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TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hey Gents!

Got another almost, but she has proven much more hooked than any others so far.

I met this girl yesterday at a mall while getting some food. I noticed she was cute and she was holding a sample of chicken I just had (it was really awesome, it brought us both in haha), so I asked her if that's what brought her in, and quickly learned English isn't her first language. I placed my order and leaned against the counter and when she came over, I chatted with her, asking if she worked in the mall, come to find out she's a student and from Vietnam (somewhere in here I touched her shoulder and I like to hold a girl's hand for a moment during introductions). When my food was done, I simply told her (like I do for 90% of girls), she seemed cool and asked if she'd like to hang out some time. I actually didn't understand her response at first, I thought she turned me down, so I quietly said bye (being unsure), grabbed a napkin and chopsticks then just went back to make sure I heard her right. Turned out I had it wrong and she did want to meet (obviously haha). Got her number, asked about her schedule, then said we'd figure something out and left.

I texted her once I got to my table, asking what she was up to the rest of the day, but she was busy (gunning for a third same-day ;) ), and she kept texting me (I generally ask a girl for her schedule within 3 texts, but she didn't know yet, tips for killing things so you don't get text-interviewed?) and eventually she asked me about age (I thought she was like 30, so I was worried about this sinking things), I simply said "Old enough", but she said "enough??", so I asked her how old she thought I was (after reading an article Ambiant linked me, thanks man!) and she said 27, so I said, "Close","28" (I'm 21 ;D). She wanted me to guess her age, so I asked for a picture to guess better, so she sent a (well behaved) one and I teased about her not asking me for nudes, but come to find out, teasing a girl who doesn't know English well doesn't end...well... I pushed the envelope a bit and said everything from the 3 step sexting article(probably shouldn't have, but I was seeing how far I could go). Eventually she said she only does that for "boyfriend" and she just wants to "Be friends and I don't want the way nudes and sex before, ok ?" (thought I was talking to Starfire the whole time :p). I hit her with saying we definitely aren't having sex on the first date (may have hurt me today :p), and she said more of "no sex, just dating to understand", which I responded with saying how I love making girls feel amazing, it's so natural and fun, but she isn't getting any the first date (she was quite confused about this haha). I followed that up with a goodnight text and asked her to let me know what her Friday will look like.

She texted me "Good morning" and I responded and asked how her day looks. Come to find out she is off today (and I had an excuse to ask my dad when he would get home, finding out I had until 3, with my mom and bro at school), so I made quite a push to get her to come straight over by downplaying it and such, but in the end, I threw out a Starbucks 2 minutes away and she agreed to 11:30 (somewhere I said I had until 2, wanted a buffer so there were no awkward walk ins...) because she had to shower and I teased, "Trying to look nice for me? ;)" and she finally understood this as being playful.

Showtime!
I arrive a few minutes late, but still a few minutes before her. She's wearing a nice, flowing cream one piece thing, with flourishes at the sleeves and legs, which had a relatively deep cut (she is maybe 5'3", thin, B-C cup, with a decent rear, with a slightly tanned, Asian complexion, she actually looks Chinese when she put her glasses on, for those who care haha). I walk up and give her a hug, blah blah blah (I honestly forgot most of the dialogue, it was fun and new working through language barriers, but nothing stuck to my memory), we go in, I let her go in front of me and lallygag looking at stuff so she bought her own stuff without the need to mention anything. Then we go outside, I try to focus on laying back, then really engaging at higher points (thanks Ambiant), the conversation was really lacking for me, as I can deep dive or go on forever, but language barriers man.

When we finished our food, she gathered the garbage and threw it away herself (reminded me of how the girls from those cultures are), I mentioned my dog while trying to have her come straight to my home, and found out she loves dogs, so that was an easy excuse to go back to my place (no resistance). The transition was weird with apartment parking, but eventually we were at my home and the gears shifted a bit ;)

Turned out my dog adored her and she liked him too (so much that I was worried my dog would cockblock me...), I sat on the couch in my room and she sat on the edge of my bed and played with my dog, I eventually moved over to my bed and tried building up touch more (it came off clunky at first, just need to maintain absolute confidence with it). She dodged my first kiss attempt, but I laughed it off and she tried giving me her no sex today thing, and I tried threadcutting (working on that), mentioning we were having a good time and I'd only go as far as she was comfortable. I leaned back on my pillows and tried to get her to move from her one spot, which took a couple tries, but she finally layed against my pillows(the throw pillows were still between us). My arm was behind her from now on, she slowly rested her head back and eventually I moved the throw pillows "to let my dog sit there" (while conviently pulling us a little closer at the same time). I eventually kissed again but was met with dead lips so I thought nothing of it and continued to talk.

Eventually she was a few inches from me and my arm was fully around her shoulder and she was resting on it. Throughout this, I played with her right hand with mine, and slowly ramped up rubbing her arm with my left. I tried kissing a little later, this time slower and more warmly, and she reciprocated a little, so I paused and did another, then another, then pulled back and stared into her eyes, and suddenly we're off to the races (sorta)

I pull her over me (I think this is my trademark move haha), our legs were interlocked and while we kissed, I let my hands wander (as my hands tend to do ;) ), and I had some resistance pulling her fully over me, and I reassured her "we're still in our clothes". So on and on, we make out, I eventually feel and taste her chest (she loved my slow kissing on her neck and chest), BUT she absolutely would not let me touch her pussy (the entire time...). I dry humped and she seemed to like it a bit, but not as much as other girls, eventually I took mine out and she objected a little, but I was calm about it and just left it out, all alone (who am I kidding, it was next to her sideways ass ;D ), kissing and boob play continued, I'd occasionally wrap her up in my arms slowly, but powerfully holding her against me. Eventually I guided her hand to mine and it stayed there for pretty much the next hour lol. She'd just jerk on me endlessly, which felt alright, but definitely would never finish from it.

I moved us to the couch at some point and asked her to use her mouth (by firmly trying to guide her head down), but she wouldn't go down on me at first, so the same stuff continues (I look back in amazement that I was naked with a cute girl, bored...), I'd throw in the tight holds to spice things up, since I was stonewalled at the great Panty Gates... eventually she agreed to go down on me, but I had to wash it (though I showered 90 minutes before...) and she needed water, so I obliged and she got to work and it was driving my crazy, I don't know about you guys, but I felt an intense urge of needing to pee (wonder if that's similar to a girl about to squirt, but definitely different as a dude), so I had to stop her and I went to the bathroom, washed it again and returned and continued, unfortunately I couldn't finish from her, but asked if she's cool with me finishing in her mouth (always wanted to try it), which she was (praise jebus). So I took care of myself (definitely felt lame, but whatever, the ending was worth it) while making out with her (this was also the first point I heard audible moans from her), then as I was peaking, I told her and she wrapped her mouth around me and that was that.

She didn't swallow, but I really could care less about that after what she did lol. We (I) get dressed and head out, passionately kissing occasionally. We say our byes and less then an hour later, she texts me: "Hi Josh" "Do you want I be your sex partner or girlfriend?", to which I say I want us to enjoy each other and we're really busy right now, but when we see each other, we can have a great time. She responded well, then proceeded to ping me every few hours (help! She was fun but I don't want this turning into a full fledged thing {there's too many other babes out there to blow away, man ); }) .

My highlight from the after-meeting texts was when she mentioned enjoying talking and I said "Talking...others stuff... ;)" then:
  • Her: Other stuff how long you can keep it
    Me: Haha, you'll appreciate that later
    Her: Kakakaka (Vietnamese haha, I guess?) I thinks it's will be long
    Me: Exactly ;)
    Her: I'm so weak
    I can't
    Kakaka
    Around 1h, it's okay
    Me: Okay, I'll keep that in mind ;)
    Her: Kakak
    Nice
    And mine really small
    Don't do too much strong
    It's will be broken (oh baby jebus, I was trying to deal with others when I read this)
    Me: Omg you're getting me fired up haha
    Her: Kakakka
    You like it??
    Me: An hour stretching out your tight little pussy? Kinda haha
    Her: Kakakaka
    And wet too (well everyone, I've got a boner, deal with it)
    Me: I'm trying to work :p
    Her: *bunch of those lmao emojis*

So any tips on anything are more than welcome, advice on moving this forward as FwB would be awesome (I have no experience with that), questions, etc.

Thanks gents!
Josh
 

skin_man

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey erpiaosn

So I took care of myself (definitely felt lame, but whatever, the ending was worth it) while making out with her (this was also the first point I heard audible moans from her), then as I was peaking, I told her and she wrapped her mouth around me and that was that.

Seems like she had weak BJ skills.

The flow of this shows alot about when you were both at your place. If I was guessing, i would think the lmr didn't last too long before you opted for the BJ.

How long were both of you in your place for?

If you still want to see her again, you might have to frame the visit as you cooking her a meal or you having a movie evening. This way when she comes over, things could get hot immediately.
 

TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hey Skin_man,

I hate to say it, but years of masturbating has made it almost impossible for any girl to get me off. The strong feeing on the head from a BJ isn't equated to finishing in my mind, just peeing. I believe things were going on for 30-40 minutes and she was talking about needing to go. With no progress in the pussy department, I opted for the BJ rather than nothing (I still would try to rub her, with no luck).

Take care man!
Josh
 
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Ambiance

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Sup erpiaosn,

You have taken the "Move Fast" mantra to heart, very nice. Don't you love foreign girls? Just be strong and lead them through your process and they can be yours. You generally don't even need much game. I would say that from what I can tell you came across a bit raunchy, which can be good as it sets you firmly into sexual option territory but it also puts her more in control... which can still work. There are hundreds of reasons a girl will have sex with you. Keep tweaking what works for you, but I would try being more upfront and direct with her on the approach so your behavior is more congruent (and more powerful). Gives you a lot more power, and reduces how much you have to rely on luck and circumstance (it becomes more of a "He's so sexy! And I'm so wet!" feeling as opposed to "Why not" or "Well, it has been awhile..")

As far as physical escalation goes, good job forcing yourself to go for the kiss, even though it didn't work right away. Much better to go for it and screw up than to sit there building up things in your head and giving yourself excuses. So you got that handled. Good job persisting with it too and getting her warmed up. On the whole years of masturbating desensitizing you part: this is something I (and a lot of the other guys) have dealt with. The problem for me (and I suspect you) was threefold. One, yes if you watch a lot of porn and train yourself via masturbation to get off on the porn, or quickly, or whatever it is, yes your brain will be wired that way. But it can be fixed. If you still watch porn, I would highly recommend you at least take a few months off. As far as wanking goes, do it less and when you do it do it longer. Also try picturing the conquest. Second, a lot of it is in your head. It will be difficult at first, but when you are having sex or getting a bj really try to forget all thinking and pressure and anxiety and just take in her body and her smell and the feeling and the excitement. Third, a lot of girls just suck at giving blowjobs. I used to think I didn't like blowjobs and would even refuse them from girlfriends and lovers. Then one day I finally received a proper one. Sex is still better, but bjs are nice too lol.

All in all, nice LR man :) You'll have to fill us in on how it goes with this girl. Seems like she's really embraced the concept of sleeping with you. Skin_man's advice is solid, just have her come over for food or a movie or whatever and take it from there. Assess how ready she is when she gets there, and either take her right away in a flurry of passion if she is excited, or let the tension build and then take her.

Cheers man :)

-A
 

TheEcho

Cro-Magnon Man
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Tons of awesome stuff there, thanks Ambiant!

I'll definitely work on being more direct initially (maybe say cute instead of cool, and other comments of interest). As for porn, I've cut it out almost entirely, any masturbating anymore is from thinking about real experiences, which makes it easy to get up in real moments, but still keeping me programmed to a certain stimulation.

I love that tip about not thinking about anything during a bj or sex, I definitely have to much going in my head during those times.

She was warm, but seems to be cooling off sexually (and she is busy from like 8am-10pm everyday...), I'll try to make sex happen, but am continuing onto other girls.

Take care man!
Josh
 
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