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Since starting to approach girls last year, there have been 4 that have taken my breath away. She was one of them.
If you wanna avoid reading the whole thing, skip to sec. 2. I tried to condense everything, but these couple dates had a lot of content. This FR is a lot like Sam's from June btw.
I met a girl jogging while driving home from the gym on 7/7 at 9pm. I approached 5 girls, worked, and went to the gym, so my brain was frazzled.
Her description:
-18 y.o.
-5’7’’ 140lbs-ish
-Muscular build, but skinny waist and DD’s
-Tomboy and dominant attitude, yet quirky
-Long blonde hair with husky blue eyes
-Smart - took 9 classes last semester in high school! SHIT!
-Russian - I find these girls have a natural beauty to them. I met this girl on her workout and thought she looked stunning w/o makeup. I never saw her w/ makeup, but she must look even better with it on. She did not have the traditional Aryan blonde facial features, more Russian with chubbier cheeks.
Minutes before approaching her, I tried to pull over on the side of the road and approach another girl, but I couldn’t muster up the motivation. As the jogger passed me by, I walked back to my car, started it, and continued driving on the road. At the stoplight intersection, I saw a girl looking at me, but as I turned she looked away. The stoplight turned green, so I drove 6 blocks ahead and got out of the car. I approached her head-on.
Btw, this is the third girl I’ve dated with this method - it’s gold. Out of ANY approach I’ve done, this was the most surprised reaction!
Pt.1 The approach:
Took me a couple minutes walking to get her to calm down by being as low-energy as possible. This girl was off her rocker with energy and constantly busting my balls, like worse than my guy friends in high school. Turns out she just graduated from the same high school as me, but just moved to the area from out of state in August. When I asked how old she was, she did the same, and when I said 23, she said “great!” (later on I found out she’s been dating guys my age for 3 years). We walk around the park for 5 minutes, try light kinos, but she was nervous and did not comply well. I asked her if she wanted to have a protein shake sometime and she said coffee was better. When we walked across the street, she took my hand unexpectantly. At the car this strange conversation ensued as we exchanged numbers:
I bid my farewell and sent her an ice-breaker text a couple hours later with an enthusiastic response. I’m going to exclude it b/c it would be a huge waste to put b/c its pretty ridiculous. I looked her up on Facebook and I wasn’t surprised she had 1.5k friends and thousands of photos on public. PERFECT, I thought, this is exactly the type I need to practice on.
Three days later, I send a text bringing up our date, but she is going out of town for a week soon. I decide to pick the night right before she leaves b/c I probably will not get another shot with her. She might hook up with another guy and forget about me, so I had to take my chance then.
7/12 - First Date
I am waiting ouside the coffee shop at 7pm (still bright here in CA) texting people on my phone when she comes out and taps my shoulder. She wearing short-shorts, a low tank, and a hoodie over it. She was very nervous and started rambling on about stuff and apologizing for herself saying she wasn’t good at this ect. We split the bill for coffee and I enjoyed one of the easiest deep-diving sessions of my life, really easy to keep this girl on track (youngest I’ve ever dated). I offer that we should drive to the park and walk around. We get to the park, I get beach towels out of the car, and we hold each other’s waists the entire time. We do a short 15min hike in the woods, and go back to the grassy area where our car is. She called me out right b4 we get to the car:
For the record, in the coffeeshop, I told her I didn’t want to be in this area much longer and was looking for work in a different state in the US. Perhaps I was not clear enough with her.
Full Resistance - Gets out of my car
In the car she tells me how she’s fine with hooking up and loves doing it, but doesn’t do it right away. She said she needs to take her time to know someone before making that decision. I ignore her the whole time and am fumbling in the backseat of my car to find the water bottles I put earlier. A couple minutes later, I try man-handle kissing her the 1st time, but fail. I try again couple minutes after, and we kiss. She is surprised with the way I kiss because I am passionate and move my lips. She kisses like a dead fish (like the other Russian I fucked) and wants it slow. I start letting my hands travel around her body for a couple minutes till she gives me tongue. I start reaching for the crotch, but she opens her eyes and grabs my arms. I pull back and in that moment, we see a cat walk by so she gets out of the car to see it. I get the towels from the back seat and to catch up to her on the lawn. We spent about 30 min in the car, its 9pm now.
LMR - Says not on the first date
We lay in the middle lawn looking at the stars, but blocked off by the road by trees. Every time we kiss for awhile and I try escalating, she pulls back and snuggles me instead. We do this three times and on the last time says this:
She eventually comes back from chasing a cat and snuggles up to me again. Her mom calls her repeatedly b/c she is going on vacation the next morning. When she’s about to get in the car, I pull her close and give a long kiss, pull away, and give her a wink w/ a *click* sound. She gets mad b/c she says she’s usually the one to do a cheesy exit.
She texts me 30 min. after we depart saying she had a good time. Unsurprisingly, she asks to add me on Facebook (which I deny) and Snapchat. She starts snap chatting me her pictures, and I reply with pictures of my lamp with text LOL!
Throughout the week, I see status updates from her snapchat account of her with tons of dudes (later she says they are all gay….suuuuure). She snapchats me a couple times throughout the week, which I leave unresponded to maintain intrigue. The last thing I need is her getting satisfied that I’m chasing her on vacation and telling all her friends!
Pt. 2 7/19 LMR - Different Modes
I text her on Saturday, which she responded immediately. We set up to meet up in a parking lot around 8:30pm and hike around my side of town near a High School. We park in the high school parking lot and hike around for 30 min or so. Here’s something surprising - she apologizes for all the guys in her Snapchat updates and says they are all gay. The entire time she is busting my balls and teasing me. The last time that has happened was when I was in high school hanging with the bros. I learn a couple things about her while deep-diving:
-Stoner and party girl/gets faded every weekend
-Been dating guys my age since she was 15
-Says she doesn’t trust men aka 9-19 sexual partners
-She dates submissive/shy guys and takes her time with them. Has never met any guy as flirty/direct as me.
We go back to my car and get the towels before heading to the turf field in the back of the school. We start touring the school for 30min. or so before gong to the turf field. I start the escalation like last time with the same type of resistance - "No, not now. I don’t want to screw you on the field." It takes around 20 min. of escalating on the field to get my hands under her sweater to touch her stomach. It’s around 10pm and her mom calls, so I offer to help her drop off her car and drive her back to the field. When we get back we get into position again with me touching under her clothes.
THIS IS WHERE IT GETS BAD
She starts light touching me, I am almost cry holding back laughter and she senses it. Keeps busting my balls and tickling me on purpose to get me to stop escalating. I eventually get on top of her and get a good 5 min. make out session in until she gives me tongue. I reach for her ass while moving from one side of the jaw line to the other. I say one thing, while rubbing her crotch with my knee:
Immediately, she stops kissing me and opens her eyes. She grabs my arms and asks what I said. I say “nothing" and continue kissing her neck, but she gets up from under me and utters a sigh. She curls up in a ball and looks away from me. 10-15 long sec. pass before she says anything.
I immediately recognize the situation - we were on different wavelengths b/c of reading Sam’s FR a month earlier. I try being as tender as possible saying that we will work together to make her have a good experience. I said we were in different zones, me being passionate and her being slow/silent. I explained that I get in the mood with other partners by talking, touching, and passionately kissing. She explains her preferred method of escalation:
-Being completely silent
-Lie together for long periods of time until the tension hits
-Her being on top and dominating the escalation
-Slow touching/kissing
AKA the exact opposite where I do LOL
After a couple minutes of talking and soothingly getting her under control, I lie on top of her again and start escalating in her preferred way. Slowly kissing her, letting my hand barely touch her skin, breathing deeply, and not talking. Less than two minutes of this she says:
I try escalating, but have to pee in the bushes, so I had to leave for a couple minutes LOL! When I come back I get my hand in her pants to caress her ass, but every time I rub her pussy, her eyes open in anger and she tells me to stop. After 4-5 situations where she tells me to stop touching her pussy, she takes my hand out of her pants and tells us to leave. Then she says something that really put me over the edge:
Yeah, no s$%&. Way to kick a man while he’s down!!!!
She gets her towel and helps me gather everything together. We hold waists on the way back to the car and she’s really playful on the ride home - taking pictures of me, fucking around on the radio, trying to pull my e-brake, ect. When dropping her home, she gives a kiss the way I like and she says goodbye.
I texted her the next morning with a “you are a lot of fun” but with no response
Overview:
Even though she was the youngest girl I’ve ever dated, but she was one of the most experienced. I have had trouble with dominant, tomboy women before. I just couldn’t connect with her by flirting with chase or sexual frames - she got upset that I WAS THE ONE MAKING MOVES. Pull-push and push-pull worked remarkably well with her though, probably b/c it’s in-line with normal high school teasing.
I don’t think I could stand being with her in a relationship because of the partying, but everything else connected well (besides the LMR). I am disappointed I couldn’t seduce her in bed. It has been my life-long dream to bang a blonde bombshell my age. I do not think I can learn anything else from her - not sure if I should contact her or not.
What should I do? Do I stand a chance of bedding her?
If you wanna avoid reading the whole thing, skip to sec. 2. I tried to condense everything, but these couple dates had a lot of content. This FR is a lot like Sam's from June btw.
I met a girl jogging while driving home from the gym on 7/7 at 9pm. I approached 5 girls, worked, and went to the gym, so my brain was frazzled.
Her description:
-18 y.o.
-5’7’’ 140lbs-ish
-Muscular build, but skinny waist and DD’s
-Tomboy and dominant attitude, yet quirky
-Long blonde hair with husky blue eyes
-Smart - took 9 classes last semester in high school! SHIT!
-Russian - I find these girls have a natural beauty to them. I met this girl on her workout and thought she looked stunning w/o makeup. I never saw her w/ makeup, but she must look even better with it on. She did not have the traditional Aryan blonde facial features, more Russian with chubbier cheeks.
Minutes before approaching her, I tried to pull over on the side of the road and approach another girl, but I couldn’t muster up the motivation. As the jogger passed me by, I walked back to my car, started it, and continued driving on the road. At the stoplight intersection, I saw a girl looking at me, but as I turned she looked away. The stoplight turned green, so I drove 6 blocks ahead and got out of the car. I approached her head-on.
Btw, this is the third girl I’ve dated with this method - it’s gold. Out of ANY approach I’ve done, this was the most surprised reaction!
Pt.1 The approach:
Took me a couple minutes walking to get her to calm down by being as low-energy as possible. This girl was off her rocker with energy and constantly busting my balls, like worse than my guy friends in high school. Turns out she just graduated from the same high school as me, but just moved to the area from out of state in August. When I asked how old she was, she did the same, and when I said 23, she said “great!” (later on I found out she’s been dating guys my age for 3 years). We walk around the park for 5 minutes, try light kinos, but she was nervous and did not comply well. I asked her if she wanted to have a protein shake sometime and she said coffee was better. When we walked across the street, she took my hand unexpectantly. At the car this strange conversation ensued as we exchanged numbers:
I bid my farewell and sent her an ice-breaker text a couple hours later with an enthusiastic response. I’m going to exclude it b/c it would be a huge waste to put b/c its pretty ridiculous. I looked her up on Facebook and I wasn’t surprised she had 1.5k friends and thousands of photos on public. PERFECT, I thought, this is exactly the type I need to practice on.
Three days later, I send a text bringing up our date, but she is going out of town for a week soon. I decide to pick the night right before she leaves b/c I probably will not get another shot with her. She might hook up with another guy and forget about me, so I had to take my chance then.
7/12 - First Date
I am waiting ouside the coffee shop at 7pm (still bright here in CA) texting people on my phone when she comes out and taps my shoulder. She wearing short-shorts, a low tank, and a hoodie over it. She was very nervous and started rambling on about stuff and apologizing for herself saying she wasn’t good at this ect. We split the bill for coffee and I enjoyed one of the easiest deep-diving sessions of my life, really easy to keep this girl on track (youngest I’ve ever dated). I offer that we should drive to the park and walk around. We get to the park, I get beach towels out of the car, and we hold each other’s waists the entire time. We do a short 15min hike in the woods, and go back to the grassy area where our car is. She called me out right b4 we get to the car:
For the record, in the coffeeshop, I told her I didn’t want to be in this area much longer and was looking for work in a different state in the US. Perhaps I was not clear enough with her.
Full Resistance - Gets out of my car
In the car she tells me how she’s fine with hooking up and loves doing it, but doesn’t do it right away. She said she needs to take her time to know someone before making that decision. I ignore her the whole time and am fumbling in the backseat of my car to find the water bottles I put earlier. A couple minutes later, I try man-handle kissing her the 1st time, but fail. I try again couple minutes after, and we kiss. She is surprised with the way I kiss because I am passionate and move my lips. She kisses like a dead fish (like the other Russian I fucked) and wants it slow. I start letting my hands travel around her body for a couple minutes till she gives me tongue. I start reaching for the crotch, but she opens her eyes and grabs my arms. I pull back and in that moment, we see a cat walk by so she gets out of the car to see it. I get the towels from the back seat and to catch up to her on the lawn. We spent about 30 min in the car, its 9pm now.
LMR - Says not on the first date
We lay in the middle lawn looking at the stars, but blocked off by the road by trees. Every time we kiss for awhile and I try escalating, she pulls back and snuggles me instead. We do this three times and on the last time says this:
She eventually comes back from chasing a cat and snuggles up to me again. Her mom calls her repeatedly b/c she is going on vacation the next morning. When she’s about to get in the car, I pull her close and give a long kiss, pull away, and give her a wink w/ a *click* sound. She gets mad b/c she says she’s usually the one to do a cheesy exit.
She texts me 30 min. after we depart saying she had a good time. Unsurprisingly, she asks to add me on Facebook (which I deny) and Snapchat. She starts snap chatting me her pictures, and I reply with pictures of my lamp with text LOL!
Throughout the week, I see status updates from her snapchat account of her with tons of dudes (later she says they are all gay….suuuuure). She snapchats me a couple times throughout the week, which I leave unresponded to maintain intrigue. The last thing I need is her getting satisfied that I’m chasing her on vacation and telling all her friends!
Pt. 2 7/19 LMR - Different Modes
I text her on Saturday, which she responded immediately. We set up to meet up in a parking lot around 8:30pm and hike around my side of town near a High School. We park in the high school parking lot and hike around for 30 min or so. Here’s something surprising - she apologizes for all the guys in her Snapchat updates and says they are all gay. The entire time she is busting my balls and teasing me. The last time that has happened was when I was in high school hanging with the bros. I learn a couple things about her while deep-diving:
-Stoner and party girl/gets faded every weekend
-Been dating guys my age since she was 15
-Says she doesn’t trust men aka 9-19 sexual partners
-She dates submissive/shy guys and takes her time with them. Has never met any guy as flirty/direct as me.
We go back to my car and get the towels before heading to the turf field in the back of the school. We start touring the school for 30min. or so before gong to the turf field. I start the escalation like last time with the same type of resistance - "No, not now. I don’t want to screw you on the field." It takes around 20 min. of escalating on the field to get my hands under her sweater to touch her stomach. It’s around 10pm and her mom calls, so I offer to help her drop off her car and drive her back to the field. When we get back we get into position again with me touching under her clothes.
THIS IS WHERE IT GETS BAD
She starts light touching me, I am almost cry holding back laughter and she senses it. Keeps busting my balls and tickling me on purpose to get me to stop escalating. I eventually get on top of her and get a good 5 min. make out session in until she gives me tongue. I reach for her ass while moving from one side of the jaw line to the other. I say one thing, while rubbing her crotch with my knee:
Immediately, she stops kissing me and opens her eyes. She grabs my arms and asks what I said. I say “nothing" and continue kissing her neck, but she gets up from under me and utters a sigh. She curls up in a ball and looks away from me. 10-15 long sec. pass before she says anything.
I immediately recognize the situation - we were on different wavelengths b/c of reading Sam’s FR a month earlier. I try being as tender as possible saying that we will work together to make her have a good experience. I said we were in different zones, me being passionate and her being slow/silent. I explained that I get in the mood with other partners by talking, touching, and passionately kissing. She explains her preferred method of escalation:
-Being completely silent
-Lie together for long periods of time until the tension hits
-Her being on top and dominating the escalation
-Slow touching/kissing
AKA the exact opposite where I do LOL
After a couple minutes of talking and soothingly getting her under control, I lie on top of her again and start escalating in her preferred way. Slowly kissing her, letting my hand barely touch her skin, breathing deeply, and not talking. Less than two minutes of this she says:
I try escalating, but have to pee in the bushes, so I had to leave for a couple minutes LOL! When I come back I get my hand in her pants to caress her ass, but every time I rub her pussy, her eyes open in anger and she tells me to stop. After 4-5 situations where she tells me to stop touching her pussy, she takes my hand out of her pants and tells us to leave. Then she says something that really put me over the edge:
Yeah, no s$%&. Way to kick a man while he’s down!!!!
She gets her towel and helps me gather everything together. We hold waists on the way back to the car and she’s really playful on the ride home - taking pictures of me, fucking around on the radio, trying to pull my e-brake, ect. When dropping her home, she gives a kiss the way I like and she says goodbye.
I texted her the next morning with a “you are a lot of fun
” but with no response Overview:
Even though she was the youngest girl I’ve ever dated, but she was one of the most experienced. I have had trouble with dominant, tomboy women before. I just couldn’t connect with her by flirting with chase or sexual frames - she got upset that I WAS THE ONE MAKING MOVES. Pull-push and push-pull worked remarkably well with her though, probably b/c it’s in-line with normal high school teasing.
I don’t think I could stand being with her in a relationship because of the partying, but everything else connected well (besides the LMR). I am disappointed I couldn’t seduce her in bed. It has been my life-long dream to bang a blonde bombshell my age. I do not think I can learn anything else from her - not sure if I should contact her or not.
What should I do? Do I stand a chance of bedding her?
