This makes no sense

[Sub-Zero]

Hey guys, im having a big problem that is pissing me off. Im at the point now where girls are literally telling me they like me, chasing me, and want to fuck me. I keep it chill and i flirt letting them know i want to fuck too, but i am cool with it.

Funny thing is these girls will not come to my crib. I don't get it. They say all of this and won't come over. They act like they never said they wanted to fuck. They just act like it never happened and want to go out and not go to the crib because they say they don't want to be indoors and want to do something. They even try to act like they never said they wanted to fuck even when i call them out on it. Wtf!!!!!!!

1.Why would i take a girl out if she says she wants to fuck? It's like moving backwards.

2.Why do girls say they want to fuck and chase me, but when it comes time to come over they say no and don't want to stay inside and want to do something else?

3.Should I cut girls off as soon as they say they don't want to come over and want to do something else after they told me they wanted to fuck?

4.How can i fuck these girls? Should i fuck em somewhere else?

 

[Smith]

Emotion. Not logic brother. Even if some girls are DTF, you still need to make them feel the emotion.
If you are inviting these girls straight home without taking them out for a drink or something, then it's probably going to make them feel too easy and judged.
Calling them out on it will make it worst because you're now arguing it from a logical point of view. Never argue with a woman about not having sex. It's counter-productive.
Follow the process. Take her out, make her feel sexy and invite her home.

 

[slinky71]

You can always lure her home with some excuses. They'll know what it is about. You may say 'let's watch a movie' which is a classic, or 'have some shots' after a party, and many many other excuses.. After, kiss her before the 10 mins deadline, escalate and escalate, if they put up resistance, back off a little and try again. And remember that it's human nature, they want to complete it aka have sex.. A great semi-analogy is this, when you're sitting on the computer and idea of watching porn comes into your mind. You just happen to open a new tab and start to watch some. And eventually touch your dick too. Can you stop after? How easy would it be? You'd want to go all the way. That's true for women too. If you persist -of course a real no is a real no- they'll want to complete it too. It's unusual to take the reins in your hand first because we're brainwashed into being a society which the man should be mild, and wait, and wait and wait..

 

[Adam101]

You're being too direct about it. You're calling attention to the fact that they are just coming over for sex which is a complete turn off. No matter how sexually liberated a woman may be not a single one wants their vagina to be the only thing about them that is valued, which is what you are communicating. Plus girls cannot be culpable in their own seduction. Sex has to "just happen" for them so that they can remain blameless. Instead of inviting them over for sex, like slinky said invite them over for a movie or something else. Any activity where you are just hanging will do. Girls implicitly know what the deal is so you don't have to state it outright. It seems a lot of guys forget the "friends" part of friends with benefits and there's a reason it's the first word in the term. Communicate that you want to spend time with them, and keep the how you want to to yourself. Best of luck.

 

[Rhaegar]

Emotion. Not logic brother. Even if some girls are DTF, you still need to make them feel the emotion.
If you are inviting these girls straight home without taking them out for a drink or something, then it's probably going to make them feel too easy and judged.
Calling them out on it will make it worst because you're now arguing it from a logical point of view. Never argue with a woman about not having sex. It's counter-productive.
Follow the process. Take her out, make her feel sexy and invite her home.

You are looking at it from your shoes, look at it from her shoes. You basically make them feel like whores.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Emotion. Not logic brother. Even if some girls are DTF, you still need to make them feel the emotion.
If you are inviting these girls straight home without taking them out for a drink or something, then it's probably going to make them feel too easy and judged.
Calling them out on it will make it worst because you're now arguing it from a logical point of view. Never argue with a woman about not having sex. It's counter-productive.
Follow the process. Take her out, make her feel sexy and invite her home.

Got you bro, but shit i just want her to get straight to the crib, fuck a date. If i have to i will though. Thanks.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You can always lure her home with some excuses. They'll know what it is about. You may say 'let's watch a movie' which is a classic, or 'have some shots' after a party, and many many other excuses.. After, kiss her before the 10 mins deadline, escalate and escalate, if they put up resistance, back off a little and try again. And remember that it's human nature, they want to complete it aka have sex.. A great semi-analogy is this, when you're sitting on the computer and idea of watching porn comes into your mind. You just happen to open a new tab and start to watch some. And eventually touch your dick too. Can you stop after? How easy would it be? You'd want to go all the way. That's true for women too. If you persist -of course a real no is a real no- they'll want to complete it too. It's unusual to take the reins in your hand first because we're brainwashed into being a society which the man should be mild, and wait, and wait and wait..

Bro, when i say shit like that they always say im tryna fuck them on the low. They try to put on a front. Thanks.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You're being too direct about it. You're calling attention to the fact that they are just coming over for sex which is a complete turn off. No matter how sexually liberated a woman may be not a single one wants their vagina to be the only thing about them that is valued, which is what you are communicating. Plus girls cannot be culpable in their own seduction. Sex has to "just happen" for them so that they can remain blameless. Instead of inviting them over for sex, like slinky said invite them over for a movie or something else. Any activity where you are just hanging will do. Girls implicitly know what the deal is so you don't have to state it outright. It seems a lot of guys forget the "friends" part of friends with benefits and there's a reason it's the first word in the term. Communicate that you want to spend time with them, and keep the how you want to to yourself. Best of luck.

Yeah, i said i wanna chill at the crib and talk. She was hella direct with me, telling me she wanted to fuck before i said i was even attracted to her. Then she fucking fronts and makes it look like im the one who said all this shit. Thanks.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Emotion. Not logic brother. Even if some girls are DTF, you still need to make them feel the emotion.
If you are inviting these girls straight home without taking them out for a drink or something, then it's probably going to make them feel too easy and judged.
Calling them out on it will make it worst because you're now arguing it from a logical point of view. Never argue with a woman about not having sex. It's counter-productive.
Follow the process. Take her out, make her feel sexy and invite her home.

You are looking at it from your shoes, look at it from her shoes. You basically make them feel like whores.

You think so? If a girl tells me she wants to fuck, why would i not invite her straight to the crib? Going on a date can ruin my chances if i say the wrong thing or whatever. Aren't we supposed to move fast? Isn't getting her straight to the crib to fuck fast?
Why do girls play so many games! Thanks.

 

[Troy]

They even try to act like they never said they wanted to fuck even when i call them out on it. Wtf!!!!!!!

1.Why would i take a girl out if she says she wants to fuck? It's like moving backwards.

2.Why do girls say they want to fuck and chase me, but when it comes time to come over they say no and don't want to stay inside and want to do something else?

3.Should I cut girls off as soon as they say they don't want to come over and want to do something else after they told me they wanted to fuck?

Think about it from the girls perspective. She feels slutty if she would just come over like that. Unless she is some prostitute that you will pay it ain't going to happen. If you call a girl out on it that you want to fuck her, she will change her mind even if she wanted it to happen. Don't call a girl out on what she says.

I suggest you go out and meet the girl in town. Chat a bit and get her to feel good. If she feels awkward she is going to want the date to end early. Get her to laugh, touch you and invest in you before getting her following you home. And keep that vibe going all the way into the bedroom. If it feels fun then she wont want the date to end until she has been hung up on your branch. Make her mound it like she is climbing a coconut tree.

You think so? If a girl tells me she wants to fuck, why would i not invite her straight to the crib? Going on a date can ruin my chances if i say the wrong thing or whatever. Aren't we supposed to move fast? Isn't getting her straight to the crib to fuck fast?
Why do girls play so many games! Thanks.

Anywhere in the game there is always a posibillity of ruining your chances. I can't tell you why not to invite a girl to your crib if she says she wants to fuck ( If I don't got experience in something I keep my mouth shut ). However what I can tell you is there is a limit to moving too fast. Don't think in extremes when advice is given. When the authors of this site say move fast they don't mean to jump essential steps. For example:

Approaching a girl on the street:

Guy: (opening girl) Hey come with me. Lets go on a adventure. I have a nice ceiling at home.

Girl: What the fuck? Do I know you?

Guy: No but I thought you were cute and I had to say hi. Do you want to go out some time?

I know you wouldn't do something like that example above. The point is that the guy above skipped out so many steps and he was moving WAY TOO FAST
A better way of thinking about moving fast is being dominant while moving as fast as the girl will go. You will still lead, you will still be sexy, and you will still act before escalation windows close. Do those stuff and it will get you closer to being laid.


Troy