This was my first Tinder date, and a very brief chat exchange at that (though our few messages were almost as long as this paragraph, which is rare but due to deep diving and packing in the sexual frames and leading all in one. I sometimes take hours to respond to girls who respond within minutes and it always feels just fine, though this exchange was pretty prompt. She was writing back eagerly and following my lead so all was well.
So I matched with a girl 5 years older. My blurb says I'm likely leaving in a couple months (think she read it??? Lol). I unmatched after we fucked for privacy so can't remember the opener, but I used her name with something playful but not sexual and in my second message told her to tell me about why she values nature (her bio mentioned wanting to live in it).
When I deep dive with commands like that I use an exclamation mark and put it all after something playful so she picks up good emotions. For example, after a DIFFERENT girl asked about my favourite cheese and "cats or dogs or cats", I said "now that you've vetted me for evening-in compatibility, tell me about your cat!" And she simply complied. He also likes cheese and we now have a brie to bake (oh wait that'll take an oven in one of our homes right?) Haha
Back to the first girl - later she told me how bad most guys on Tinder (and in real life) are terrible at leading and ask how her day is going, so this might have helped with why she jumped at giving me a good answer (finally a sexual guy showing real interest in her personally!) about how she believes our society is off track.
I can relate to anything from girls who believe in auras and chakras to the most conservative Catholics, as well as super scientific. Also, I don't ask questions much anymore. I just cold read with statements phrased to lead her into talking, like "so you value or like this" or "you must really...".
So what I did is basically agree and slip in that it would be more efficient to just sniff each other naked around the community fire. It was within context so she wasn't forced to reply to it. Now in almost nothing, I've expressed comfort with sexuality and connected HARD as most people on Tinder - let alone in the world - wouldn't actually enjoy her views, whereas I loved the idea of being off-grid from just 17 years old. There is a big "freedom" frame here like we're all just animals
OK, so her third message ends with calling herself a hypocrite because she's in a coffee shop writing her paper while on Tinder (I.e. plugged in tech). I of course am cocky and tease her for wanting me to come distract her in person but have to hit the bed to wake at 5 a.m.
She says she'd welcome it and asked if I had another picture (could have chase framed but was already riding one) because mine are from a shitty cell cam.
I said "No but you can come sniff me in person" hitching back to the nude community fire idea from my 3rd ever message to her. She later said she knew she liked me from that message. I take this as girl confirms you are a man of action and knew she "liked" the idea of mating, whereas really "liking" someone as a person has more to do with the connection (girls do fuck guys they don't totally like), but she NEEDED to know that I will let her be a sexually passive and receptive woman.
She said Haha OK and we went purely to logistics with two choices in her area. She chose one bar and on the way since the weather was nice I suggested we "do it in the park". We like the outdoors so obviously I meant do the 'date' right? Lol. I find it's cool to use innuendos and have her still be comfortable as long as you lead her away immediately and show zero need to even escalate.
We meet at a corner and she's just a little naturally taller than me but also wearing raised footwear. I comment (hindsight unsure if this was good, though now we talk about height and dominance and how it's her mate screening. Suppose it was ME screening HER comfort whereas it's typically opposite but maybe me bringing it up with a smile showed I am obviously comfortable) and she says age and height are both just numbers (with a smile). I.e. she totally finds more height attractive but is still attracted to me too.
We head to the park and I deep dive the shit out of her. I can't even begin to describe. I slipped into using too many question structured sentences, but DAMN do girls feel connected when you understand them. Once on a plane I got to know a girl better than any of her closest university friends ever had. This shit is powerful.
Here's a kicker. I wasn't sexual AT ALL except for sexy fundamentals (BINGO). I believe this confused her and acted as a push pull. After she tells me most guys only talk about their opinions on stupid topics, we start heading back. Things are great but it's the guy's job to make her horny after all.
Zero innuendo in person so far, except one reference to drilling her deep on her motivations. Drilling was appropriate because she kept remarking how challenging it was to do so much self examining.
OK so we're walking and conversation turns to reading. I tell her about Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden. How's that for a sexual frame? So I casually discuss rape fantasy like any other topic. I express knowledge that girls would like a guy to take the action.
Oh, it turns out the park is next to her apartment (always think logistics!). I ask her for water due to dry mouth and she says she was already thinking we could just hang out at her place.
Seriously, I've dropped like 1 minute total on sex talk and didn't touch her one bit until the kiss. It was tension central because she chose to right swipe someone who is leaving the city and expressed sexual intent very briefly only in our messaging. Keep this in mind because girls are mirrors and will open only to displays of nonjudgmental behaviour.
She will open up later as a very sexual woman, but still sits across the room from me for quite a while. We get to astrology and check our compatibility on her tablet. I casually say let's check our sexual compatibility and read into it a bit. She's a bit taken aback, surprised how open and comfortable I am because she later said guys don't even tease properly, let alone show total clear intent (with the crucial aspect of non neediness I must add personally).
Now the juice. She starts asking more about me. I haven't followed the 10 minute kiss rule because she knows I'm going to do it and am now just challenging the shit out of her when I tell her what I really want deep down is to live on a private island with 5 women that I love and raise a big family together.
She hasn't talked sexually yet but then goes into how she fantasizes about women and went out to vet a couple who had propositioned her. She's never messed with a woman and after our second date we EASILY agreed to have a threesome at some point. This is happening because I presented myself as a pretty loving guy excited by how much she masturbates and fantasizes about threesomes with a girl. Oh I kissed her when she got a really horny look hearing like 10 seconds of my life plan. Then I turned it back to her. I could have definitely fucked her way sooner but knew it could happen whenever I lead it there and I really was enjoying getting to know this fascinating person.
Anyways, she's on her period so we actually go OUT and eat because we're definitely hungry. She moves to split the bill and later says guys pay for her but she didn't think I am the type (one line about a loving harem and you're pegged a trustworthy player - perfect!).
She says we're not having sex but she wants me to stay over because she usually gets sick of people's company after so long but is enjoying mine so much. We try to break into a high school then head back and get in bed. She tells me how wet she is. I feel in and touch her eco friendly period cup haha. SHE decides to take it out when I have not once even escalated cause I treated it like literally just curious about this period cup thing.
She comes back from the bathroom and I make her undress, shove her head down, and then build up to a strong fingering of the deep spot so she feels like a dick should be there. As expected she asks me to fuck her. I make her ask me a few times and louder and then do so with her arms pinned down.
We get Thai food the next day and hang out in the park a while with some pot.
I think long teases are very powerful with a combination of intent and absolute non neediness. It's very fun to turn a girl who says we are not fucking to one obeying you to beg for it, all the while actually never being the one who pushed for it. 'How to Make Girls Chase'.
We are going to have a threesome and sex in the forest. She's doing a therapy practicum for her master's and has analyzed my commitment issues with a frame of trying to get me to commit to her, obviously.
We now basically have an open relationship with expectations set. She wants me to tell her not to go on dates, but I have got one planned myself.
There were so many great comments such as "you should start a business and teach my ex boyfriends how to lead", "you're an expert as this eh" (meaning getting girls to fuck on the first date), "you've had a lot of sex haven't you", and while discussing rough sex she realizes how much exercise it is for guys and says "wow it's like planking and thrusting all at once. Is that why you have washboard abs, because you have a lot of sex?"
Apparently being extremely comfortable with nonjudgmental sex talk (different from dirty talk) and being totally non needy leads to a perception as a very practiced man and caused her to catch up to mutual escalation (I do plan to continue sometimes with a long tease, but also to try 1-hour meet-to-mate or less).
This was the 5th lay of my life over 10 years, so thank you Chase and everyone whose writing you have introduced me to.
So I matched with a girl 5 years older. My blurb says I'm likely leaving in a couple months (think she read it??? Lol). I unmatched after we fucked for privacy so can't remember the opener, but I used her name with something playful but not sexual and in my second message told her to tell me about why she values nature (her bio mentioned wanting to live in it).
When I deep dive with commands like that I use an exclamation mark and put it all after something playful so she picks up good emotions. For example, after a DIFFERENT girl asked about my favourite cheese and "cats or dogs or cats", I said "now that you've vetted me for evening-in compatibility, tell me about your cat!" And she simply complied. He also likes cheese and we now have a brie to bake (oh wait that'll take an oven in one of our homes right?) Haha
Back to the first girl - later she told me how bad most guys on Tinder (and in real life) are terrible at leading and ask how her day is going, so this might have helped with why she jumped at giving me a good answer (finally a sexual guy showing real interest in her personally!) about how she believes our society is off track.
I can relate to anything from girls who believe in auras and chakras to the most conservative Catholics, as well as super scientific. Also, I don't ask questions much anymore. I just cold read with statements phrased to lead her into talking, like "so you value or like this" or "you must really...".
So what I did is basically agree and slip in that it would be more efficient to just sniff each other naked around the community fire. It was within context so she wasn't forced to reply to it. Now in almost nothing, I've expressed comfort with sexuality and connected HARD as most people on Tinder - let alone in the world - wouldn't actually enjoy her views, whereas I loved the idea of being off-grid from just 17 years old. There is a big "freedom" frame here like we're all just animals
OK, so her third message ends with calling herself a hypocrite because she's in a coffee shop writing her paper while on Tinder (I.e. plugged in tech). I of course am cocky and tease her for wanting me to come distract her in person but have to hit the bed to wake at 5 a.m.
She says she'd welcome it and asked if I had another picture (could have chase framed but was already riding one) because mine are from a shitty cell cam.
I said "No but you can come sniff me in person" hitching back to the nude community fire idea from my 3rd ever message to her. She later said she knew she liked me from that message. I take this as girl confirms you are a man of action and knew she "liked" the idea of mating, whereas really "liking" someone as a person has more to do with the connection (girls do fuck guys they don't totally like), but she NEEDED to know that I will let her be a sexually passive and receptive woman.
She said Haha OK and we went purely to logistics with two choices in her area. She chose one bar and on the way since the weather was nice I suggested we "do it in the park". We like the outdoors so obviously I meant do the 'date' right? Lol. I find it's cool to use innuendos and have her still be comfortable as long as you lead her away immediately and show zero need to even escalate.
We meet at a corner and she's just a little naturally taller than me but also wearing raised footwear. I comment (hindsight unsure if this was good, though now we talk about height and dominance and how it's her mate screening. Suppose it was ME screening HER comfort whereas it's typically opposite but maybe me bringing it up with a smile showed I am obviously comfortable) and she says age and height are both just numbers (with a smile). I.e. she totally finds more height attractive but is still attracted to me too.
We head to the park and I deep dive the shit out of her. I can't even begin to describe. I slipped into using too many question structured sentences, but DAMN do girls feel connected when you understand them. Once on a plane I got to know a girl better than any of her closest university friends ever had. This shit is powerful.
Here's a kicker. I wasn't sexual AT ALL except for sexy fundamentals (BINGO). I believe this confused her and acted as a push pull. After she tells me most guys only talk about their opinions on stupid topics, we start heading back. Things are great but it's the guy's job to make her horny after all.
Zero innuendo in person so far, except one reference to drilling her deep on her motivations. Drilling was appropriate because she kept remarking how challenging it was to do so much self examining.
OK so we're walking and conversation turns to reading. I tell her about Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden. How's that for a sexual frame? So I casually discuss rape fantasy like any other topic. I express knowledge that girls would like a guy to take the action.
Oh, it turns out the park is next to her apartment (always think logistics!). I ask her for water due to dry mouth and she says she was already thinking we could just hang out at her place.
Seriously, I've dropped like 1 minute total on sex talk and didn't touch her one bit until the kiss. It was tension central because she chose to right swipe someone who is leaving the city and expressed sexual intent very briefly only in our messaging. Keep this in mind because girls are mirrors and will open only to displays of nonjudgmental behaviour.
She will open up later as a very sexual woman, but still sits across the room from me for quite a while. We get to astrology and check our compatibility on her tablet. I casually say let's check our sexual compatibility and read into it a bit. She's a bit taken aback, surprised how open and comfortable I am because she later said guys don't even tease properly, let alone show total clear intent (with the crucial aspect of non neediness I must add personally).
Now the juice. She starts asking more about me. I haven't followed the 10 minute kiss rule because she knows I'm going to do it and am now just challenging the shit out of her when I tell her what I really want deep down is to live on a private island with 5 women that I love and raise a big family together.
She hasn't talked sexually yet but then goes into how she fantasizes about women and went out to vet a couple who had propositioned her. She's never messed with a woman and after our second date we EASILY agreed to have a threesome at some point. This is happening because I presented myself as a pretty loving guy excited by how much she masturbates and fantasizes about threesomes with a girl. Oh I kissed her when she got a really horny look hearing like 10 seconds of my life plan. Then I turned it back to her. I could have definitely fucked her way sooner but knew it could happen whenever I lead it there and I really was enjoying getting to know this fascinating person.
Anyways, she's on her period so we actually go OUT and eat because we're definitely hungry. She moves to split the bill and later says guys pay for her but she didn't think I am the type (one line about a loving harem and you're pegged a trustworthy player - perfect!).
She says we're not having sex but she wants me to stay over because she usually gets sick of people's company after so long but is enjoying mine so much. We try to break into a high school then head back and get in bed. She tells me how wet she is. I feel in and touch her eco friendly period cup haha. SHE decides to take it out when I have not once even escalated cause I treated it like literally just curious about this period cup thing.
She comes back from the bathroom and I make her undress, shove her head down, and then build up to a strong fingering of the deep spot so she feels like a dick should be there. As expected she asks me to fuck her. I make her ask me a few times and louder
and then do so with her arms pinned down.We get Thai food the next day and hang out in the park a while with some pot.
I think long teases are very powerful with a combination of intent and absolute non neediness. It's very fun to turn a girl who says we are not fucking to one obeying you to beg for it, all the while actually never being the one who pushed for it. 'How to Make Girls Chase'.
We are going to have a threesome and sex in the forest. She's doing a therapy practicum for her master's and has analyzed my commitment issues with a frame of trying to get me to commit to her, obviously.
We now basically have an open relationship with expectations set. She wants me to tell her not to go on dates, but I have got one planned myself.
There were so many great comments such as "you should start a business and teach my ex boyfriends how to lead", "you're an expert as this eh" (meaning getting girls to fuck on the first date), "you've had a lot of sex haven't you", and while discussing rough sex she realizes how much exercise it is for guys and says "wow it's like planking and thrusting all at once. Is that why you have washboard abs, because you have a lot of sex?"
Apparently being extremely comfortable with nonjudgmental sex talk (different from dirty talk) and being totally non needy leads to a perception as a very practiced man and caused her to catch up to mutual escalation (I do plan to continue sometimes with a long tease, but also to try 1-hour meet-to-mate or less).
This was the 5th lay of my life over 10 years, so thank you Chase and everyone whose writing you have introduced me to.
