Threesome with a lesbian couple from day game?

[ThePhoenix]

The other day, I opened a pair of girls in a big box store who turned out to be a couple. Well, actually, I was going for the Afro-Caribbean one, who briefly separated and gave me a possible approach invitation (albeit extremely ambiguous) which I used to open her, and then she brought the other one, Habesha (Ethiopian or Eritrean), into the interaction briefly. (My opener amused her so greatly she wanted me to repeat the question to the other girl.)

I will probably put up a full FR at some later point, but to summarize: The Afro-Caribbean one was fairly friendly, for instance, asking my name before I even asked hers. The Habesha one was personable but left the interaction quickly, leaving me back with the Afro-Caribbean one. When asked about their relation the Afro-Caribbean indicated the Habesha girl was her girlfriend. While that term is ambiguous, from body language etc. I had suspected they were lovers even before I opened.

Now, I am currently of the belief that most women, lesbian or otherwise, are at least mildly bisexual, so I don't auto-reject just because a girl is a lesbian. I also consider infidelity to be common and not the responsibility of the extra-pair mate, so I have no qualms being that mate, either. But I don't expect to succeed at hitting on a girl right in front of her partner (maybe that's a limiting belief but it just seems absurd, socially).

So I ended up just letting the interaction peter out naturally, without making any effort to close or get either of their contacts. I had never been in a situation like this before so I had no idea what to do.

Soon after, it dawned on me that, finding them both reasonably attractive, I should've tried to pull both for a threesome! At worst, nothing happens where nothing could have anyway. At best, three happy people and no hurt feelings anywhere! Unfortunately, this is something I had no idea how to do.

I have a basic game plan for pulling one girl from day game: open, evidence sexual intent, connect a tiny bit, propose a meet, get contact, schedule casual meet near a sex location, deep dive and/or banter, touch, use an innocent pretence to get the girl to the sex location, escalate, and take her.

But I have no concept of the game plan for going from meeting a girl/girl couple in a shopping mall to sleeping with them. Is it all of the above times two? Or completely different? In particular:

• How do you show sexual intent, and have some feedback that they are on the same page? Usually, with one girl, it's fairly obvious on some level what's going on. But with two, I could see it being much easier for them to misinterpret the situation as platonic. I guess since they probably don't consciously know what they want anyway, it's more productive to just go for what you want, and seduce them! But I think you still need to demonstrate intent in order for that to happen, and I'm not so clear on how to do that with two. Give both physical compliments? Or something more bold (like, "so, have you two ever shared a man?") Recall, this is day game, so you're not in a lengthy interaction where you've built all that much comfort/rapport.
  
  
• What if the interaction is mostly with one? As was the case here. If I had them isolated I'd probably just go for a normal pull, but in this case the Habesha one wasn't really in the interaction much, but she was further down the same aisle so could easily have noticed if I got the girl's number. Would I have been best to just try a normal meet proposal on the Afro-Caribbean first and then try the threesome possibility if she resisted meeting alone? Or proactively try to get the Habesha girl more involved, either directly or by telling the Afro-Caribbean something like, "you and your girl should come ..."?
  
  
• Do you go for both of their contacts right away, or do you just make contact with the one who is more engaged (for instance in the above example, the Afro-Caribbean)?
  
  
• How do you keep the ball in your court during the meet scheduling? Seppuku has mentioned you need to avoid letting the girl take the "I'll get back to you" frame, instead retracting your suggested date and keeping the ball in your court to later propose a new date. I find this tricky enough sometimes even just with one girl. How can you possibly make it work when you're at the mercy of two girls' schedules?
  
  
• What sort of initial meet do you propose? Do you just propose meeting both for coffee? Or is it better since it's two of them to just invite them home directly? I assume the same basic principle holds, that you ideally need to make the sex happen on the first meeting.

I also have no idea how to do the actual escalation, division of labour (LOL) etc., but I imagine I can find reading material on that aspect.

I'd be very interested to hear any stories of pulling a threesome with a girl/girl couple out of day game! I'm guessing it's not common, though.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey Phoenix,

It is a very interesting situation. As I haven't experienced a threesome myself so far, I have only partial answers here, but I hope you will find them relevant.

What I have dealt with, two times successfully in the past, is a situation where target girl didn't want to go on a date with me alone, but wanted to bring a girlfriend along. The way I turned that to my advantage is telling them to go straight to my home for dinner. After all, they are two girls and I'm alone, so there is less safety concern as far as dealing with an unknown guy from their side. You can even joke you're the one at risk: "hey I hope you will not physically abuse me!". Once at home, I get them to help me in the kitchen preparing food, then set everyone comfortable in my living room, run my touch game etc..., make a sexy mood, get everyone excited (including the friend) while focusing primarily on my target. While it didn't end up on full escalation right away (the presence of the girlfriend...), what this did is to nicely prepare the way for the next date, which was one-on-one with my target, and directly in my home. Much easier to achieve since she's already been there and seen it, and all went well (I'm a sexy guy and not a weirdo). On the second date, she literally falls straight into my bed. In one instance, the girl even actually invited herself alone to my home the next day and we fucked right away.

Now on the second instance (in 2016) I was already experienced seducer, and I did a very good job to warm up the two girls' spirits. The girlfriend started to act very sexual with me, in front of her friend (i.e. my target), like starting to dance with me and rubbing her ass against my crotch. And when I took the girls back home (in taxi), the girlfriend was actually holding my hard-on through my trousers. So... that was a situation where I could have tried a threesome right away. But what put me off is the fact that said girlfriend was proclaimed lesbian. Didn't know how to handle this... So I preferred to secure one girl (my target) rather than risking ruining the mood and failing escalation on both.

But that was 2016. If I was to re-do it today, I would attempt escalation on both. Like you, I have come to believe that "lesbians" are actually by and large bisexual. In fact, I learned in 2017 that this lesbian girl later got pregnant - obviously by a dick - so she knew what to do with a man after all. So next time I will handle a "lesbian" just like any other woman.

For a double escalation, I would need to establish a solid sexy vibe, a good mood, and bring up excitation in both. Then I would start to run touch game on both, escalating to sexual touch and getting everyone aroused. To get things to next level, I could for instance take their hand and put it on my crotch - very effective, they usually continue the escalation themselves.

HOWEVER you will stand more chance if you already have some experience in escalating one woman.

In your case, here is a suggestion.

1. Go for your target girl. Better to secure one, than fail two. Especially if you have little experience in escalation. Then handle that like a one on one date.
2. If there is any resistance, try to have them both coming on a date.
3. Once the principle of a date with the two is established, try making it a date directly at your place. As seen above, it's easier to achieve first date at home with two, than one
4. At your home, overall see example above.

That's one way. Let's see other guys' suggestions.

Seppuku
PS. And if you were more experienced and up to try it, I would change point 1. to "1. Get them both on a date at your place".

 

[ThePhoenix]

Hey Seppuku,

Thank you for the suggestions!

I read your LRs for I think those situations you mention. That's actually where I got the idea of maybe inviting them home directly. Of course, in that case you were using it as a counter-offer when she wanted to bring the friend, so it would be interesting to see if it would also work as an initial suggestion.

Yes, I think one girl would be easier than two, particularly being not that experienced. Actually my main motivation for going for both was, ironically, that I was kind of scared to try pulling just one of them right in front of her partner! Kind of like, would I hit on a girl right in front of her boyfriend?

In retrospect, I think I was over-reacting to the partner being there. The partner didn't act in at all the way I'd expect a boyfriend to act. Usually I would expect a boyfriend to stick close to the girl if a guy comes around to talk to her, to "defend his territory". (Actually a sort of dumb behaviour that I wouldn't do if I was him as it only makes you look insecure... but I expect most guys to do that.) Are lesbians less territorial, maybe? lol

No, the partner came over briefly at the girl's request and then wandered off, leaving the girl open to talk to more. I was kind of confused! In retrospect I still don't know what that was all about. Was the partner so secure that she didn't even see me as a threat? Did they have an open relationship and she didn't even really care what happened? Was she happy her girl was pulling in their lunch? Or did I misread them being lovers and the Afro-Caribbean calling the other one girlfriend was just a shit test or even just intended to mean close platonic friend? Who knows!

I think next time I'm not even going to probe for their relationship, and instead just assume she's available even if I suspect they're lovers. (I have to remind myself that being over-confident is better than giving in to deterrents so easily!) As you mention, if she does resist due to being in a relationship, I can always at that point switch to trying to pull both. Or, if the partner is being overtly territorial, then maybe just go straight for both.

Hopefully it's not too much of a jump, from having already suggested a coffee date with the one, to now making it a date at home with the two. But it can't hurt to try; at least you don't waste a lot of time, because if they agree, it's more likely they're on the same page.

Actually, hitting on a lesbian couple sounds like a lot of fun for a confident man. I could see telling one, while looking at the other suggestively, "you and I have the same taste!" hahaha! Would really love to hear if anyone's done it from cold approach.

I think I'd seen these two in the same mall before that occasion, so I might see them again. Will definitely try something if so.

Phoenix