Underweight men

[Rain]

Are there any, by BMI scale, underweight men who have long term monogamous '10s' so to speak? Mystery was skinny but I wouldn't think he was underweight on a BMI scale. I'm underweight, with anxiety and irritable bowel syndrome, eating more food is not really an option. Happy to talk about that in another thread, but that is not what this thread is about.

If I'm stuck at this weight, I might as well approach and do my best, its all up to me right? eg if you can be underweight by a fair few lbs and get '10s' then you can, and if you can't you can't. Bare in mind, I'm talking about long term girlfriend material, not just a one night stand, where someones ideal lifelong partner desires may not matter so much. Perhaps I've answered my own question, I was a bit unsure if I should start this thread.

 

[readjusting]

My man,
I used to be 135 lbs when I started picking up. Now I'm 143 lbs, better but still be underweight by most people's standard.

Just think this way:
Approach is better than no approach.
Confidence is better than no confident.
Dressing well is better than dressing badly.
etc.
Muscle is better than no muscle, but it takes a few years to build decent muscle. So hit the gym. Meanwhile, go approach because approach is better than no approach.

 

[Inbocca]

Rain,

It's easy to get stuck in the hole of "I need to improve _____ before I see results with girls"; and even if it's true, once you get _____ you're still going to realize it's hardly easier than it was before you had it. The most valuable thing is experience, and that only comes through practice.

So eat (really eat, like until you're full and then some), lift big (if you can do a full set of 12 reps you're not going heavy enough), and approach anyway. I went from underweight to a healthy weight and it helped 0% with my approach. It just gets you more IOIs that you don't know how to capitalize on.


CKTC,

Same. I was 140 when I started eating and working out more, within 2 months I got up to 165 (also super tall so I was really underweight). Two protein shakes a day really helped. Still got about 25-30 lbs to go though.

 

[uForia]

I am around 6' and I used to be 138 lbs before working out. 6 months later, I'm 154 lbs but I'm still skinny and chestless compared to other men. On my vacation in New York, I approached 4 women and 2 of them were decently receptive. I didn't have muscles nor was I even wearing good clothes, the fashion was definitely below average for NYC. As men, we like to emphasize the physical, concrete fundamentals. But from my experience, It seems like your vibe and other non-concrete fundamentals and game also combine together to determine your value as a guy. Like other people said, best thing to do is approach women you like without much regard for your fundamentals when you're there and there.

 

[Michal]

Hello,

I agree with what Inbocca said, simply because that was my experience also. But, in terms of attracting and having "10s" as your long term girlfriend, we all have a different 10. Like, if your 10 is hardcore into fitness and trains 6 times a week, I can only wish you good luck getting her because you would have to be so exceptional in other areas that you being skinny wound be overshadowed by that. And this goes with lots of things, we humans are quite complex in this regard and we weigh our standards differently. Just think butts vs. boobs.

I met my 10 and she was into me. While I was skinny, had a very rough month and my mood was fucked up. And I just fucked it up with her because of my seduction inexperience. But like Inbocca said, your body language, vibe, how you carry yourself is more important. Not showing neediness, not being star struck by her beauty, not putting her on the pedestal because of that, not chasing after her, not suplicating, being undecisive, insecure or poisonous to be around and not living life on your terms.

We instinctively know that buff dude > skinny dude but that does not mean buff dude is better. He just has better physique. That is just one trait. It took me some time but being skinny is not bad, like a crime kind of bad or disgusting. To some girls, it is but they are minority. And I think you need to look at it the same way because otherwise women will smell your insecurity in this area. And I guess your "10" is a secure person herself and is not bothered that she has a slim pear figure and not a perfect hourglass figure (just an example). What helped me was that I live in central Europe and the kind of people I like dont mind me being skinny, they dont care. So I naturally am in the right company and pass by those who are not

You are an advertisement to the kind of life you lead. If you are unsatisfied, it probably means your life sucks. But if you are happy, then it is probably worth living AND sharing with someone (a girl). So, work on the aspects you can change and accept the ones that you cannot.

 

[readjusting]

What happen if the chick brings that up?
A quick fix is self-deprecating if you don't have muscle yet.

Like today I met a fitness nut, and she asked me if I went to the gym.
I jokingly said, "Yeah, I go to the gym a lot. Gotta have muscle."
And flexing my arm.
My bicep was smaller than the girl's.
She then talked a lot about how I should go to the gym more, I should eat more, etc. etc. etc.
I listened, acknowledged, and changed topic.

Outside, you show that you don't care.
Inside, you care. Get muscle.

 

[Rain]

Good to see some stats! I'm a little less weight than what you all have posted. I did see a guy sleeves rolled halfway up his upper arm was as skinny as me and was holding hands with a skinny or average woman. With butts vs boobs, it's like one day I want one, and the next day I want the other. So 'my 10' sort of may vary a bit. Secure in herself yes, but has to be somewhat attractive before hand to find out if they secure.

I haven't put this as completley out of my control, without details anxiety/ibs stuffs your appetite. Others with anxiety sometimes eat more as opposed to less. If a time comes I have to accept it, then I would accept it. I can think of two women whom I would consider having a long term relationship with, I'm not saying they're perfect 10s but they did have attractive features about them, along with personality/connection. It probably won't be one of those two specifically as I stuffed things up with them, just saying that, I went through enough numbers and if I do that again I may meet some more like those two. But I dunno I also tend to want what I can't have or change what I want so maybe other issues there.

That's interesting Inbocca that you got more IOI, perhaps demonstrating it did help increase your pool of available women who are interested. But as you and others say, you still have to approach them and know how to have a conversation and move things forwrard and not be insecure.

Icecream, did you end up getting that womans number when she said you should eat more? Or was she flat not keen?

 

[readjusting]

I didn't get the number, but yeah, could have done better.

 

[Rain]

I didn't get the number, but yeah, could have done better.

Reminded me of something and possible answer to your earlier post how to handle it. I met a woman a few years ago from online, and I think she liked me but she was a bit too not my type, anyway she was willing to 'give an extra hand' lets say. Anyway, we got to talking, and she was going to say something but backed out of it. I said it's okay, you can say it.

Her: "You're an alright looking guy, but jeez you got a big nose!"
Me: *taps my nose with pointing finger gesture* "No one knows noses, like me!" * I smiled and looked at her may have riased eyebrows couple times*
Her: *She smiled back* and said "See I knew it wouldn't bother you!"

So perhaps that is a way to show you are secure in it yourself with xyz flaw?

 

[Greco]

Dude, chill. Skinny can be sexy. Look rockstars.

What you need to do is lift some weights for your biceps. You arms will start to get toned and your veins will start to pop.
For some reason arms with veins look way cooler and sexy than smooth arms. Also do push-ups. Your aim is to be toned.

Dress with edge and adopt a style that says for you could be Slash or Cobain. Have great posture and wear accessories on your hands.
Also your abs will be easy with exercise to show. Low fat percentage is the most important factor about that.

-John