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This is inspired partially by Daniel's most recent post about going for college girls but I have long wanted to talk about this because I did live the prototypical American "college experience" and because I've had guys PM me a good deal after my post about frat guys in a long thread which broke out with arguments. Since we do have an international crowd here, I cannot speak for college in Europe, I only speak for college in America and specifically the southeast.
A little bit about me.
I leaned more towards being a natural growing up, didn't really struggle with women, but was drawn to "game" because I struggled to get the kinds of girls I really wanted. Growing up I played sports and in college, I managed to get a bid for a decent fraternity. Now I went to an SEC school constantly ranked amongst the top for partying but this also meant that getting into a good fraternity that has serious status was tough. I am also kind of swarthy to where I look like Jimmy Garropolo so a lot of the guys in the top houses, usually old money southern boys, thought I was a "Mexican" (I am actually white). Despite all of that I still managed to have the "college experience".
In some ways it had its merits.
Being away from parents at 18, everything being "new" to you, being surrounded by people with too much free time, and unless you go to an engineering school you're around a lot of hot girls. Spring breaks, study abroad, friendships with cool guys, and parties that get filled with hot girls are special in their own right. You're young, allowed to be dumb, and there is a one of a kind fun factor associated with it. Maybe it was my age or maybe it was something else at the time but partying at that time was fun, it had a novelty factor to it given what we were dealing with in high school. Add in that youthful foolishness an community, it's special.
The social circle part of it can be tough to replicate.
You meet a girl, you click well, you eventually fuck, her friends want you too, some of your friends click with her friends, and one day you are on campus studying at a cafe as she is with you, smiling. If you hit your stride, knowing that you are a part of the in group has its own fulfillment to it, when top tier guys want to be friends with you and the hottest girls want to fuck you. The closed system of college, if you pull it off right, can have you feeling a bit fulfilled when you are more on the right end of it as opposed to the wrong end (incels).
Throwing a party and having a lot of hot girls and their friends attend? Way tougher to do after college.
I'd still be lying if I didn't tell you that few things are overhyped more in American society than college and shamed more than life after it.
I get it, there was a lot to love about college but it was a phase of life. You were on your own for once, around a lot of people your age, and experimenting for the first time. Your elders, Hollywood, media, and mainstream society hype up college like none other. For most people, college was far from American Pie or Neighbors, it was actually stressful.
Very few people could realistically experience it.
College was expensive and people go into debt for it. Frat guy and people in Greek Life had money, they normally came from wealthy families that could fuel their party lifestyle and pay for everything. Rich kids partied with other rich kids, that was Greek Life in a nutshell, the higher up you went on the Greek Hierarchy the more true it was. The only guys who broke this mold were student athletes there on a full ride scholarship or sketchy drug dealers, Good Looking Loser has a great piece on the college hierarchy.
Even the people in it were moving as they got closer to 21.
House parties stopped being cool after freshman year, everyone tried to go to the bars (using fake IDs quite often), and people were even past the social circle drama that formed in freshman year. Students longed for summers in a major city and partying there, they longed for traveling to exotic places, and they longed for "balling" instead of living off of their parents.
Outside of few select campuses, the girls were not really that hot.
Maybe Arizona St is tough to contend with. I went to a party school in the SEC, the hottest girls were in sororities. Most sororities were not hot but even those that were, it was almost a 30:70 split. Every sorority had its group of girls that were hot, the rest were mediocre, this was true even for the hottest sorority. Here is a link from Total Frat Move below:
archive.totalfratmove.com
Even among the top tier guys, very few were actually scoring as much as you think.
Most were tied down with an LTR or they got lucky here and there. Some might have lucked out and scored but even then, it was not as common as may have thought. Word got around too fast, especially with sororities, if a guy was the type to sleep around. Girls in the hottest sororities did not want to be seen as cum dumpsters, this meant you could easily get a "reputation" even if you were the well connected frat guy. The best opportunities came outside of frats but even most frat guys lack game.
The truth about life after it, especially in today's world.
You've been taught your whole life it is high school, then college, and then grown up world. I used to think that too but times have changed. While I might not get the same community that I got in college, I say that it is even easier to meet better looking women in a big city or a vacation spot. Social restrictions do not get in the way and your options are much more abundant. You are not just stuck gaming sorority blonde girls, you get more of a buffer in NYC and Miami than you do in Tempe.
People do not settle down like they used to, the average marriage age for a man in the US is close to 30. Nightclubs and so much in big cities gives you a chance to mingle and meet cool women. Avenues for making money exist and there are plenty of people who still have their good looks and no intentions of settling down.
For guys who always had it easy growing up and were handed things, it can be a rough adjustment. I was that guy and it was due to roommates that taught me what was possible and what could be that I saw the possibilities for life after college.
With college going online more and even the top employers not requiring a college degree, who knows what changes with college and its experience.
What I can say having experienced both ends is that while college life was fun, life in a big city with a prime location and some money is just as good.
Ever since people extended their adolescence, the fun can be endless even into your thirties. Women go out and are on the hunt for men. People party just as much unless COVID gets in the way. A hot guy has his pickings at the countless bars and areas in big cities. Women want to have their fun and travel too, it is not marriage by 25 for them.
All of the hottest sorority girls I follow on social media are living it up in big cities and are not settling down, despite being past the age of 25.
Go live on a party island and work there.
Go work a cool party job in Vegas.
Go become a DJ for fun if you get a shot at it.
It's all out there for you.
The question is, just like in college, are you good enough to get it? If not then continue to read this site until you get there.
A little bit about me.
I leaned more towards being a natural growing up, didn't really struggle with women, but was drawn to "game" because I struggled to get the kinds of girls I really wanted. Growing up I played sports and in college, I managed to get a bid for a decent fraternity. Now I went to an SEC school constantly ranked amongst the top for partying but this also meant that getting into a good fraternity that has serious status was tough. I am also kind of swarthy to where I look like Jimmy Garropolo so a lot of the guys in the top houses, usually old money southern boys, thought I was a "Mexican" (I am actually white). Despite all of that I still managed to have the "college experience".
In some ways it had its merits.
Being away from parents at 18, everything being "new" to you, being surrounded by people with too much free time, and unless you go to an engineering school you're around a lot of hot girls. Spring breaks, study abroad, friendships with cool guys, and parties that get filled with hot girls are special in their own right. You're young, allowed to be dumb, and there is a one of a kind fun factor associated with it. Maybe it was my age or maybe it was something else at the time but partying at that time was fun, it had a novelty factor to it given what we were dealing with in high school. Add in that youthful foolishness an community, it's special.
The social circle part of it can be tough to replicate.
You meet a girl, you click well, you eventually fuck, her friends want you too, some of your friends click with her friends, and one day you are on campus studying at a cafe as she is with you, smiling. If you hit your stride, knowing that you are a part of the in group has its own fulfillment to it, when top tier guys want to be friends with you and the hottest girls want to fuck you. The closed system of college, if you pull it off right, can have you feeling a bit fulfilled when you are more on the right end of it as opposed to the wrong end (incels).
Throwing a party and having a lot of hot girls and their friends attend? Way tougher to do after college.
I'd still be lying if I didn't tell you that few things are overhyped more in American society than college and shamed more than life after it.
I get it, there was a lot to love about college but it was a phase of life. You were on your own for once, around a lot of people your age, and experimenting for the first time. Your elders, Hollywood, media, and mainstream society hype up college like none other. For most people, college was far from American Pie or Neighbors, it was actually stressful.
Very few people could realistically experience it.
College was expensive and people go into debt for it. Frat guy and people in Greek Life had money, they normally came from wealthy families that could fuel their party lifestyle and pay for everything. Rich kids partied with other rich kids, that was Greek Life in a nutshell, the higher up you went on the Greek Hierarchy the more true it was. The only guys who broke this mold were student athletes there on a full ride scholarship or sketchy drug dealers, Good Looking Loser has a great piece on the college hierarchy.
Even the people in it were moving as they got closer to 21.
House parties stopped being cool after freshman year, everyone tried to go to the bars (using fake IDs quite often), and people were even past the social circle drama that formed in freshman year. Students longed for summers in a major city and partying there, they longed for traveling to exotic places, and they longed for "balling" instead of living off of their parents.
Outside of few select campuses, the girls were not really that hot.
Maybe Arizona St is tough to contend with. I went to a party school in the SEC, the hottest girls were in sororities. Most sororities were not hot but even those that were, it was almost a 30:70 split. Every sorority had its group of girls that were hot, the rest were mediocre, this was true even for the hottest sorority. Here is a link from Total Frat Move below:
Power Ranking The Hottest Sororities In America - Page 10 of 10 - The Total Frat Move Archive
Take a look at the top 10 hottest sororities in the country.
archive.totalfratmove.com
Even among the top tier guys, very few were actually scoring as much as you think.
Most were tied down with an LTR or they got lucky here and there. Some might have lucked out and scored but even then, it was not as common as may have thought. Word got around too fast, especially with sororities, if a guy was the type to sleep around. Girls in the hottest sororities did not want to be seen as cum dumpsters, this meant you could easily get a "reputation" even if you were the well connected frat guy. The best opportunities came outside of frats but even most frat guys lack game.
The truth about life after it, especially in today's world.
You've been taught your whole life it is high school, then college, and then grown up world. I used to think that too but times have changed. While I might not get the same community that I got in college, I say that it is even easier to meet better looking women in a big city or a vacation spot. Social restrictions do not get in the way and your options are much more abundant. You are not just stuck gaming sorority blonde girls, you get more of a buffer in NYC and Miami than you do in Tempe.
People do not settle down like they used to, the average marriage age for a man in the US is close to 30. Nightclubs and so much in big cities gives you a chance to mingle and meet cool women. Avenues for making money exist and there are plenty of people who still have their good looks and no intentions of settling down.
For guys who always had it easy growing up and were handed things, it can be a rough adjustment. I was that guy and it was due to roommates that taught me what was possible and what could be that I saw the possibilities for life after college.
With college going online more and even the top employers not requiring a college degree, who knows what changes with college and its experience.
What I can say having experienced both ends is that while college life was fun, life in a big city with a prime location and some money is just as good.
Ever since people extended their adolescence, the fun can be endless even into your thirties. Women go out and are on the hunt for men. People party just as much unless COVID gets in the way. A hot guy has his pickings at the countless bars and areas in big cities. Women want to have their fun and travel too, it is not marriage by 25 for them.
All of the hottest sorority girls I follow on social media are living it up in big cities and are not settling down, despite being past the age of 25.
Go live on a party island and work there.
Go work a cool party job in Vegas.
Go become a DJ for fun if you get a shot at it.
It's all out there for you.
The question is, just like in college, are you good enough to get it? If not then continue to read this site until you get there.
