in your point of view of what happened.

Unless you are making a big mistake with texting, it's usually the approach itself where the problem occurred. A lot of times when girls are in your presence they don't notice things that afterward they don't feel good about.

In my experience ghosting/flaking is usually the girl feeling like I don't genuinely like her for her.
 

Arnav

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Writing a field report with the full text conversation is best, you might be missing a lot of context in your point of view of what happened.

Unless you are making a big mistake with texting, it's usually the approach itself where the problem occurred. A lot of times when girls are in your presence they don't notice things that afterward they don't feel good about.

In my experience ghosting/flaking is usually the girl feeling like I don't genuinely like her for her.
 

Arnav

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Writing a field report with the full text conversation is best, you might be missing a lot of context in your point of view of what happened.

Unless you are making a big mistake with texting, it's usually the approach itself where the problem occurred. A lot of times when girls are in your presence they don't notice things that afterward they don't feel good about.

In my experience ghosting/flaking is usually the girl feeling like I don't genuinely like her for her.
here is the field report of the interactino with the girl , I checked all major points I think - touch, qualification, compliacne, ask on a high point , end the interaction well.


(I see a girl walking with her phone walking on the subway waiting area and approach her)

me: hi excuse me , I just saw you passing by and I think you're dressing sense is pretty good.
she: thank you so much ( says smiling )
me: I am arnva , by the way
she: okay I am monica
me: monica?
she:yeah
me: okay, nice to meet you monica. *shake her hand *
me; so are you a college student or are you working?
she: I work in media, in films and production.
me: oh nice, you shoot movies and stuff?
she: yes.
me; Okay what kind of stuff have you shot, any famous movies?
she: I mostly shoot songs and have worked in some indie movies as well.
me: so you're a director?
she: no I am writer, I write scripts . but I direct as wel sometimes. what about you, what do you do?
me: I work in a creative agency, I do copywriting and advertisign stuff like that.
she:eek:kay
me: so are you going this way ? ( pointing to the train platform)
she:yes
me: okay me too, lets walk and talk
she : (starts walking with me ) +compliance
me: so tell me working in the film industry you must meet some famous celebrities, are they even more good looking in person than screen
she: nothing like that it's just make up , and all the hairstylist and professionals make them look better.
me: okay so any actors so saw on a set , you had a crush on ?( moving conv towards attraction and dating )
she: no, I don't have a crush on any actor. I am self obssesed.
me: ohh really, so nobody measure up to you. you're the best
she: starts laughing , yeah
me: okay I have a cursh right now on this actress, (mention some newcomber actress),
I love how girl next door she is , and there is another actress that I used to be obssesed by ( mention a big famous actresss)
I used to love her.
she: yeah that actress is pretty
me: you know that movie she acted in , where she is drunk and there is a club scene where she takes off her jacket and then her specs.
maybe you can try that in you home in front of the mirror ( I say that while lauging)
she: starts laughing as well.
* train arrives, we get in the train together *
me: so which station do you get off? ( checking logistics)
she: it's the last one
me: okay so a long way you come from work so far, it must be pretty hectic
she: no it's not that far I can manage, you work nearby as well
me: oh no , I came here today to meet a freind
she: okay
me: so what do you parents think about your professions are they supportive ? ( deep diving)
she: yeah they are pretty supportive, in the early days they were skpetical and din't think I could have a future here but I had talent and my father said when you have such talent it's gift from god.
me: okay that's nice, because if you don't have your famliy's support you have a more difficult time.
she: yeah but you also have to give them reasons to support you. now I have a good job in this profession, I have stability good money. so they have more trust in me now.
me: sure , makes sense.
me: so do you have a dream project as well a movie that you would like to make ( deep dive)
she: yes I think every creative has a dream project that they want to make
me: so you have a script ready for it , hiding somewhere
she: yeah I have something I want to make, but I will not give it to anyone else, you cannot trust people in this industry they willl copy your work and take credit.
me: okay, so what kind of scrip is it? is it action movie?
she: no, Idon't like aciton movies, it's a romanitc movei.
me: okay so you want to make a romantic movie, is it like a tragic romantic movie where the lover dies?
she: ( laughs) no, light hearted innocent romantic moveis. I like those
me: okay so movies like ( mention a famous directors name who makes romcoms)
she: yess, I like the movies he makes.
me: hey I think my bottle is leaking in my bag, can you hold my phone for a min while I check it
( I hand her my phone while I open my bag and check my bottle ) + compliance
me: I thought it was leaking, anyways thanks. ( get my phone from her back )
me: so you were telling me about movies. so you're going to get it made?
she: it's going to take time, you cant really trust everyone in the industry and also I am a girl , I know how peole look at me in this profession. I can tell by their vibe that they are interested in something else other than my script when I talk to them.
me: really ? they look at you with bad intentions? I thought that was for actress not writers
she: yeah you are rigth actresses have it worse and it's much lesser for wrtiers, but still it's there.
me: okay, you know I really like that you are so determined most people can't really sustain this kind of effort (+qualification)
she: yeah you're right, it's difficult not everyone makes it but you have to keep working hard and working to get better
me: so anything else than writing that gets you interested? singing dancing

she: I direct songs as well, I have worked with musicians and can direct and give feedback but I am not a good singer
me: okay so peolpe have suffered your singing
she: laughs , no
me: hey that ring looks nice,( I take her hand to see her ring ) ( no hesitation or resitance to my touches + good sign)
is it diamond? oh you have it on both hands ( take her other hand as well )
she: yeah it's diamond
me: oh so you're a rich girl
( leave her hand s)
she: (laughs ) no I just bought it for myself as gift
me: okay I also bough a dimaond ring for my mother. they were not as expensive as I thought
she: yeah diamonds are quite affordable
me: yeah so do you have any freinds in your industry or you like to keep it professional and have your friends from your social circle college or school
she: I don't have much friends in the industry , I don't usually get time
( I start looking at her right eye more , thinking sexuall thoughts while listening to her maybe it
gets some state transfer to her )
me: so who is your best freinds ? ( deep dive)
she: my best freind is my sister, that's who I talk to most
me: what's her name?
she: her name is xyz
me: so you share all your personal stuff your professional setbacks with xyz
she: no I don't talk about anything related to work with her, she won't really understand.
me: okay , hey your phone cover looks intresting it's has these flower stickers , you made this?
( taker her phone from her hand )
she: she shows it to me and comples +compliance
She: laughs no I am not that creative and idle time to sit and make this, just bought it from somewhere
Me: oh okay, ( since she is laughing right now , I see this as a high point )
Me: so you do you ever get free time from work?
she: I don't usually get free time from work
me: beacuse If you do maybe we can meet outside sometime.
she: okay
me: are you on what's app? whats you no
she: I'll give you my insta
me: okay (i take out my phone and it's taking some time to open )
me: hey I think my insta is stuck, you can give me your number , and if you do get some free time you can reply back , if you're busy then you don't have to reply
she: okay
me: great , what your number?
she: gives me her number.
* I take her number and then continue to talk usually*
me: so do you like travelling, have you been anywhere interesting lately?
she: yeah I would love to travel , I went to xyz place the last time, but I didn't like it there much
me: really , but that place is a famous tourist spot.
she: I know but it was too crowded at that time, my sister lives in abc though and she was asking me to come there , so I am thinking of going there some time.
me: yeah that place is intersting too, lot of snowfall right, you want to go to cold places
she: yeah I will go there sometime.
me: ( it's already 15 mins so I decide to end the interaction here and rember to end it on a high.)
she is conituning to talk about something , I interrupt her )
me: hey I have to gett off at the next sation
she: oh okay, sure. ( smiling warmly )( I can see she was enjoying talking to me .
me: I will wait for your future film projects, that's going to be a summer blockbuster ( I say this with high energy smiling enthusiastically)
she: oh yeah sure. ( smiling very wamrly (
me: okay bye
she: bye

(she was smiling warmly throughout the interaction, I made her laugh at points, compliance, touch checked, asked on reasonably high note when she was smiling , ended the interaciton on high note as wel l)


here is the texting
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icebreaker text

arnav: Was lovely meeting you today :) ~arnav
Monica: Same here!✨

1 day later
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arnva: Hey monica

Hope your day’s been full of good ideas and creative sparks that make writing fun. ( consideration for her)

I had a good shopping day yesterday, sometimes I swear I want to raid the entire store if they let me. ( new info about me)

Anyways, when do you get some free time? We should catch up and meet one of these days. ( schedule schedule check and date ask )

no response from her it's been 2 days.

====================

the same thing has been happening over and over to me, good conversation, girl is warm , smiling I get compliance qualification, agrees to meeting, warm response to ice-breaker
then dodges date proposal or doesn't respond the next days

seems like the warmth and conneciton on the approach doesn't carry over to the next day and cools off entirely.

how do I fix this?
 

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Try shortening the initial interaction and don't build too much of a connection.
 

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here is the field report of the interactino with the girl , I checked all major points I think - touch, qualification, compliacne, ask on a high point , end the interaction well.





here is the texting
=================
icebreaker text

arnav: Was lovely meeting you today :) ~arnav
Monica: Same here!✨

1 day later
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arnva: Hey monica

Hope your day’s been full of good ideas and creative sparks that make writing fun. ( consideration for her)

I had a good shopping day yesterday, sometimes I swear I want to raid the entire store if they let me. ( new info about me)

Anyways, when do you get some free time? We should catch up and meet one of these days. ( schedule schedule check and date ask )

no response from her it's been 2 days.

====================

the same thing has been happening over and over to me, good conversation, girl is warm , smiling I get compliance qualification, agrees to meeting, warm response to ice-breaker
then dodges date proposal or doesn't respond the next days

seems like the warmth and conneciton on the approach doesn't carry over to the next day and cools off entirely.

how do I fix this?

@Arnav, a few things stood out to me.

The first one is that when she tells you something, you don't really connect with it before moving onto the next topic. And you switch topics quite a lot of times, each time starting with "So...".

In the moment she's probably not going to notice but afterward she could have the sense that while she spoke to you for a long time, she never really vibed with you over anything.

When you look at the interaction as a whole, you asked her a LOT of questions but you never really offered any information about yourself. So afterward she could have the sense of "he asked me a lot about myself but I know nothing about him". Which can create some anxiety and sense of disconnect.

You missed a huge opportunity to vibe with her over something you had in common (writing) which is also by all accounts her main interest. Instead you started talking about how attractive the actors and actresses are (which could be fine, but then again she might be jealous of them). In any case, you could've gone a lot deeper on writing:

- Why do you like writing?
- When did you start writing?
- What's your favorite thing you've written?
- What's your dream as a writer?
- etc

And these are things you could speak on yourself as a writer as well.

Also, the follow up text you sent reinforced the lack of connection.

Hope your day’s been full of good ideas and creative sparks that make writing fun. ( consideration for her)

I had a good shopping day yesterday, sometimes I swear I want to raid the entire store if they let me. ( new info about me)

It's too over-the-top, and since you never actually conversed about writing, I can see you struggled to bring it up in a way that felt natural. If you'd already spoken about it you could easily make some kind of callback to the high point.

The shopping line also (to be blunt) is lame, as a busy guy with shit to do having a good or bad shopping day should be the least of your concerns. It comes across, again, as struggling to relate. I know because I've written loads of lame melodramatic texts about nothing after failing to make a connection with a girl over anything.

You are clearly good at:

- Making her feel comfortable with you on the approach.
- Creating good emotions during the approach.
- Bantering in general.

but I'd say your biggest issue is knowing where to lead the conversation, and pacing things properly with responses of your own to give her a sense of your identity and your presence in the interaction.

In this case, my sense is that she felt like you were just some random guy who is thinking of questions to ask, but wasn't really interested in and didn't have much in common with her as a person. And better conversation skills would solve that.

I'd suggest also that when you are talking to a girl, try to keep in mind the question "what do I really want to know about this girl, other than that she's hot?". That will give you a compass heading for where to lead the conversation in a way where she genuinely feels your interest. Banter is good but remember you are qualifying her as someone you want to spend time with, not the other way around.
 

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@Arnav, a few things stood out to me.

The first one is that when she tells you something, you don't really connect with it before moving onto the next topic. And you switch topics quite a lot of times, each time starting with "So...".

In the moment she's probably not going to notice but afterward she could have the sense that while she spoke to you for a long time, she never really vibed with you over anything.

When you look at the interaction as a whole, you asked her a LOT of questions but you never really offered any information about yourself. So afterward she could have the sense of "he asked me a lot about myself but I know nothing about him". Which can create some anxiety and sense of disconnect.

You missed a huge opportunity to vibe with her over something you had in common (writing) which is also by all accounts her main interest. Instead you started talking about how attractive the actors and actresses are (which could be fine, but then again she might be jealous of them). In any case, you could've gone a lot deeper on writing:

- Why do you like writing?
- When did you start writing?
- What's your favorite thing you've written?
- What's your dream as a writer?
- etc

And these are things you could speak on yourself as a writer as well.

Also, the follow up text you sent reinforced the lack of connection.



It's too over-the-top, and since you never actually conversed about writing, I can see you struggled to bring it up in a way that felt natural. If you'd already spoken about it you could easily make some kind of callback to the high point.

The shopping line also (to be blunt) is lame, as a busy guy with shit to do having a good or bad shopping day should be the least of your concerns. It comes across, again, as struggling to relate. I know because I've written loads of lame melodramatic texts about nothing after failing to make a connection with a girl over anything.

You are clearly good at:

- Making her feel comfortable with you on the approach.
- Creating good emotions during the approach.
- Bantering in general.

but I'd say your biggest issue is knowing where to lead the conversation, and pacing things properly with responses of your own to give her a sense of your identity and your presence in the interaction.

In this case, my sense is that she felt like you were just some random guy who is thinking of questions to ask, but wasn't really interested in and didn't have much in common with her as a person. And better conversation skills would solve that.

I'd suggest also that when you are talking to a girl, try to keep in mind the question "what do I really want to know about this girl, other than that she's hot?". That will give you a compass heading for where to lead the conversation in a way where she genuinely feels your interest. Banter is good but remember you are qualifying her as someone you want to spend time with, not the other way around.
Thanks a lot will, that was a very good analysis I can feel you're pretty spot on, now that I look back on the interaction.

I have 2 questions
1. about me not offering much information- isn't mot of the pic up advice on the site - to make the girl do most of the talking and not reveal kuch about yourself to remain mysterious which ups attraction.

2. What do you mean by she might have felt a lack of conmection, doesn't my deep diving about her dreams of ebing a writer, her close friends and about her family realtions create that. Is my understanding of deep diving and cresting an emotional connection off?
 

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1. about me not offering much information- isn't mot of the pic up advice on the site - to make the girl do most of the talking and not reveal kuch about yourself to remain mysterious which ups attraction.

In my opinion, this is more so for the date, where sexual escalation comes in to resolve the tension of being with a strange man.

During the initial approach, you need to relate more of yourself so that she is comfortable enough to come on the date with you. It's a short interaction and your main goal is to make it easy for her to say "yes" to the date. Too much tension creates anxiety, which, when you are no longer with her, you cannot manage.

You also don't have a lot of time on the approach to create any real sense of mystery about yourself. Remember mystery is not just created by what is unknown, but also by how what is known creates curiosity. Where did you make her curious about you?

2. What do you mean by she might have felt a lack of conmection, doesn't my deep diving about her dreams of ebing a writer, her close friends and about her family realtions create that. Is my understanding of deep diving and cresting an emotional connection off?

You did ask about her dream project, but you never vibed with her over the experience of writing, which is something that you as a writer could easily articulate.

E.g.

You: "what do you most like about writing?"
Her: "Just creating my own world with interesting characters."
You: "So when you're writing, time slips away, you forget about everything and the only thing that exists is the world you're writing about."
Her: "Yeah!"
You: "I feel that way sometimes, especially when I'm writing something I deeply relate to myself."

This is vibing. It's not about anything huge or fantastical, just about the intimate experience of writing itself.

And on a date, that's the sort of thread you could easily lead somewhere sexual.

Think of deep diving as a series of layers.

The first layer is the obvious things about her, that a lot of people know as information about her. E.g., she's a writer. Everyone she knows knows that.

Deep diving is moving past the first layer to get to the deeper layer.

- Why does she like writing?
- What is the experience of writing like for her?
- What are the things she secretly wants to write about that she hasn't found the opportunity to yet?

These are things that nobody knows about her, and other people are either not interested in her enough to ask her, or don't know how to. Yet they have a profound meaning to her, in her experience of her own life and identity.

When she tells you these things, she feels closer to you, and more intimate with you, than to those other people who only know the fact that she's a writer.
 

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In my opinion, this is more so for the date, where sexual escalation comes in to resolve the tension of being with a strange man.

During the initial approach, you need to relate more of yourself so that she is comfortable enough to come on the date with you. It's a short interaction and your main goal is to make it easy for her to say "yes" to the date. Too much tension creates anxiety, which, when you are no longer with her, you cannot manage.

You also don't have a lot of time on the approach to create any real sense of mystery about yourself. Remember mystery is not just created by what is unknown, but also by how what is known creates curiosity. Where did you make her curious about you?



You did ask about her dream project, but you never vibed with her over the experience of writing, which is something that you as a writer could easily articulate.

E.g.

You: "what do you most like about writing?"
Her: "Just creating my own world with interesting characters."
You: "So when you're writing, time slips away, you forget about everything and the only thing that exists is the world you're writing about."
Her: "Yeah!"
You: "I feel that way sometimes, especially when I'm writing something I deeply relate to myself."

This is vibing. It's not about anything huge or fantastical, just about the intimate experience of writing itself.

And on a date, that's the sort of thread you could easily lead somewhere sexual.

Think of deep diving as a series of layers.

The first layer is the obvious things about her, that a lot of people know as information about her. E.g., she's a writer. Everyone she knows knows that.

Deep diving is moving past the first layer to get to the deeper layer.

- Why does she like writing?
- What is the experience of writing like for her?
- What are the things she secretly wants to write about that she hasn't found the opportunity to yet?

These are things that nobody knows about her, and other people are either not interested in her enough to ask her, or don't know how to. Yet they have a profound meaning to her, in her experience of her own life and identity.

When she tells you these things, she feels closer to you, and more intimate with you, than to those other people who only know the fact that she's a writer.
Okay, got it.

Yeah i see it now, I had been asking these deep diving questions just for the sale of asling them like a checklist rather drawing out the emotions like you did.

will start fixing these now. Thanks for the poitners Will! These were great!
 

Arnav

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Try shortening the initial interaction and don't build too much of a connection.
Try shortening the initial interaction and don't build too much of a connection.
I tried the shorter interactions james, that didnt work.

Girls would feel lack of comfort and say they couldnt give their number to someone they just met.
Longer 10-15 min interactions had better responses.

I guess my conversation or flirting isnt sharp enough to create that connection in a shorter time.
 

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I tried the shorter interactions james, that didnt work.

Girls would feel lack of comfort and say they couldnt give their number to someone they just met.
Longer 10-15 min interactions had better responses.

I guess my conversation or flirting isnt sharp enough to create that connection in a shorter time.

In my experience, shorter interactions can work very well, as long as:

- You make a strong first impression - style, fundamentals on point.
- You give her a sense that you have somewhere to go but you'd like to spend more time when you are free.

In this case it's not so much about connection as creating an easy way for her to meet up later with a cool guy and maybe hit it off.

I typically go for this in busy settings or when she's rushing around. When I meet her in a park or going for a walk or something, I'll go for a longer interaction with more of a connection.
 

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here is the field report of the interactino with the girl , I checked all major points I think - touch, qualification, compliacne, ask on a high point , end the interaction well.





here is the texting
=================
icebreaker text

arnav: Was lovely meeting you today :) ~arnav
Monica: Same here!✨

1 day later
----------------
arnva: Hey monica

Hope your day’s been full of good ideas and creative sparks that make writing fun. ( consideration for her)

I had a good shopping day yesterday, sometimes I swear I want to raid the entire store if they let me. ( new info about me)

Anyways, when do you get some free time? We should catch up and meet one of these days. ( schedule schedule check and date ask )

no response from her it's been 2 days.

====================

the same thing has been happening over and over to me, good conversation, girl is warm , smiling I get compliance qualification, agrees to meeting, warm response to ice-breaker
then dodges date proposal or doesn't respond the next days

seems like the warmth and conneciton on the approach doesn't carry over to the next day and cools off entirely.

how do I fix this?
as you can see the way you are texting does not work... If i am you i would follow a structure format...... open>minimally banter/flirt/>get her to respond, to respond, interact and invest a little, soft close>hard close...

vs look what you did


you open> she responded the opener> and you went into a closing pitch.... that will never work nothing to do with the cooling off effect (which is real, we call it state change)... that is not your issue...

 

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Oh yeah I missed that, as @Skills pointed out going straight to the close right after the icebreaker is not a good idea!
 

Arnav

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Oh yeah I missed that, as @Skills pointed out going straight to the close right after the icebreaker is not a good idea!
Actually I was using chase's texting format

Text 1
Ice brekaer text within 4 hours

Text 2
Date proposal text
-consideration for her
-new info about you
-ask her general availability and schedule check

What's the diff bw the texting format of (Chase) vs that of (Skills.)

Is the one by chase mire suited where you have much stronger in person game and fundamentals & skills more to carry over the connection over the next few days?
 

Arnav

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as you can see the way you are texting does not work... If i am you i would follow a structure format...... open>minimally banter/flirt/>get her to respond, to respond, interact and invest a little, soft close>hard close...

vs look what you did


you open> she responded the opener> and you went into a closing pitch.... that will never work nothing to do with the cooling off effect (which is real, we call it state change)... that is not your issue...

Okay thanks for the guide skills, this great. Will try it in my next approach.
 

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Actually I was using chase's texting format

Text 1
Ice brekaer text within 4 hours

Text 2
Date proposal text
-consideration for her
-new info about you
-ask her general availability and schedule check

What's the diff bw the texting format of (Chase) vs that of (Skills.)

Is the one by chase mire suited where you have much stronger in person game and fundamentals & skills more to carry over the connection over the next few days?
don't put people on the spot, just try it, and understand the post i linked, and see if it works for you... Also i am not a big fan of " forcing rapport" like your monologue... Read this for context:

 
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Arnav

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don't put people on the spot, just try it, and understand the post i linked, and see if it works for you... Also i am not a big fan of " forcing rapport" like your monologue... Read this for context:

okay will read this guide and try these poitners. Thanks a lot!
 
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