LR ..... unwanted golden night

[maximus6004]

Sometimes we learn.lessons the hard way, this night I definitely learned a lesson the hard way, and thats not to take home girls that have been drinking im over it... so over it.

Another night at the bar, not wanting.to go out but forcing myself too lead to some awkward moments and some awesome moments. It was dead for this bar as its my.local hole to go and find pretty country girls. If you ever had a regular place to go to, you would understand when I say it was just a different crowd.

I began by walking around and taking to all the people I knew, and actually being introduced to a cute girl that a buddy of mine had known. So I walked around the bar and posted up until she walked past me and kind of opened me with a short question that I can't remember at this moment. So I told her to walk with me.

Me"so whats your deal? You and my buddy have a thing?"
Her"no, why, are you being his wing man?"
Me"no, im actually curious for myself"
Her"oh" starts playing with her hair and moves it over to the side shpwing her neck towards me.
Me"you are kind of shy huh? Thats going to be negative points on your part."
Her"she laughs, look at this chick pver over here, 50 years old and looks like she dressed back.in highschool."
Me"can you stop talkin about ny future wife like that..... they say woman relate dancing to sex, so what about this guy over here how would you rate him"

She.just.nervously laughs then I start deep diving her. Motorcycle from.california adrenaline junky. My buddy comes over a little bit jealous.

Him" qhy dont you just give him your number already...."
Me"thatd a good idea, hands my phone.to.her."
she stares at me.like she isnt going to do it I stare back and turn the phone back on and she looks at it and types her number in. Cool my buddy even more jealous takes her out dancing. Thabks bro, I closed you can have her so.I can continue on with my night.

Second girl..its towards the end of.the night, and to save time I deep dived her and she is about to start stripping her in town. Cool a stripper I thought to myself! Nice body, her face is lacking but shes do able. So we start talking and she is a bit drunk comes around and starts biting me.playfully and is all over me all night, so I make the pull.

Me"man you are a horny drunk girl"
Her"I am, what do you have in mind?"
Me"my place"
Her"well obviously, but whar do you have in.mind... "
Me"lol what do you have in mind?"
Her"I used to sleep with a guy who liked pain and could only cum if I.made him bleed from digging my fingers into his back"
Me"you are going to get bored with me, im not into that stuff"
Her"well just dominate me then"
Her"obly if you are bad"

We get back to my place have a nornal conversation have sex and then pass out. Then it happened.... im like what the fuck is that, 4a.m. I wake up she has a death grip around me, and is drunk. She is peeing on me! What the fuck im trying to squirm away like C wake up.... C! Of course she is in a drunken coma abd I finally escape after she is finished.... I was so mad took a shower left her in my bed and slept on the couch.... so yea this is why im not inviting girls over who have been drinking because they will piss on you.... lol wtf. Smh def an experience for the books.

Either way I.left a note as I left for work for her to throw my sheets into the washing machine throw my comforter out and to use the shampooer that I had set up to clean her mess up when she woke up.

She recently text me and is veinging over a brand new comforter. But yupp, y'all enjoy your thursday morning laugh, I received a golden shower and didnt want it. I was raped.lol

 

[Franco]

Re: LR..... unwanted golden night

maximus,

We get back to my place have a nornal conversation have sex and then pass out. Then it happened.... im like what the fuck is that, 4a.m. I wake up she has a death grip around me, and is drunk. She is peeing on me! What the fuck im trying to squirm away like C wake up.... C! Of course she is in a drunken coma abd I finally escape after she is finished.... I was so mad took a shower left her in my bed and slept on the couch.... so yea this is why im not inviting girls over who have been drinking because they will piss on you.... lol wtf. Smh def an experience for the books.

Either way I.left a note as I left for work for her to throw my sheets into the washing machine throw my comforter out and to use the shampooer that I had set up to clean her mess up when she woke up.

She recently text me and is veinging over a brand new comforter. But yupp, y'all enjoy your thursday morning laugh, I received a golden shower and didnt want it. I was raped.lol

I couldn't help but laugh a bit, here! I can't honestly say I've ever received a golden shower from a girl, but I imagine she would have to be absolutely wasted for it to happen! It sounds like just another crazy night out (with a fetish-crazy stripper).

But anyway, you'll always get a very mixed bag with women who are borderline blacked out, and that mixed bag multiplies when you're pulling highly sexual women like strippers or escorts. They've seen all kinds of crazy shit, so you never know what they're gonna do or say. It can be fun on occasion, but if it's something you've been exposing yourself to pretty often, you'll end up feeling like drunk women just aren't worth the pain and hassle of taking home.

Sounds like it was a story you won't forget though! =)

- Franco

 

[maximus6004]

Re: LR..... unwanted golden night

Lol yea I dont think she meant to do it intentionally she was just that wasted. I.woke up feeling I was being sorayed with a hose and.I tried waking.her up.and she was knocked out and had me.in a death grip from.cuddling me I was trying to get away but.it wasnt until she was finished that I ended up getting out.of bed. Lolol its just, uea she is a freak though but god I could have used without the bath..... glad you got a laugh at this im laughing now but not last night.

 

[Gentle_Phrases]

Re: LR..... unwanted golden night

LOL

 

[Chase]

Maximus-

Really fun report here. Contains some real gems.

Me"so whats your deal? You and my buddy have a thing?"
Her"no, why, are you being his wing man?"
Me"no, im actually curious for myself"
Her"oh" starts playing with her hair and moves it over to the side shpwing her neck towards me.
Me"you are kind of shy huh? Thats going to be negative points on your part."
Her"she laughs, look at this chick pver over here, 50 years old and looks like she dressed back.in highschool."
Me"can you stop talkin about ny future wife like that..... they say woman relate dancing to sex, so what about this guy over here how would you rate him"

All this dialogue is great; particularly how you handled her asking if you were being your buddy's wingman. Very direct, and very smooth.

Him" qhy dont you just give him your number already...."
Me"thatd a good idea, hands my phone.to.her."
she stares at me.like she isnt going to do it I stare back and turn the phone back on and she looks at it and types her number in. Cool my buddy even more jealous takes her out dancing. Thabks bro, I closed you can have her so.I can continue on with my night.

Outstanding. He really tried to throw you off here, and you just went with it.

Me"man you are a horny drunk girl"
Her"I am, what do you have in mind?"
Me"my place"
Her"well obviously, but whar do you have in.mind... "
Me"lol what do you have in mind?"

Great - direct, to the point, still very playful. Lively dialogue here.

Her"I used to sleep with a guy who liked pain and could only cum if I.made him bleed from digging my fingers into his back"
Me"you are going to get bored with me, im not into that stuff"
Her"well just dominate me then"

Excellent setting of the frame here by you - again, unfazed by the strange remark by her, rolling right with the punches and throwing up a barrier: "You are going to get bored with me; I'm not into that stuff..." that she promptly climbs over and leaves the door wide open for you: "Well just dominate me then."

That's what barriers do best: give girls a chance to help you solve the logistics or specifics of them sleeping with you.

Then it happened.... im like what the fuck is that, 4a.m. I wake up she has a death grip around me, and is drunk. She is peeing on me! What the fuck im trying to squirm away like C wake up.... C! Of course she is in a drunken coma abd I finally escape after she is finished.... I was so mad took a shower left her in my bed and slept on the couch.... so yea this is why im not inviting girls over who have been drinking because they will piss on you.... lol wtf. Smh def an experience for the books.

Haha... that's the kind of thing that makes you want to sleep on plastic sheets (or maybe wear a raincoat to bed).

If you've been picking up girls regularly and you've had the same mattress for a while, it basically becomes unsaleable with all the stains from various kinds of fluids that end up on it after a long enough period of time. Just another battle scar for your bed, I suppose...

Enjoyable report.

Chase

 

[maximus6004]

Thanks Chase. If you get this message I have a question for you. I know how you wrote in the article about being hungry enough, and noticing that a lot of guys you used to get advice from are now taking it from you. Ive been working on myself and seduction for 6 or 7 years now and when I started I was super overweight, shy, stuttered couldny even look a girl or anyone in the eyes. The last two years it finally kicked off and I have had a lot of success with seduction because of this site so thank you for that.

However sometimes, its like, ill do really well with woman and other nights not well at all. Thos obviously depends on the factors of the approach how the girl is feeling, how she feels about you and many other factors that just happen to be around. I was talking with one of the guys about this and he stated sometimes you can do everything right but if you have a reputation it wont matter sometimes. I kinda got nahry about this and just mass dumped all five girls I was talking to because.

1) one was married and lied about it
2) another was engaged and lied about it and her dude followed her to my house and confronted her.... awkward
3) would only call me when she wanted to and would show up drunk only wanting to sleep with me drunk.probably because she could tell everyone I just took advantage of her drunk.
4) just because I was mad at all the situations
5) ended up pursuing.me hard and talked to her again

All of this though, some would argue who cares if you get ass then forget the other parts. All these girls I had fun times with too. Then we have to factor in that it wont always last forever before someone wants to move things forward and then you catch feelings and know she isnt right for you so you cut her loose.others would argue the decision you have to make is up to you and you should assume no matter what you are right in your decision.

Where do you draw the line though between being too cocky with your decisions and need to.improve yourself. As a leader, you stated in the article that you have to be a man and just take charge which you do sometimes but not being able to really relate to anyone on this subject it feels.like you are driving down a dirt road with no map and have to decide left or right and hope you dont go barreling over a cliff to your death.

Wpuld love some more insight on this.

 

[Chase]

Hey Maximus-

Before I dive in, by the way, I've noticed you often forget the colon ) after your FR / LR prefixes on field reports (then Franco or I go back and add them in to keep the Boards orderly). Can you add these in when you title reports, so they're FR: [title] or LR: [title] or FR++: [title], etc.? Makes everything a little bit easier for guys who are skimming the boards and less crazy to look at.

Seems like there are a couple of different questions in here(?):

However sometimes, its like, ill do really well with woman and other nights not well at all. Thos obviously depends on the factors of the approach how the girl is feeling, how she feels about you and many other factors that just happen to be around.

All of this though, some would argue who cares if you get ass then forget the other parts. All these girls I had fun times with too.

Where do you draw the line though between being too cocky with your decisions and need to.improve yourself. As a leader, you stated in the article that you have to be a man and just take charge which you do sometimes but not being able to really relate to anyone on this subject it feels.like you are driving down a dirt road with no map and have to decide left or right and hope you dont go barreling over a cliff to your death.

So unless I'm misreading, it's:

• What's it take to get relatively consistent?
• Is it better to seek happiness/comfort/pleasure, or harshness/challenge/improvement?
• Are you being too full of yourself in booting out these girls you had problems with - should you be more content / less exacting in your standards?

Assuming those are the questions, my answers'd be:

Consistency: this one's a factor of fundamentals, reference points / experience level, and environment. The guy who packs on 30 lbs. of muscle will be more consistent after that muscle goes on than he was before it. The guy who's experienced a wide range of various seduction situations will be more consistent than he was when he'd experienced far fewer of them. And the guy who frequents hookup bars, or is living overseas somewhere he's considered exotic and sexy, or rolls with a group of friends who continually introduce him to hot new girls in a way that makes him out to be sexy and high status - any of those guys is going to be more consistent than guys who don't operate in environments like this (or combine several of those to blow his consistency through the roof).

How hard you go is another one that greatly impacts consistency, because of asymmetric returns - if you hit it off with, I don't know, 1 out of 8 girls you approach, and you only approach 4 or 5 girls at a time, you'll have stretches where it seems like you're on fire because every time you go out for several nights in a row you hit it off with one or two girls each time, and you'll have stretches where it feels like you're in a slump because every time you go out for several nights in a row you get nothing but cold shoulders each time, but this is really just random variation. If you adopt a goal like, "I am going to keep approaching until I find a girl I really hit it off with every time I go out," on the other hand, you will become more consistent almost every night, because then you'll just do the approaches to make it happen no matter what, whether that's 2 approaches or 20.

When you do that, the number of "good nights" you have dramatically increases, while the number of "bad nights" you have dramatically decreases, because now you're playing the odds (essentially, a rejection costs you very little, while finding a girl you hit it off with is a big win, so you just keep going until you get the big win and all the previous little losses are instantly erased, making it a good night even if you stomached 27 rejections before you met the girl you took home).

So if you want consistency, I'd look at those 4 things:

• What can I do to level up my fundamentals?
• What can I do to increase my level of exposure to novel seduction scenarios?
• What can I do to put myself in an environment more conducive to me getting attraction / getting laid?
• What can I do to balance out random variation and make sure I find a girl I hit it off with?

Other things like getting better at targeting play a big role too, but these are shoot offs of other things (like upping your experience levels, which allow you to more easily read which girls are likely to be open to or interested in you).

Comfort vs. improvement: it's a choice every man must make for himself. We all have different priorities, different dispositions, and different things that matter to us, and no one can tell you to stop and do the other before you're ready to, and no one can tell you to start and do something if you don't want to. This one's a personal judgment call. Enjoy what you've got, or learn to get more and better? Ultimately up to you. Don't rule out taking breaks to enjoy, and then getting back on the improvement curve once you start getting restless, too.

Too cocksure in giving girls the boot?: this one's also a "well, it depends on the guy" sort of thing. What I would LIKE to tell you is that you can always boot girls out and find someone better later; however, it very much depends on 1.) where you're meeting women, and 2.) whether you present the kind of value as a partner that the women you want are looking for.

Most of the guys I see who learn pickup are the "I'm great at relationships and the ideal boyfriend, but I can't actually GET girls to save my life" types that women decline sex with forever, then hold onto with iron claws once they actually end up with these guys. However, you also sometimes see guys who are great at picking up and sleeping with girls, but whom women don't really want to keep around later, and the ongoing relationships they have tend to be messy and/or with women who are "broken" because those are the girls that hang around for them. I can't tell if you face the latter problem or not (have trouble hanging onto girls you'd label "quality girlfriend material"), or if just because you're picking up girls mostly in bars you're just getting these women who are problematic in relationships and not the types you want to hang onto.

However, my read here is that you're picking up lots of girls from bars and enjoying being with them but they're not really the kinds of girls you want to keep around or keep seeing, and now you're wondering if you're being too picky? In that case, I'd encourage you to start day gaming a lot more and see what you can get with the less party-centric crowd. It's kind of like night and day when you first start dating women who don't party much (or at all) if you're used to dating party girls... the level of drama (much lower), the level of nurturing/warmth (generally higher), and the level of oddball weird shit like husbands showing up at your apartment (almost doesn't happen) are all quite different with girls you meet via daytime who don't party.

If you do this though, you'll probably find you need to change up and tone down your game and find other things to talk about than what you usually do (e.g., can't be as sexually direct; usually won't want to talk about bars/clubs/drinking, because if you do you'll screen in party girls and screen out the non-party girls who are better for less-insane relationships), so it'll be a learning curve.

Chase

 

[maximus6004]

I.will definitely start changing the way I.post my.topics.

Makes a lot of sense. I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me, and quickly. Usually I am finding woman as flight attendants and at bars so yea not the most stable part of girls to have around they are all in their own world!

The biggest lesson is going to be the dialing it down a notch for these girls in the day game. Thats probably where I have been messing it up. Anyways thabks a lot for the advice.