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Transitioning from opening to deep dive

TylerDurden

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Hi, I'm trying to approach new women on nightclubs ,I also talked to women in other places, but nightclubs it's the place I had more oppportunities.
I have a problem after delivering the first few words. specially when I go and say "hello".
For example:
Last night someone threw pepper spray on the dancefloor as a "joke" or something, and a lot of people started coughing/going outside to the patio for some air. As I was there I saw this cute girl with a drink, I asked if she could give me some (I still had my throath sore) and after she did I told her "I also take the chance to steal you some champagne" (traduced from spanish, it's shorter/more casual) and she laughed and gave me a warm smile. After a 2 second awkward pause I just left.
Or some other girl I just said "Hi", she smiled said hi and then I just left.
There are some approaches that don't work obviously, but I can't capitalize on the ones that show potential. Would a "how are you" be too lame in a high energy nightclub? the only answer I could get from that was something like, "emmm i'm fine".
 

DesiBro

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Say a compliment at that point. Eg "I've gotta say, you've got a marvelous sense of style. I love the hat..."
 

Dern

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You: "I also take the chance to steal you some champagne"
Her: *laughs and smiles*
You: "I've gotta say, you've got a marvelous sense of style. I love the hat..."
Her: "thanks"
You: "I'm Tyler"
Her: "I'm _____"
You: "So what do you do in this city?"
Her: "I'm a veterinarian"
You: "You must really love animals then"
Her: "haha yep!"
You: "how'd you decide on that as your career?"

Thus, in this example, you transition from opening to deep diving: you open situationally, then go direct to show your real intentions; next, you ask her what she does and deep dive that!
 

Eternity

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Check out Christian Mcqueen, he is one of the top experts doing nightclub game right now.
 

TylerDurden

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Thanks, for the answers. I'll try compliments, It's pretty difficult to deliver an original nice comment, but I guess it's the best for those cases.
@eternity: I'll check him, thanks
 

Estate

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I am only speaking on my own style but I just can't deep dive in any effective way in nightclubs or high energy places.

Deep diving is awesome on a first date or if you're in a calmer venue and can isolate a girl. But if it's load and the girls are drinking and hyper, trying to deep dive just seems to kill the buzz. I'll generally just say Hi to then, make some fluff talk, try to make her smile or laugh and then just escalate as quick as I can while laying on the banter thick.

Girls want to have fun and be entertained in places like this... if you appear strong, continue to escalate and keep her smiling without loosing her interest, you don't need any sort of routine really, girls are there to meet guys. They won't make it hard if your first impression is strong.
 
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TylerDurden

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I can' seem to be able to mantain banter for more than a few seconds, after that I just run out of things to say and at least I tought I could transition to some deep diving, maybe I have to practice improvising something out of what we were talking about.
If she is interested she will probably respond well to almost anything as long as I'm still bantering (about anything) and using a somewhat 'correct' body language, right?
 

Estate

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The thing about Banter is that it's silly... it's meant to be!

Most of the time you are just entertaining yourself...
I'm one of those people who just has "my own sense of humor" as my Dad would say. I find random things funny, sometimes people have no idea.
I have a little sarcastic whit... it's also just the Irish way to tell jokes or be sarcastic with a straight face... in America people don't really do that (ever wonder why Ireland produces some of the best comedians who travel world wide but not a single one has broken America... lol), so they often don't get me.

If I'm trying to be serious, I cut it out... but if I'm just having fun I often ramp it up, because it's 50/50 between people who "get it" and those that don't... I want the ones that do... any easy filter.

But the point is... just talk about crap, ask her what her favourite vegetable is, whatever.

Watch some Russell Brand video's on YouTube... he doesn't even need another person in the room to have a hilarious conversation with himself for 10 minutes.
 
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