Too high empathy

[tvktvk]

Hey guys, I'm having trouble increasing my numbers as a sales rep much due to too high empathy. Kinda suspecting this is also affecting my closing during seduction as well. Are there any techniques or mindsets that can help me lower this?

 

[Lotus]

Hey tvktvk,

If by empathy, you are referring to customers telling you they are not interested, in some form of another, then it sounds like you need to work on handling objections... which I think would be the same issue when closing.

When I went through this I had a list of common customer objections with prewritten responses that I would use. That way you are one step ahead of the customer.... pretty much the same situation that comes up when pulling and LMR.

 

[tvktvk]

Brum, (let me know if you want me to call you Lotus now instead)

It's not the fact that I don't know how to handle the objections. it's the fact that I don't want to come across as too pushy and therefore I don't persist to the extent that I maybe should. Sometimes when I let go of potential a sale because of some inconvience on the customer's part I feel that I'm being too nice. It's like I don't want the sale enough?

Hope that made some sense...

tvktvk

 

[Lotus]

Doesn't matter to me

I understand what you are saying, I'm in sales as well. What I'm trying to say is the customer being inconvenienced is another form of an objection. If you are providing enough value they should be eager to buy whatever you are selling because it will help them out. Sales isn't about selling them what you have to offer it's about getting them to buy what they need. The feeling of inconvenience comes from all of their needs not being addressed.

For example:

Customer- your product is pricey.
- you haven't addressed the value you bring that other products in the market don't

Customer- I'm too busy right now
- you haven't addressed that you will help save them time/money

Being too nice might also be an insecurity with yourself or your product/service... similar to closing with a girl, you may doubt that she doesn't really want what you have to offer(sex). It's an inconvenience for her to come home with you. She came with her friend. Leaving with you would be an inconvenience.... where if you know you will give her mind blowing sex you're going to push a little harder because you understand your value... There is no inconvenience. You bring so much value.... she will be grateful for what you provided.

What industry do you operate in?

 

[tvktvk]

Hey Brum, sorry I didn't reply earlier.

It's just a summer job, but I'm in the credit card business. Thank you for your advice, it actually helped a lot! My numbers have been increasing for the past week

I've worked a lot with changing my persona to an actor/entertainer character while being at work since I realized that I needed to be in a happy state to be able to sell (...and my regular persona would only attract women, loool). Always remembering I'm providing value to the customer helped a lot with that.

tvktvk

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Tvktvk,

This will be your greatest strength in seduction, but also your greatest weakness. I am by nature an empath - when I walk around a city, I feel the emotions of those around me and am quickly overwhelmed if I don't focus my mind and block out the emotional bombardment. I also cut my persistence short with some girls because I start to mirror her growing disappointment as I fail to close. That's why I've run some of my best game drunk - I just don't give a fuck and push to the win.

But, honing your game sober is the best thing you can do, especially if you venture into day-game. So here's what you need to do

1. Truly understand that a hard dick is the best thing that can happen in her life - no job, adventure, or activity can beat getting dicked up by a hot guy. Thus, whatever minor excuse she has for not following your lead is dumb (of course, if it's serious resistance, stop and backup). This is what Chase talks about as the ultimate frame - you just KNOW you're the best thing in the world for her.

2. Know that if you miss your shot now, you will likely never never never never never get another chance. To this day I sometimes think, "oh you know, she really likes me...I'm sure if I let her go now she'll come back." NOPE. NOPE. NOPE. Fuck your feelings, get her now.

3. Use your empathy to understand WHY she's not following your lead - this is where sociopaths fail in relationships; they don't know how to understand another person and are forever locked in an intermediate/lower advanced seduction level. It's not because she has to wake up early in the morning, it's because the prospect of fucking you doesn't trump her desire to get sleep. You need to be so sexy and dominant that when she says "I would love to, but I really should go get some sleep," that you look at her with a smirk that says, "you and I both know that's not true" and you just grab her hand and lead her to your house.

Ultra-high empathy is the greatest tool for learning, but it really inhibits dominant action, too. So, use it to understand, but steamroll past it when it's separating you from a girl who's clearly interested in you.

- Anatty