Troubleshooting my openings (common issues)

[kalyan]

In the past 2 months the number of approaches i've made probably surpasses the number i made in the 100 months prior to it.. Around 70-80. I noticed a few recurring problems, some im very keen to answer (first one) some not as much.. Im sure it's very relatable to you all. (PS: im talking about cold approaches on the street and on campus.. All in morning. Im assuming these problems might be magnified at night)
1- On pre opening: i love this. Absolutely love touching girls to pre open and when done correctly it could be sexy. But I've had a big problem with this.. Many times, the girl i touch gets genuinely scared/ startled- you could tell from their face! One has even told me "who are you?".. Now i was able to turn around some cases, but generally this can't be a good thing. Any idea why this is happening? How would you do/ improve this?

2- This has happened to me just once, but still felt bad: i used a direct opener "i saw you standing here... " and it felt like a line.. I didnt feel genuine saying this (i've used it many times with success, but this happened once). Thoughts?
3- on opening "from behind": to be more broad, just opening in general when a girl is walking.. The way i do it is i let her pass me if we're walking opposite, then turn after a while, catch up with her, and preopen. I try to do it from the side, but still feels like it's from the behind. It scares them. (Coupled with point 1)
4- on eye contact: generally, what's the rules eye contact before initiating conversation? Im finding the whole "get her to look at you first" thing hard. Sure, it works in preopen, but otherwise i cant manage.

 

[SillyCarl]

I'm gonna give you my insights from what I've gathered mainly night game and a some day game approaches.

On pre-opening you just have to get the girl to look at you first. Generally what I've noticed is girls check you out regardless of what you do upon entering a venue if your an attractive guy already. Take campus approaches for instance I find it generally easier walking in the direction of the girl or if not say something to garner attention such as a Hey you or something similar then delivering your opener. I rarely go direct in day game only in night game where I would suggest going aggressive AF being aware of calibration of course

 

[Orelfius]

The point is to have the girl look at you first.

My favourite:
Standing side by side with the girl (over the fence of a bridge, or against a wall, whatever) and then say some kind of philosophical/meta/deep reflexion about the occasion or the location. (the plan is: you didn't open her, you were not talking to her, but then she pick up on what you said and open you about it)

If the place is really loud (like a bar/club), stand next to her and "hip bump" her from the side.

And in this clip with val kilmer in this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-b ... ore-lovers