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Rakehell

Cro-Magnon Man
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The reason I'm getting a lot of flak from you and your acolytes is because you have this image in your head of what a virgin is supposed to look like, talk like, think like and behave like.
You seem like a pretty smart guy, I’ve actually been in a similar situation. I don’t think anyone (atleast not me) is looking over the fact that you know how to conduct yourself in the beginning stages of a seduction. Atleast in your pov.

We get it. Defending that point so ardently is overlooking the rest of what everybody else is saying.
Bottom line is until you get these girls to do something with you, it’s all talk. It’s the equivalent of knowing how to get open but never taking the shot.

How do you know you’re even open? How do you know you would make it?

It’s an unknown. You can hypothesize what would happen when you branch out into that new territory based on what you’ve read, but until you do it all your points leading up to it are moot.
 

Mr Mistah

Space Monkey
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I don’t think anyone (atleast not me) is looking over the fact that you know how to conduct yourself in the beginning stages of a seduction.
Well it sure as hell doesnt feel like it.

Defending that point so ardently is overlooking the rest of what everybody else is saying.
Okay but what exactly is everybody saying because I've heard about 5 different things now.

If I could just get a direct answer to this question I will be out of here.
until you get these girls to do something with you
Forgive me for getting heated and talking out of turn earlier but this is happening because 99% of this chat firmly believes that I havent done shit with girls when in real sense I have covered all of the bases up to the escalating and laying point.

Everything in between I have covered.

How do I know this?

Because I didnt start this thread saying how I have problems flirting or doing sex talk or pulling back home.

I came in saying that whenever I have a girl isolated with me and ready to go I get overcome by a strong feeling of yuck even when 2 seconds before I was feeling ecstatic about being with a girl of my tastes.

Please note that I am not saying I start feeling AFRAID.
I am saying I feel DISGUST and the need to get out of there ASAP.

When I relay this commenters then tell me that no you are not disgusted you are AFRAID OF REJECTION.

Man, I am just human and the frustration of being heard but not listened to really drives me on edge.
 

Skills

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Well it sure as hell doesnt feel like it.


Okay but what exactly is everybody saying because I've heard about 5 different things now.

If I could just get a direct answer to this question I will be out of here.

Forgive me for getting heated and talking out of turn earlier but this is happening because 99% of this chat firmly believes that I havent done shit with girls when in real sense I have covered all of the bases up to the escalating and laying point.

Everything in between I have covered.

How do I know this?

Because I didnt start this thread saying how I have problems flirting or doing sex talk or pulling back home.

I came in saying that whenever I have a girl isolated with me and ready to go I get overcome by a strong feeling of yuck even when 2 seconds before I was feeling ecstatic about being with a girl of my tastes.

Please note that I am not saying I start feeling AFRAID.
I am saying I feel DISGUST and the need to get out of there ASAP.

When I relay this commenters then tell me that no you are not disgusted you are AFRAID OF REJECTION.

Man, I am just human and the frustration of being heard but not listened to really drives me on edge.
Op it may be like i told u sexual anxiety, get the book sex god author rose
 

Mr Mistah

Space Monkey
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Rejection:

One night i was at a noisy club with friends.

At the darkest corner of the club was this dance circle where this butterface chick with hands down the sexiest body I have ever seen in my life was the main attraction.

She had on one of those bodycon skirts that really shaped her 8 figure.

She was the main attraction in the whole club because of her banging body, free spirited energy and the fact that she was freely grinding on dudes indiscriminately.

I loved the hype on that side of the club so I thought wow let me get in on that so i went made friends with some cool guys on that end then hopped behind the thick chick to grind whenever the opening came.

But what did she do?
Look back at my face from her bent over position and immediately stood up.

No cigar.

She didnt want to dance with me.
I felt a little stung but decided to move along.

This was a petty rejection and honestly it didnt really mean much aside from the slight sting.

But then I stopped dead in my tracks and thought to myself wait why bow out so fast. Try persisting.

So I did.

Danced. Danced. Then when the opening came I tried getting behind her again to grind on her.

Except that this time when she saw me she literally sat down on a chair that was a few steps from her.

that small voice in my head told me "Dont fold yet. Persist!"
So i made strong sexy eye contact, a sexy smile and extended my hand for her to take without saying a single word. I let my body do the talking.

How did she respond?
She pushed my hands away aggressively, crossed her arms tight, leaned back ALL the way into her sit and looked away with a sour look on her face.

Three seconds ago this chick had been ecstatically dancing with literally EVERY other dude in the vicinity except ME. All i got from her was the most sour face ive seen in my life.

I walked away trying to act all nonchalant but that shit had done a no. on my esteem i wont lie.

Now THAT was a Rejection. Probably the harshest one I've ever experienced.

Minutes later one of the dudes we had been dancing in a circle with who i had befriended came to my shoulder to talk.

Told me he had asked the chick why she danced with everyone else and not me and she said that i looked like her ex.

Apparently she had just gotten her heart broken and was at the club hoeing the pain away.

I heard that and everything clicked and my beaten posture immediately straightened.

The 😞 on my face turned into a 😄
That short encounter imprinted in me the importance of not taking rejection personally quite frankly I have never been upset about girls not feeling me ever since.

I literally just move on.
I have experienced milder forms of rejection and none of them get to me.

The point of this anecdote is to show you why I find the assertions I am afraid that a girl that I have wound up into a submissive subdued state is going to reject me kind of odd.

This is where Im coming from guys.

Indeed I COULD be wrong but from Where Im at I genuinely unable to see how unless you guys mean that this fear is deep in my subconcious.
 

Mr Mistah

Space Monkey
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Op it may be like i told u sexual anxiety, get the book sex god author rose
I have read it.

Please expound on what you mean by this.

Is it that I am subconciously scared of perfoming badly in bed?
 

Skills

Tribal Elder
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I have read it.

Please expound on what you mean by this.

Is it that I am subconciously scared of perfoming badly in bed?
Correct in the subconcious and is better to quit at the high, some guys get of on the seduction and attraction and dont care much about the sex, julian rsd was like this, i have experience this too... i know is frustrating, sometimes people write a post you get 50 diagnosis, you get more frustrated and defensive feeling attacked etc... dont look at it that way is hard to communicate in writting... this is why they are in courage you to push for the full dick in pussy seduction..
 
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