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Cro-Magnon Man
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So I've been thinking and the biggest problem with my seduction is that I don't have my autopilot or default setting correct. I've tried to fix this by forcing myself off autopilot, but today I thought, "What if instead of trying to push myself off autopilot, I pull the material I've learned into my default setting?"

I've already had some success with this. For example, I upgraded my posture to the point where I don't have to think about it anymore. It's become my default posture. Same with my walk. I've changed my routine so that a different walk is now the new normal.

Here's my method:

Practice something for ten days, recording my progress each day.
After ten days, assess. Does this need more time or do I feel like I've improved?
If I have improved, I move to the next thing. If not, I give myself five more days.
Seven days after I have moved on to the next skill, I check to see if the past skill has become autopilot. For example: I fix my voice for ten days. I then move on to eye contact. Seven days later, I check to see if my autopilot voice is what I want it to be or has changed.

Obviously this is pretty easy for fundamentals that don't require going out and meeting new women. But this can be used for following my process when I'm meeting new women.

Today, I'm going to asses the fundamentals that I already have. I'll update this tomorrow.
 

Eric

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I love it!

I got my autopilot really on point by doing that, and it helped immensely. Girls would just warm up to me easily and even get a little turned on by normal conversation.

Just work on being slowwww. Slow things down. Speak as slow as possible, don't respond as much, take your time. Let your eyes drop and just stare into her eyes. It'll make the conversation turn sexual, she'll get nervous and speak more. Use more intermediate comments to bridge the conversation and keep it going. her:"blah blah blah", you: "uh huh", her: "blah blah blah", "really?" *look of surprise*, "blah blah blah", you: ..., her: "blah blah blah"
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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I like it Eric. I think slowness is going to be the first thing I try to get down to autopilot.

Here's what I do have so far on autopilot:
Good posture, a good walk, great intuition, a good sense of how to hit escalation windows, a good body, great intelligence, a range of facial expressions, a good sense of building a connection one on one with other people, and I'm good at getting some initial interest and attraction with women.

Not a terrible start. Clearly, I've been working on this for a while and some things have stuck, while others haven't. This is about getting the difficult things to stick for me.
 

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Cro-Magnon Man
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So today I found out I have the flu. I guess its good because my body will want to move slower naturally? Lol

But seriously today was a struggle. It was tough to do anything but autopilot. However, I made some progress slowing down my actions. I got some interest from a nurse at the clinic. But in conversations, slowing down my responses was a challenge. Very hit or miss. I also missed an opportunity for a chase frame. A girl I've talked to told me she's wearing a sexy outfit for our mixer. (We're doing a jungle theme, and she's wearing a sexy cheetah dress), and I should have at least tried to be sexy with my eyes and such. But when I talked to another girl later and felt an attraction, I intentionally slowed down my voice and reactions, and she noticed (at least it seemed like it from her body language). So very hit or miss today.

So ends day 1.

V.
 
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Days 2 and 3

More hit or miss. Day 2 is worse than Day 3. I actually caught myself on autopilot moving and talking slower. But I still have to work in most conversations to talk slower and respond slower. I had an awkward encounter with an old girlfriend, and fundamentals saved the day. Besides that, there isn't much to say.

I missed a "shoot first" moment with a beautiful girl walking past me. I should have stopped and said Hi at the least, but I let her go. I could see a lot of attraction there.

I also am getting a ton of attraction in one of my class from a freshman. Not really my style (except in my upcoming FR++), and she's seeing one of my brothers. But I could tell she was disappointed when I didn't talk as much in our group project. I'm naturally quiet, so I don't think I need to try to be quiet, I just need to slow down my words and pause more.

I'm starting to get my autopilot corrected!

V
 

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Day 4 was a failure. I'm not going to go into details, because a lot of bad shit happened and I'm still depressed about it. We'll just leave it at that.
 

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Day 5. More hit or miss, but I think I'm starting to get it down. Its much harder to change your drunk autopilot btw. But when you stay in control, then things go better. Its funny how far fundamentals can get. I'm proud of yesterday for two reasons. One is I finally have finally buried everything with my ex. It started out hurt, then anger, then disgust, then competition, to finally ambivalence. Its a damn good feeling.

The second is harder to explain. I shocked my social circle. They actually were jealous. I made friends with someone and they were like, "of all the people he'd like why'd he pick V?" and another laughed, "I have no idea". It hurt at first, but then I realized they were jealous. I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'd love some input on this second point, and I might post a more detailed post on the boards.
 

Eric

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Verisimilitude said:
Day 5. More hit or miss, but I think I'm starting to get it down. Its much harder to change your drunk autopilot btw. But when you stay in control, then things go better. Its funny how far fundamentals can get. I'm proud of yesterday for two reasons. One is I finally have finally buried everything with my ex. It started out hurt, then anger, then disgust, then competition, to finally ambivalence. Its a damn good feeling.

The second is harder to explain. I shocked my social circle. They actually were jealous. I made friends with someone and they were like, "of all the people he'd like why'd he pick V?" and another laughed, "I have no idea". It hurt at first, but then I realized they were jealous. I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'd love some input on this second point, and I might post a more detailed post on the boards.

Maybe you are outgrowing your social circle / friends, if they are jealous. Sounds kind of dick of them.
 

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Its been a while. But I'm still sort of hit or miss. I can usually do a good job for a bit, and then I fall back into not thinking about it. But when I evaluate myself, I think I'm starting to subconsciously do it. Which is the whole point of this process. So I'm making great progress. It's been a week(ish) and I think things are starting to fall together.

My next goal is to approach when invited. Playing to win, shooting first, and asymmetrical returns. But that's for Thursday.

V
 

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Hey all, sorry I haven't been as active in updating this. I finished slowness and I think I made some significant strides and my autopilot is now a lot slower. It was tough to change, especially when I was in a conversation. But I think I was able to change in some great ways. I'll see in five days.

My next goal is to make approach natural. It's good timing, because I'll have an opportunity to do so soon. However, it might not be 10 days from now, because I might not have 10 days where approaching is possible. I'll keep you updated.
 

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So today I realized that in order to approach, I need to have solid fundamentals. My approach (and perhaps this is the problem) is go about my day, see a girl out of my peripherals, observe that she notices me (she looks first), then make eye contact, and finally approach.

Sound pretty standard? I hope so. Feel free to share any advice.

But in order for the girl to at least show some interest, you need solid fundamentals. Today, instead of letting my backpack "drag me down", I just imagined that I was Damon and I just had the best time of my life. And voila, the one girl that I saw on the way back noticed me. I didn't approach her (a mixture of nervousness and just not being into her), but I at least could have said hi. I also don't like approaching with my fraternity letters on. I don't want to bring a stigma on my brothers.

So that's part 1 of day 1 of approaching
 

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I just got back from a cruise. I did a TON of approaching. And it worked. I must have made at least 30 new friends on this trip. And not just acquaintances, people who if we lived closer would become good friends. I don't think I have 30 friends who like me as much as the people who I met on this trip.

And I did it all by just going up and talking to people. Although I used alcohol to help, it got to the point where I felt weird when I didn't approach people than when I did.

Now a cruise is an easy place to approach, but I still did really well. I think if I had to rate where I am now, I'd say that if a girl looked at me first or if I saw a girl I liked at a party, I could just go up and meet them. I might have a problem approaching a girl I liked but didn't look at me or a girl in a group during the day. But those are tough. I didn't do much direct opener on the cruise, but I got situational openers down.

I think I made a ton of progress on approaching. I'm going to take a couple more days to get approach at my school down, but then I'm good.

So five more days of this, and then I'm moving to creating a sexy vibe (a big problem on the cruise)

I'll also put up a OR up soon. While I didn't go on the cruise to meet girls (I went to get over my fear of meeting people), I have some things I could use help on.
 

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Kind of a frustrating day. I had a girl look at me at least 6 times and I didn't approach her. She was sort of looking around confused, so at first I thought she was waiting for a friend. But then after the 3rd time I realized she was looking at me.

I'm really disappointed with how that turned out. I could have at least said hi or said something about the line. I gotta get back on track. I spent one day this week in an approach mentality, 4 more to go.

One of the things that I have noticed is that solid fundamentals are the rock behind any man. Whenever I felt awkward on the cruise or in my day to day life, I'd check my posture, walk, and eyes. I'd adjust them to a confident look and soon, I'd feel better. And I'd get better results. Solid fundamentals always carry the day.
 

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I've been MIA these past couple of days because I've had some major life changes occur. Big things that could affect my life for the next year if not longer. I'll get back to business soon.
 

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So approaching has gone pretty well. I haven't made as much progress where I can direct open anyone, but that really isn't my game. My next goal is developing a sexy vibe. I get into the boyfriend territory a lot, and I want to ditch that vibe. So today is day 1 of having a sexy vibe.

What are some other areas that you guys would like to see my try to improve in?

I think assertiveness will be my next one.
 

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Ok days 1 and 2 of having a sexy vibe. Well I'm making some good steps. Day 1 I got the librarian girl (who's a student) to blush and stumble over everything. Pretty good. Day 2 I got an adult librarian to do the same thing. But nerdy librarians aren't really my target. On a side note, I recorded myself and I found that my facial expressions are awesome. I've really got those down, and its hardwired into my autopilot. Pretty cool stuff. Now if only I can get the look in my avatar down, I can really make girls swoon ;)
 

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I haven't updated this in three days, so apologies for that. I haven't really been sleeping much these weekends ;). But anyways, I'm doing something right, because I got my second lay in two weeks. What I've noticed is when I do have sex, girls can see it somehow. Maybe I walk a little taller, or I just smell better, or something, but I've gotten so many girls looking at me now than a month ago. On Friday, I was worried something was on my face because girls kept looking at me. Today walking back from getting food, I got caught two girls staring. The next step is reviewing my sexy vibe and trying to get it to the next level.
 

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So vibe went ok. Not bad enough that I need an extra five days, but not great either. I might come back to it later. Starting tomorrow, I'm going to work on assertiveness. Zphix did a great post here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5577 that will be the basis of my development.

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I've been slacking lately. I'm gonna try to get back on track this week. Today, I'm not going to say WHY I think things. I'm just going to say them. For example: Let's go to McDonald's because xyz... = bad. Let's go to McDonald's = good.
 

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I've been doing a bit better, but I've still been really busy. This time of year is always crazy for me. The girls from my two LRs are still texting me so I have them, but I'd like to find a couple more girls before the year is over. Hopefully being assertive will help with that.
 
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