The Time machine seducers

[Skills]

This is a phenomenon rarely discuss in the community, only some guys can tell (have to be very experience legit guys to be able to see this that ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE GAMING).....

You have former gurus, posters, guys good with women and help and influence multiple guys get laid, for _______________ since game is not really sustainable for most of the normal human beings or population, they stop gaming, usually to focus on their family, biz, girlfriend, substance abuse or cause they had an spiritual awakening.... They re-appear in the community and they are STUCK IN THE PAST.... The saddest example as we all know is mystery, i was going to say rollo tomassi (but i won't put in the same sentence of most of the guys i am referring cause HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A KJ WITH 40 LAY COUNT, and i even doubt that 40 claim)..... this is what happens:

- some guys are going to be stuck in 2007 (mystery)

- Some in 2013 etc..

- some will get the reality distortion i talk about here


Guys pick up and game is not sustainable, player lifestyle is not sustainable (chase somehwere has an article on this if you want to link), you have some strange weirdos like me, but that is not the normal populations most seducers won't make it pass 35 assuming they got here as teens...Also i think is because my niche is dance floor game, i don't do drugs so i have some stuff that works in my advantage (no marriage/no kids) cold approach is taxing after years... The older guys in the community are guys that have peter pan syndrome cause they were in marriages or ltr, or do this for living... hobbiest is almost rare and impossible there is no shame in that.... just making this point..

The problem is that they look horrible when they post how to beep when nobody uses beepers get it!

Please don't mention names, but to those dudes, go out, start gaming, then post, cause is harmful to impressionable people that don't know better....

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Underrated post

 

[Beck Bass]

player lifestyle is not sustainable (chase somehwere has an article on this if you want to link), you have some strange weirdos like me, but that is not the normal populations most seducers won't make it pass 35 assuming they got here as teens... The older guys in the community are guys that have peter pan syndrome cause they were in marriages or ltr, or do this for living... hobbiest is almost rare and impossible there is no shame in that.... just making this point..

Yeah that's true, it's all a lot of effort and it takes a lot of time, that I think the biggest reason most guys just suck, they are not willing to put in the time (or they might be completely deillusional and have a distorted world view... but maybe deep inside they know they would have to put a lot of effort and just make up excuses to protect their little ego)

 

[trashKENNUT]

Yeah that's true, it's all a lot of effort and it takes a lot of time, that I think the biggest reason most guys just suck, they are not willing to put in the time (or they might be completely deillusional and have a distorted world view... but maybe deep inside they know they would have to put a lot of effort and just make up excuses to protect their little ego)

Even if you intermediate, it will take some time to reach your ideal goal.

My concern and I hope that Girlschase priority is build a system of processes that new PUA customers can build cold approach (direct sales) and sales funnel (culture war), simultaneously.

Most of us will fail after 40. As in less girls coming in and other Asian females will manipulate because it is a Warfare on sexual market value. My Asian females on Tiktok have already done this. Conscious or unconscious, the act is there. It's about Power.

The only detterence is building culture. (Credits: Tim Pool)

Leonardo DiCaprio uses climate change. Don't be surprised if Zac post people picture of China flag on my Instagram. I need to do it for the dating sales funnel! Even though in real life, I'm pretty normal guy.

z@c+

 

[robotron]

- some guys are going to be stuck in 2007 (mystery)

What do you think of A2daMIR?

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On 2/2/06 5:45:00 AM, putnik wrote:
>Hey man... I'd like to ask you
>one thing...
>
>First I'll write some things
>about me. I'm not natural.
>Almost everything I know I
>learned from this site. I made
>a huge trip during one and a
>half year in the community.
>And I'm not satisfied yet. I
>can pull almost every time I
>go out. And I have tons of
>pussies right now. (Even
>though I'm not sure will it
>last forever, but I hope )
>Thing is that most girls I
>pull are 7s or 8s. I have
>never pulled a 9 or 10 in my
>life. But I'm strongly believe
>that I WILL one of these days.
>
>I'm talking about TOP club
>bitches, dancers, strippers
>and gold diggers(btw. I have
>no money, but I think I could
>pull them), etc... you get
>me...
>
>I've red some of your LRs, and
>you give very little
>information on how you
>actually approach them, or
>what do you do before
>approach(more important)...
>Can you write something about
>your strategy with these kind
>of women. If I could get a
>day2 or find myself in their
>apartments I'm sure that the
>deal would be done, but I have
>hard times approaching them...
>No, no...I can approach but
>they usually have big bitch
>shields and negs somehow are
>not working good enough.
>
>thx in adv.

Well not to take anything away from anybody's game, i think you must be have
above average looks in order to score with those top 9 and 10s.... I know Style
isnt good looking at all and he banged a pornstar, but those things dont happen
everyday.... You have to think about it this way, HB9s and HB10s can get any
guy in the club, so the club is a dik buffet for her, so they are very shallow,
they first try to go for good looking guys...

Now since all the goodlooking guys dont have the balls to approach her, she
then has the option to only pick and choose from the guys that approach her....

Now once she has guys approaching her, she then starts to judge whichone is
good fer her, ( and trust me the girls can smell fakes very fast), so the key
points are not to let them know you find them attractive ( im sure you heard
this alot), and never loose your frame...
Recently i laid a dancer (LR:HBDancer) and everytime i see her i sort of try to
interrogate her and ask her how her night was, an asking her about the guys and
the reasons she found someone attractive or the reason she didnt like
someone...NOw some points that come up alot is the fact the she hates when guys
look at her for too long and then try to approach, she says it sort of freaks
her out when a guy has to look at her for 10-15 minutes and then coming up to
her, so the first tip is to completely ignore those HBs, cuz trust me, tehy
arent paying attention to the guys that are paying attention to them, rather
they are paying attention to guys THAT ARE NOT paying attention to them...,
Never forget the fact that the UNQUE PERSON ALWAYS STANDS OUT...listen to this:

one day the chief of staff goes to the president and says : " MR President we
want to strike Afghanestan, kill 100,000 Afghans and one blonde.", and the
president replies " Why a blonde?"

You get my point? The unique person always stands out, your paying attention to
her by not paying attention to her...

Ok so now that you approach her, the key is to prove to her you dont want her
for her looks ( cuz she already knows that), and dont come off cocky at
first..there is a difference between being confident and cocky.
Now the next part is hard to explain, but every PUA out there know when they
have a set hooked or not, i mean there are some IOI to show she is hooked, but
im personally very good at it...its like a football quarterback reading a
defense coverage, it only comes from experience....for example you can watch
all teh game tapes in the world you want, but it takes experience to feel a
blitz coming...
ONLY AFTER you have her hooked is when you can start going cocky on her ass....
I've found that the best way to a womans pants in through laughter... Everyone
wants to have fun, think about all the sitcoms and comedy series on TVs, people
are addicted to laughter...And besides, i think laughter is the best way to
create rapport, and an even better way of turning a ONS to a LTR FB...These top
bitches have been offered anything, i hear from them that they get offered
MONY, DRUGS, VCATION TRIPS TO ACT AS SOME RICH DUDES GF...etc. So she is used
to being treated as a piece of ass and just an object of entertainment, what
you have to do is to show her your talking to her as a person, and try to make
her laugh....Honestly i duuno how i wouldve talked to girls if i didnt have my
good sense of humor and quick wit....

Its all about balancing...i mean you have to act as if your not interested in
her body and sexually, but at the same time you dont wanna send the message
that your either gay or you really dont want her....but any such statement
should ONLY COME AFTER YOU THINK SHE IS HOOKED....3 things have helped me hook
girls: MY CONFIDENCE, MY SENSE OF HUMOR, MY ABILITY TO CREATE CURIOSITY IN A
CHICK...
and the curiosity factor can be as stupid as telling her : hey u know what they
say about girls in clubs right?...chicks wanna know everything, specially these
HBs, cuz most of these top HBs love showing off their beauty and sexiness at
clubs, so they are usually club girls, and they wanna know what people say
about girls in teh clubs....so if you keep busting her balls, she will come
back for an answer...but i cant stress enough how important BL is for cases
like these....

On the other hand, these chicks have very high ego, and you cant blame
them...these girls make 500-600 $ just cuz of their looks on a regular night,
so why would they wanna suck your dick for free?? because you will create a
challenge for her... Your confidence is her challenge,
the fact that you see a hot piece of ass in front you and treat her like a gy
friend of yours takes alot of inner game, and it comes from experience... I'll
admit it, i was always natural and good, but i've had my share of blowouts for
reasons of escalating to fast, complimenting too fast, not enough rapport....
and the thing that i learned is to start thinking with my big head instead of
the lil head....



now there are some things such as social proof that helps you stand out ( and
oh btw most of these HB9s and 10s dont like peacocks, and im not a big fan of
it myself...i mean you can dress stylish and stand out, you dont need lights
and blinkers and enormous boots or hats to stand out)
Some other things that help is the way you look. Well i think my physique has
to do alot with me scoring top girls ( bartenders,dancers, strippers, and once
even a pornstar( which i stil have to do a fr on)), but my physique doesnt take
anything away from my game...think of it as an icing on the cake....

 

[Skills]

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On 2/2/06 5:45:00 AM, putnik wrote:
>Hey man... I'd like to ask you
>one thing...
>
>First I'll write some things
>about me. I'm not natural.
>Almost everything I know I
>learned from this site. I made
>a huge trip during one and a
>half year in the community.
>And I'm not satisfied yet. I
>can pull almost every time I
>go out. And I have tons of
>pussies right now. (Even
>though I'm not sure will it
>last forever, but I hope )
>Thing is that most girls I
>pull are 7s or 8s. I have
>never pulled a 9 or 10 in my
>life. But I'm strongly believe
>that I WILL one of these days.
>
>I'm talking about TOP club
>bitches, dancers, strippers
>and gold diggers(btw. I have
>no money, but I think I could
>pull them), etc... you get
>me...
>
>I've red some of your LRs, and
>you give very little
>information on how you
>actually approach them, or
>what do you do before
>approach(more important)...
>Can you write something about
>your strategy with these kind
>of women. If I could get a
>day2 or find myself in their
>apartments I'm sure that the
>deal would be done, but I have
>hard times approaching them...
>No, no...I can approach but
>they usually have big bitch
>shields and negs somehow are
>not working good enough.
>
>thx in adv.

Well not to take anything away from anybody's game, i think you must be have
above average looks in order to score with those top 9 and 10s.... I know Style
isnt good looking at all and he banged a pornstar, but those things dont happen
everyday.... You have to think about it this way, HB9s and HB10s can get any
guy in the club, so the club is a dik buffet for her, so they are very shallow,
they first try to go for good looking guys...

Now since all the goodlooking guys dont have the balls to approach her, she
then has the option to only pick and choose from the guys that approach her....

Now once she has guys approaching her, she then starts to judge whichone is
good fer her, ( and trust me the girls can smell fakes very fast), so the key
points are not to let them know you find them attractive ( im sure you heard
this alot), and never loose your frame...
Recently i laid a dancer (LR:HBDancer) and everytime i see her i sort of try to
interrogate her and ask her how her night was, an asking her about the guys and
the reasons she found someone attractive or the reason she didnt like
someone...NOw some points that come up alot is the fact the she hates when guys
look at her for too long and then try to approach, she says it sort of freaks
her out when a guy has to look at her for 10-15 minutes and then coming up to
her, so the first tip is to completely ignore those HBs, cuz trust me, tehy
arent paying attention to the guys that are paying attention to them, rather
they are paying attention to guys THAT ARE NOT paying attention to them...,
Never forget the fact that the UNQUE PERSON ALWAYS STANDS OUT...listen to this:

one day the chief of staff goes to the president and says : " MR President we
want to strike Afghanestan, kill 100,000 Afghans and one blonde.", and the
president replies " Why a blonde?"

You get my point? The unique person always stands out, your paying attention to
her by not paying attention to her...

Ok so now that you approach her, the key is to prove to her you dont want her
for her looks ( cuz she already knows that), and dont come off cocky at
first..there is a difference between being confident and cocky.
Now the next part is hard to explain, but every PUA out there know when they
have a set hooked or not, i mean there are some IOI to show she is hooked, but
im personally very good at it...its like a football quarterback reading a
defense coverage, it only comes from experience....for example you can watch
all teh game tapes in the world you want, but it takes experience to feel a
blitz coming...
ONLY AFTER you have her hooked is when you can start going cocky on her ass....
I've found that the best way to a womans pants in through laughter... Everyone
wants to have fun, think about all the sitcoms and comedy series on TVs, people
are addicted to laughter...And besides, i think laughter is the best way to
create rapport, and an even better way of turning a ONS to a LTR FB...These top
bitches have been offered anything, i hear from them that they get offered
MONY, DRUGS, VCATION TRIPS TO ACT AS SOME RICH DUDES GF...etc. So she is used
to being treated as a piece of ass and just an object of entertainment, what
you have to do is to show her your talking to her as a person, and try to make
her laugh....Honestly i duuno how i wouldve talked to girls if i didnt have my
good sense of humor and quick wit....

Its all about balancing...i mean you have to act as if your not interested in
her body and sexually, but at the same time you dont wanna send the message
that your either gay or you really dont want her....but any such statement
should ONLY COME AFTER YOU THINK SHE IS HOOKED....3 things have helped me hook
girls: MY CONFIDENCE, MY SENSE OF HUMOR, MY ABILITY TO CREATE CURIOSITY IN A
CHICK...
and the curiosity factor can be as stupid as telling her : hey u know what they
say about girls in clubs right?...chicks wanna know everything, specially these
HBs, cuz most of these top HBs love showing off their beauty and sexiness at
clubs, so they are usually club girls, and they wanna know what people say
about girls in teh clubs....so if you keep busting her balls, she will come
back for an answer...but i cant stress enough how important BL is for cases
like these....

On the other hand, these chicks have very high ego, and you cant blame
them...these girls make 500-600 $ just cuz of their looks on a regular night,
so why would they wanna suck your dick for free?? because you will create a
challenge for her... Your confidence is her challenge,
the fact that you see a hot piece of ass in front you and treat her like a gy
friend of yours takes alot of inner game, and it comes from experience... I'll
admit it, i was always natural and good, but i've had my share of blowouts for
reasons of escalating to fast, complimenting too fast, not enough rapport....
and the thing that i learned is to start thinking with my big head instead of
the lil head....



now there are some things such as social proof that helps you stand out ( and
oh btw most of these HB9s and 10s dont like peacocks, and im not a big fan of
it myself...i mean you can dress stylish and stand out, you dont need lights
and blinkers and enormous boots or hats to stand out)
Some other things that help is the way you look. Well i think my physique has
to do alot with me scoring top girls ( bartenders,dancers, strippers, and once
even a pornstar( which i stil have to do a fr on)), but my physique doesnt take
anything away from my game...think of it as an icing on the cake....

This was written 2006 ... and is a derrail of this post...

 

[robotron]

This was written 2006 ... and is a derrail of this post...

Wanted to know if advice still stands today. Sorry.

 

[Skills]

Wanted to know if advice still stands today. Sorry

Well he is talking very basic stuff yeah some of it applies still today..

 

[Beck Bass]

What do you think of A2daMIR?

I think even @Chase mentioned him once on an article I believe, wasn't he the preopening guy? I think he had some solid game and a bunch of people learned from him. No idea where he's nowadays though...

 

[Skills]

I think even @Chase mentioned him once on an article I believe, wasn't he the preopening guy? I think he had some solid game and a bunch of people learned from him. No idea where he's nowadays though...

. the quote from him by @robotron has some basic stuff mix with a bit of kj, but i think he is projecting based on his experience as a natural...he is a natural i dont find his stuff necesary practical .....

Edit. the dude that introduce gm is Nathan not this dude.... i confused guys...

 

[Chad Tyrone]

Game ain't never a fad.Whoa! Having guys around who have been doing this 20+ years.And they ain't stopping.lol.What's really the DRIVE in them(us)?Shit's beyond extrinsic ...it's deeply intrinsic...an urge to keep plowing on.A call to Mastery...maybe their purpose.Damn.There's more to this and I can't quite wrap my mind around it.I'm 5.5 years in.lmao.
For those almost hitting their twenties in game,do u ever feel there's still more ground to cover?

 

[Skills]

Game ain't never a fad.Whoa! Having guys around who have been doing this 20+ years.And they ain't stopping.lol.What's really the DRIVE in them(us)?Shit's beyond extrinsic ...it's deeply intrinsic...an urge to keep plowing on.A call to Mastery...maybe their purpose.Damn.There's more to this and I can't quite wrap my mind around it.I'm 5.5 years in.lmao.
For those almost hitting their twenties in game,do u ever feel there's still more ground to cover?

Game seducing women has been around since men and women were created, though pua was a fad, now back to kind of underground as it started... there is no 20 years plus seducer if you read the post is not sustainable, rare exeptions like me... what you willl have plus 35 is many will get burned or bored and settle down, i notice a lot of dudes dont make it eve 5 years now a days,(in my privete group 3 retire one on the way out), others will focus on other important life priorities.... a lot will quit and come back after break ups, or after other life priorities were handle... your skills will not really change much after you hit certain meet to lay ratio... what i found interesting is the adaptation periods and twicks on different generations, for example old gs did not have the challenges of the attention spam digital media, texting and apps etc...

 

[Chad Tyrone]

Game seducing women has been around since men and women were created, though pua was a fad, now back to kind of underground as it started... there is no 20 years plus seducer if you read the post is not sustainable, rare exeptions like me... what you willl have plus 35 is many will get burned or bored and settle down, i notice a lot of dudes dont make it eve 5 years now a days,(in my privete group 3 retire one on the way out), others will focus on other important life priorities.... a lot will quit and come back after break ups, or after other life priorities were handle... your skills will not really change much after you hit certain meet to lay ratio... what i found interesting is the adaptation periods and twicks on different generations, for example old gs did not have the challenges of the attention spam digital media, texting and apps etc...

So say at most 20,right?
Yeah maybe everything great must come to an end*shrug*
Who cares, anyway?If u got one area of ur life handled why not handle the others.People may tend to settle down partly due to societal conditions or seduction becomes lackluster.Been there,done that.What's more(blaize-ry).
Haha the OGs may be luddites.lol.People may refuse change at times and stick to old school.
I kinda dig Sharpe's old school game.its pretty sic.He gives it to girls not the other way round.

But " old-schoolers" are more of MINIMALISM .I believe