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TheEcho

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Hey Gents!

Met this girl last week while picking up some Starbucks. I saw her further in line, then while waiting for our drinks, she ended up by my side (dont think it was out of interest). I just used a situational opener about the wait and started chatting with her, come to find out she works next door and was headed there asap. She had some cool necklaces and I asked about them and held them. I wasn't getting much interest from her at all, but for whatever reason, these seemingly uninterested girls seem to go far. When I found out she has work right now, I told her she was cool and asked if she'd like to hang out some time. She was hesitant, but said she could give me her number, so I got it, her drink finished, and off she went.

She was a lot more lovely over text and we planned to meet last Friday, but when the day came, I texted her earlier in the day, called her 10 minutes after our planned meet time, then left a text at 20 minutes, "Hey Brenda, guess we got mixed up, tried to call you, but I take it something's going on." No response, so I continued Postmates.

The next morning (Christmas Eve), I pinged almost every girl in my phone and out of all of them, she was the only one who responded and agreed to meet, on Thursday (yesterday). Fast forward...

We met outside a Starbucks and the plan was to just pick a place in the area, but she was already seated with a coffee when I got there, so I just hugged her and sat and chatted. Simply got to know her with teasing thrown in, and occasional touch when she was leaning forward. Neither of us were hungry and I found out her roommates are all gone right now, so I suggested we go to her place and just hang out at "some place more warm". She was totally up for it and she gave me her address, but we decided to just go in her car.

Back at her place, she threw on The Office as I used the restroom, and we sat pretty close on the couch. She had a bunch of little interesting things to show me (tiny pine cone collection, different crystals she has), and at one point I teased her then grabbed her and kissed her when she was laughing. Let go and went back to talking, having my arm over the coach behind her at first, then on her, then pulled her into me soon after. We started kissing heavily and I pulled her onto me (by the way, she is 5'2, light skinned, long, straight dark hair, heart shaped face with big brown eyes, very thin). Somewhere here, she said she was not going to have sex with me, and I responded with "who said anything about that?", then straight back to kissing. She started dry grinding on me and I picked her up and took her to her room...

On her bed, I quickly moved to feel her boobs (cute size, if you will) and take her shirt off. That came off easily, then I had her take my shirt off. Her bra was pulled up for a little while, but that eventually came off too. I kissed down her body and planted my face on her pussy and unbuttoned her pants. She hit me with the no sex thing again and I simply moved back to her face and kissed her. I started rubbing her through her pants, and I forget how I managed this move, but I believe I had my hand under her pants (she had leggings and panties on, though), then moved my body down and moved my arm in a way that pushed her pants down, and quickly pulled them down.

Can't say she was happy I took her pants off, but she helped pull them off her feet anyways. I tried putting her hand on my dick several times (still in my pants...) but she would quickly move her hand off. I just decided to take my pants off and at this point, I'm naked besides socks, and she just has her leggings and panties on.

It was only maybe an hour in at this point, felt like we were going along smoothly, she would let me dry hump her (her moans were so erotic), and rub her (and push in as much as possible) through her leggings, but would not touch my dick with her hands and would not let me put my hands in her leggings.

Queue the 6 hours of LMR, just dancing between cuddling, dry humping, me pushing forward, and her getting pretty upset with me for persisting. She would call me an asshole when I would try to put my hands in her leggings, and a few times I would mention wanting to make her feel good/wanting her to do something with my dick, and she would get upset about me "guilting" her, and that all of this was my idea, not hers. I never intentionally tried to guilt her (though the comments definitely could seem as such), I was simply trying to get her to imagine me doing things to her and make her more horny (which I suppose needs a large helping of recalibration...).

I decided to start getting to know her more, rather than just be physical, and she enjoyed laying on me as we talked. I decided to curl her up, pick her up, and take her downstairs. We layed on the couch and she told me some things she was deeply interested in (I'm focusing on building a deeper connection than others have) and a couple times I'd passionately attack her with kissing and turning over so she was on bottom and I'd have a go into her leggings again, but was always stopped. A couple times I had her stand and I could push both my thumbs into her pussy through her leggings, and she loved that, but I didn't let her cum (I believe she came once or twice from dry humping).

I picked her up again at some point and took her back upstairs and this time, I was a bit more adventurous with positions, because it turned out she was really flexible. A couple times in missionary position, I'd just wrap my arm around her, rest myself against her and just lay like that, which she enjoyed. She was also small enough to lay on her back, legs up against her chest, slightly turned toward me as I lay beside her and could rub myself against hers, while holding her tightly. Forgot to mention, when on the couch I pinned her between me and it and had her arms go behind the couch while her legs were over my arms, so a very stretched, vertical missionary, but I had my knees on the couch. (PS. I love all heights , but tiny, flexible girls definitely are proving to be the most enjoyable to be with)

She was a little kinky in that she would sometimes kiss and put her mouth around my jaw, and put her tongue in my ear, but with all this, and her apparent love of being physically dominated, she kept the walls up. Though, she was letting my put my hands on her leggings to grab her ass, she still shot back when I got near her pussy.

Jump forward to about 12 (we met at 6, and were back at her place very quickly)...

I've said I need to go, my parents were texting me, but neither of us wanted me to leave. So I sat against the wall with my legs in butterfly, and she sat inter space, first facing me and kissing, then somehow, some way, she ended up laying against me.....

She was laying down almost all the way, between my legs, and I had her lift up and spread her legs while I rubbed her pussy. I then moved my hand into her leggings, but still over her panties and moved toward her pussy. She did an "uh uh" said, but didn't move my hand, so I just toyed with her clit for a moment before taking my hand out. And finally....

I did it again, but this time I got my finger to the entrance (still over her panties) and started pushing into her. She just melted in my lap, laid her head back and just moaned and enjoyed it. I soon moved her panties aside and dove my fingers all the way in her. Soon after, I moved her off me and lowered myself to suck her clit a bit, which she loved. I then went to my pants, got a condom out and while putting it on, she said, "I hate you" and I responded, "You can hate me all you want". Then moved her legs up to basic missionary, and in I went. She loved it and at first I had my hands on her thighs, just below her knees, then I remembered she is really flexible, so I grabbed her ankles, pinned them out, and fucked her silly. Flexibility has suddenly become a requirement for me with girls ;)

We actually seemed to finish at the same time, and I pulled out, took the condom off, and covered her. She called me a jerk after that, but I think I can live with it ;)
There was very little light in her room up until this point, and while cleaning her up, we turned on her light, which let me see her whole pussy. It was like out of an anatomy book, I don't know if I've ever seen such a perfect little pussy, and even though her clit was tiny, the lips and protruding features were all very balanced in length, not too flappy, but still present, so locating the spot was easy. I then ate her out more (each time, I learned how to please her better; I enjoyed that experience) and soon was up again.

She was shocked I was ready to go again, but I had told her earlier how I can go for a long time, nice that I could prove it ;) Started missionary again, but with the light on, so we could see each other better. I then had her flip over lay down and we tried that for a little bit. Moved on to doggy, but after hours of being hard, I could stay up enough to get in her.

Here's something that really ticked me off (and it did show a little): I asked her to suck it to bring it back, and she completely refused, using the same reasons as not having sex (she doesn't feel like it). And after having fingered, eaten, and fucked her nicely, I was pissed she would just flat out turn down giving some back.

I had taken the condom off at this point, and she agreed to use her hand (though it only felt alright half the time). I had her sit on me for 69, and while fingering and licking her and hearing her moan, I tried pushing her head down, and the cheeky girl shoved my dick down in a way that hurt. Eventually I could get the condom back on (only had 2), but she was so dry at this point, she kept needing to stop (right as I was about to finish...).

I called the evening after holding her for a little while and she drove me back to my car. We kissed hard in the car, and she was very sweet all around. All in all, the night was worth it, experience wise and experience wise ;) Though her actions around the blowjob definitely soured the taste a bit

Any tips, questions, comments, just let me know!

Take care Gents!
Josh
 

Big Daddy

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Solid LR. I've been subscribing the idea of just spending time with the girl and not FIGHTING THROUGH LMR AND ALL THIS YOLO SHIT because most of time they just need you to be there and make her hornier and hornier.

Given that she doesn't think you'll judge her, you'll probably be good to go.

erpiaosn said:
(...) and a few times I would mention wanting to make her feel good/wanting her to do something with my dick, and she would get upset about me "guilting" her, and that all of this was my idea, not hers. I never intentionally tried to guilt her (though the comments definitely could seem as such), I was simply trying to get her to imagine me doing things to her and make her more horny (which I suppose needs a large helping of recalibration...).
Fuck, I miss the tone so many times while doing this too... Can relate.

erpiaosn said:
Here's something that really ticked me off (and it did show a little): I asked her to suck it to bring it back, and she completely refused, using the same reasons as not having sex (she doesn't feel like it). And after having fingered, eaten, and fucked her nicely, I was pissed she would just flat out turn down giving some back.
Dude, for real, nothing perplexes more in a girl I fuck than this. I tried a couple of things but I still have no idea how to overcome this.
 

TheEcho

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Thanks Big Daddy! (Have you ever had a girl call you that?)

Yeah, she was kind of socially awkward (I left out several...odd instances). After the dust has settled though, I'm curious how to deal with a girl you've been with whose responded to the day after text, then disappeared. I really enjoyed how unusual she was, but our interests are pretty unaligned (and who am I kidding, I loved having a tiny girl I could bend like a doll who has a perfectly shaped pussy)

Are there any good measures to reignite her want to see you again? I plan on having the gaps that are recommended in the normal "No Response" article, but feel things may be different after sex.

The texts since:
  • Me: (Friday morning) Hey [name], had a great time last night. Hope you aren't too tired today ;)
    Her: (few hours later) Lol pretty tired haha i didn't realize what time you left
    Me: Time flies when you're having fun ;)

    Me: (Saturday evening) Hey [name], hope your New Year is going well. What's your schedule like next week?

    Me: (Monday morning) Morning, how was the weekend?

Can't help but feel my texts are too impersonal, given how I persisted against her so much...

Take care,
Josh
 

Smurf

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Hell yeah dude!

Yeah, if I get LMR, it's usually a period or that we "can't do it tonight". I've also subscribed to stop escalating and talk. When you get more abundance, it comes off a lot better as well. I got some LMR tonight, and she kept telling me she doesn't know when we were about to fuck. I told her, "I don't want to if you don't." And I meant it, because I had just had sex the day before, and I really like this girl as more than just my fuck toy. Eventually, after talking and her literally grinding her pussy on my dick we fucked. I find it much more effective than "just keep going for it!", just like BD said.

About the bj thing, it's positively infuriating. Last fall I fucked a girl who refused to go down on me. Even though we fucked 4 or 5 times. Combine that with me not really caring for her personality and it just being a fuck and go kind of thing, I stopped talking to her. I think it's petty not to date or fuck a girl because she won't go down on you, but at the same time it's a really big turn on for me when a girl does it with enthusiasm and actually wants to.

One thing I'm conflicting with now is getting girls too horny. I don't want them to regret a decision just because we got really attracted to each other in the moment. I try to counter this by extreme warmth afterwards. We'll see how this works out.

Another way I counter LMR is pacing. I'll go slow with the foreplay, stop, "attack" them with passion, stop after 10 seconds, go a little faster than slow, etc. I mix up the pace and try to tap into how I feel in the moment.

One of the best "tricks" I do is teasing the shit out of girls. When they start to get into the kissing, I ramp up a bit, then stop and say something nonsensical. After that I go back in but I just tease them with my lips. I get about a millimeter from theirs and just stop. I'll feint in but not kiss them. I'll brush my lips against theirs, push their head back if their really trying to go in for it, lick their lips, etc. So far it's done nothing but drive girls insane. Some reactions I get: "Fucking stop!", "don't do that", or just moans in general. Try it out, let me know what you think!

Damn I always end up ranting, good shit on the LR, Josh!

Jake.
 

mindful

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erpiaosn said:
Thanks Big Daddy! (Have you ever had a girl call you that?)

Yeah, she was kind of socially awkward (I left out several...odd instances). After the dust has settled though, I'm curious how to deal with a girl you've been with whose responded to the day after text, then disappeared. I really enjoyed how unusual she was, but our interests are pretty unaligned (and who am I kidding, I loved having a tiny girl I could bend like a doll who has a perfectly shaped pussy)

Are there any good measures to reignite her want to see you again? I plan on having the gaps that are recommended in the normal "No Response" article, but feel things may be different after sex.

The texts since:
  • Me: (Friday morning) Hey [name], had a great time last night. Hope you aren't too tired today ;)
    Her: (few hours later) Lol pretty tired haha i didn't realize what time you left
    Me: Time flies when you're having fun ;)

    Me: (Saturday evening) Hey [name], hope your New Year is going well. What's your schedule like next week?

    Me: (Monday morning) Morning, how was the weekend?

Can't help but feel my texts are too impersonal, given how I persisted against her so much...

Take care,
Josh

This is a big lesson, especially when you start sleeping with women on first dates. Just because you get her to bed does not mean she is "yours". I know it can hit the ego but just be proud of the lay. Now in this case, you texted her the next day which is good (to dismiss her defense that you just wanted her for sex and not speak with her again). However, to see her again there is different variables in play. How did the date go overrall? What was the vibe? How was the sex? Maybe she did have a good time on the first date but the whole date and your dynamic will determine if she wants to see you again.
 

TheEcho

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Hey guys!

Love the LMR tips, and thanks for the questions to ask about a night, concerning future meets. She was pretty pissed every time I would try to get past her leggings, the whole night, despite letting me rub my naked dick on her mound...

Tonight, I saw the hot twin from my FR again, and a similar theme came up. Now the twin resisted touch period (we were at her place and I thought I was going to get some giant, firm, tan ass...), but I believe my style of dominant, heavy touch, get-to-sex is killing the vibe for some girls. She eventually wouldn't be near me and tried ending the date, but I played it chill and focused on talking with her, and eventually she sat near me again, and would inch closer to me as we had a more meaningful conversation and I restrained my touch to her shoulder and sometimes knee. Unfortunately, she called the night when her roommate texted her and she saw the time again, but had I done that from the start, she may have very well ended up on me without me needing to bother.

And just how you guys suggested, I've been noticing a trend of guys not using aggressive LMR-busters, and just being sexy and warm. I definitely need to adopt this when a girl is resistant to my normal style...

Take care,
Josh
 

TheEcho

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By the way, the twin kept wanting to go out and do something (pool, climb, skate) and offered to pay. She kept saying she likes to go slow, and when she realized I don't, she'd say it was no problem and that it was cool meeting me. Going by astrology, she's a Pisces, and from my experience, they want things to go a certain way, or it's a no go. For her, that was "get to know you, be friends, go have an adventure".

Would you guys ever do that with a girl? (Not the be friends, but go do something)
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

mindful

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Depends on what you want from her.

When I moved to a new city I was involved with a girl that took me a few weeks to bed. Yet I continued hanging out and doing things with her because I didn't really have many friends anyway. You can always go at a slower pace with her and do things like this and it will probably lead to sex as long as you still keep things sexual to an extend such as kissing, etc. you can also still continue seeing other girls. This depends on what you want from her though. If it's just to get the lay and you don't really care for her then no I wouldn't do these things.
 

jdoc

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Hey Josh,

Excellent work on the LR, bro. You're a trooper for getting through 6 hours of LMR. I have a couple of pointers to add to what the others have already mentioned.

1. Great work with the situational approach and getting her number.
2. You handled your response well when she did not show up to the date.
3. Good response when she said she was not going to have sex with you.
4. I like how you picked her up and took her to your room. Very dominant.
5.
Me: (Friday morning) Hey [name], had a great time last night. Hope you aren't too tired today ;)
Her: (few hours later) Lol pretty tired haha i didn't realize what time you left
Me: Time flies when you're having fun ;)
Good text exchange.
6.
Me: (Saturday evening) Hey [name], hope your New Year is going well. What's your schedule like next week?

Me: (Monday morning) Morning, how was the weekend?
Personally I think that the first text was a little too rigid considering that you've already slept with her. I think asking her schedule without explicitly mentioning that you want to see her again can seem a little off. I think something like: "Hey [name], hope you're having a good week! Thinking we should get together for (coffee/drinks/etc) soon. How's next week for you? :)" would be good.

The follow up text after she ignored your initial text was too much. "Morning" sounds a little too formal, and asking about her weekend is too chasey. A simple low-investment message like "Hey :)" would have been fine. If she's into it, she'll message you back. Going overboard will only serve to chase her away even further.
7. https://www.girlschase.com/content/shat ... on-passion
Have you read Hector's article of LMR? It's extremely helpful and I can't recommend it enough. It's easily one of the best articles on GC. Read it several times and apply the principles and say goodbye to LMR :)

Jeffrey
 

TheEcho

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Awesome, thanks guys!

Yeah, going back over all our texts, I was way warmer before, so I switched in the wrong direction. I did get her to respond, but think I may have been a little forward again, since I believe her biggest reservation is being seen as a person and not a sex toy. (For some reason, during the night, when I'd tell her to do stuff, I would only say the thing, and she reacted by telling me she isn't a dog)

The new texts:
  • Me: (Friday) Doing okay over there? Your fingers didn't freeze off, did they? I'd hate to have to call you nubs ;) (she has a condition that causes her toes and fingers to get dangerously cold when she's in the cold)
    Her: Hey, thanks for checking in. Im doing ok lol just working and whatnot lol no nubs yet
    Me: Always good to hear ;) We should meet up again soon, when would you be free?
    Me: (40 minutes later) Maybe make some semi-vegan food, I'm curious to try it

Thoughts on that? I always have my eye on the ball, but with her potential worry, I feel like I keep depersonalizing her (I respond fast and then reflect...). And is there anyway you guys can think of to bring her back in the loop, feel appreciated, without me getting wimpy?

Not sure if this is "beta" thinking or not, but I walk past her See's shop quite often while doing deliveries. My idea is to grab a delivery and go see her (bag in hand, so I'm doing something else), and just be warm and sexy, ask about her week, cat, her little collections of things, and probably not say anything about meeting again (or should I? If she's warm). Would you guys ever do something like that? Again, definitely feel like that's some beta stuff, but if the problem is her feeling too objectified, I can't think of a better way to warm her back up.

Still trying to meet more girls, but I guess I just like to feel that I leave everyone on good terms.

Thanks guys!
Josh
 

TheEcho

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I told her she was cool and asked if she'd like to hang out some time. She was hesitant, but said she could give me her number, so I got it, her drink finished, and off she went.
Holy crap.... my mind just got blown remembering this little step in the process that I haven't been doing; the compliment before the hangout ask. No guarantee that'll turn everything around, but should help a lot. Also very interesting reviewing how several of the girls I slept with weren't very keen to start. Sigh.... gives me hope to get back to where I was and then beyond.
 
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