Verbal push-pull- Your views on Chase's article?

[Ryan]

I was reading this article https://www.girlschase.com/content/tactics-tuesdays-push-pull-getting-girls and here, Chase gives some examples on what verbal push-pull is.

"You're totally not my type, you're way too much of a tough girl. But if you had a sweet spot, you'd probably be my kind of girl."

Girl: 'Who does this guy think he is? I'm not changing myself for you, or anyone. If you want a sweet girl, then leave me alone and find one.'

"Come here, let me see your cute face. Nope, never mind, you look way too much like a little girl for me, I'm no pedophile."

(wtf?)

that's also sort of a compliment (telling a girl she looks young won't hurt her feelings, trust me)

Yeah..if she was someone's granny. I know girls my age well enough to know that if you tell them they look (too) young for you, they think you have a superiority complex and they will hate you. They want to look like women, not like high school girls again. (In fact, they dress in such a way to make people believe they are older).


I'm totally aware that one would only utilise push-pull once the woman showed a little interest and was starting to chase you, but from the examples given (and hence the whole topic of Chase's view on verbal push-pull), i'm quite sure she'll tell me to get off my high horse and auto-reject.
Can you imagine if a woman said explicitly that you weren't worthy enough for her, because you had a babyface? Well, fuck you dear. (A while ago, a woman said the same thing to me. She said she liked me but my arms were too skinny. That wasn't nice).

What is the forum's view on Chase's idea of verbal push-pull?

In a sentence, I question Chase's view on verbal push-pull, because it seems like a sure way to push your attainability down rock-bottom and her auto-rejecting; causing her to think you're a self-entitled idiot.

 

[Richard]

Ryan,

It's all about how you deliver a statement.

Fundamentals are everything.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Give it a shot and see what happens Ryan. I don't think Chase would put it in a article if he hadn't used it himself successfully.

I see where your coming from it sounds counter intuitive/ a little on the asshole side but as we know both of those things usually work in our advantage in seduction anyway.

If you try it out let us know how it goes!

-Rob

 

[Ryan]

To give Chase the benefit of the doubt, maybe he just used the wrong examples. I get what he's trying to say throughout the article, but those examples just don't sound subtle or socially elegant- which i assume is hard to convey through writing alone.

 

[Richard]

Ryan,

We're the same age group, and I'll tell you that this works just as well with girls in our age group than with women of an older age group. 18-21 year olds bite the same way 22-26 year olds do, who bite the same way as 27+ who bite the same way as.... you get the picture...

The problem guys have with push-pull is doesn't feel "safe" for them to do, and they are afraid of sending girls into "perceived" auto-reject, when in reality almost all girls fall for push-pull exactly the same. Remember, at the end of the day, all girls are cute and silly, no matter who they are or what they do.

It takes balls (at first) to use this, but eventually it just becomes another tool in your arsenal. <--- Girls love guys who display confidence, self-esteem, and self-assurance, and utilizing push pull shows all of those qualities.

I've used this with girls from ages 19-26, and even on my current GF who is 22; it works bro, trust me

-Richard

 

[Thedoctor]

Ryan,

I've seen EVERYTHING workfor openers or just general conversation. The push/pull thing and negs really aren't my style so I've never used em much. I'm kind of an abrasive, very direct individual and using those would probably just be too much in most cases.

It's just one more thing to add to your arsenal. I would suggest experimenting with it and see if you can incorporate it, but if it makes you uncomfortable to read it, you'll be uncomfortable in your delivery. Not everyone is going to use every single tactic out there. You pick and choose what works best for you after trying everything out.

Chase`s examples may seem like a bit much at first, but it's amazing what you can say with proper delivery as Rob and Z noted.

-Doc