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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I have decided to start a journal in order not to fill the Field Reports section with all my posts, unless they are noteworthy.

I found this website and forum at the end of 2014. Since then I have definitely seen my game improving. Approaching more girls, getting more numbers, making out more often, getting girls on date more often, getting more girls to my place and managed to bang two.

One in January and one in April (which I kept seeing until the end of June). I posted them on the general board

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9279&p=44636#p44636
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10086&p=49246#p49246

I am in a period in which I am trying to steadily but relaxedly improve in all areas of my life. I am setting myself goals my I am trying not to generate too much stress, since I had a period of my life in which goal-setting led me to a lot of anxiety and eventually bad results.

I’ll be back with some field reports soon enough,

Hasta luego.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Still making the mistake of escalating before we're at my place.

Yesterday I was at this social event in this bar with a lot of people I didn't know.
I was sitting on this sofa chatting with other two men, when a first girl joins in the conversation.
Short black girl, not a great face, but a nice body. At the beginning of the conversation she seems to be more interested in one of the other men I am talking to, even touching him a couple of time. As the conversation goes on, she starts to direct her attention to me. At one point another girl joins the conversation. Blonde, ok face, ok body. I start to talk to her and the conversation seems flowing. The black girl, a little disappointed, changes spot and look for somebody else to talk to. (My intention wasn't to discard her actually, I liked them both equally).

After 15 minutes in the conversation with the blonde one, I ask her to get a drink at the bar. Now we are the bar talking to each other alone. We stay there 5 minutes, then I proposed to smoke a cigarette outside. We end up sitting at a table outside and talk for a long time. She is a very logical person talking a lot about job, career etc. She talks a lot. I don't even need to ask a lot of questions. Simply let her talk.

At one point she mentions that there's this club she's heard of but never went to. Normally I would bring a girl from a bar to a club before bringing her home but this looked like the chance I needed to bring her away from the place. There was still the social event inside, meaning it was pretty easy for her to go back in at any time. So I proposed going dancing. She agreed without much resistance. We stopped at a fast food to eat something, talking a bit more and then we went to the club.

We have a beer, we dance a bit, then we sit on the sofas. I start caressing her bit and then I go for the kiss. She opposes no resistance. We go dancing. She allows me to touch her basically all over. We get another drink, we sit a bit again, talking and making out a bit at which point I try the pull.

She immediately starts putting a huge resistance. It doesn't matter how much I persist, she keeps on saying NO and saying that it's late and she has to go home. It's like she has really decided it. As we get out of the club I keep on persisting but she definitely wants to home. I grab a taxi telling her it's sad that we couldn't spend a bit more time together. She kissed me and went away.

She's here as a tourist so I didn't even try to get the number.

I was thinking about what I did wrong. I came up with different possible answers that don't exclude each other.


1) I shouldn't have brought her to the club, I should have found another intermediate point between the social event and my home. probably another bar where I could have kept deep diving before asking her home

2) as I was in the club I should have pulled her before. Probably as we were making out there was an escalation window when she would have been ready to go home. maybe that passed and she became closed.

3) I should have tried to have sex in the club? seems bold but who knows
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Went clubbing yesterday... I did a lot of approaches, although the overall results were kinda disappointing compared to the last nights I went dancing.

The first girl I approached was a very cute Israeli brunette. I approached her twice, the first time by asking her to take a picture of me and my friend and then trying to talk to her. The second time I just grabbed her and brought close to me, which she didn't like.

The second one, at the bar, I asked her: "what do you think about my bracelet?", she looked like she wanted to answer but a guy, maybe her boyfriend, arrived and "protected" her.

I tried to catch some girls on the dance floors without saying anything, just grabbing them. Some were very pissed, others were entertained but didn't want to dance with me.

Another one I told her that she had a nice collection of bracelets, she looked like she wanted to talk, but some friends brought her away.

Then the one I had probably more chances with. As I was outside smoking, I started chatting with her and her friend (a man) left her alone with me. I fucked up because in the first 5-10 minutes she was kinda physical which probably meant there were an escalation window there. As we went in dancing she got cold. I didn't wast much time.

As I was talking with two guys, I grabbed another one and asked her: we need to ask you a question. She was very receptive (maybe because of the confidence with which I approached) but as I tried to bring her inside she just said "she wanted to go find her girlfriends".

I know going out and approaching is better than doing nothing, but I had gotten used to have more positive responses from girls in clubs lately, so this one left me with a bitter feeling. I know I don't have to get stuck though.

The thing I noticed is that when I go out there's still a first hour or so when I am very hesitant to begin approaching. I'd like to shorten the time I need to start to feel "in the flow".
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Getting used to the idea that you can pick up during the day

Since I committed myself to pick-up last October, I had a lot of interactions, although almost all of them happened in the two (opposite) contexts of social events and night bars and clubs. I picked up on the street and on the bus/metro but almost always at night when people are out to party (so it's kind of an extension of picking up in bars and clubs). But all this picking up I have been doing in these contexts is making me think more and more that the time has come to pick up during the day too.

Today I went around and I started to get used to idea of talking to strangers during the day. Here's what I did:

I had a little chat with a girl sitting next to me at the public library where I was studying. We chatted shortly about her computer. I asked a girl for a cigarette and then talked a bit to her. I also started conversations with some men, because it gets you used to the idea of socialising with strangers during the day.

Also, I am starting to imagining how to approach girls I see around. As I was sitting in the bus, there were two pretty asian girls sitting not far for me. One had very cool sunglasses. I thought about complimenting her about them.

I am starting to realise that you need very good social calibration to pick up during the day, because the risk of appearing creepy is very high.
Surely be well dressed helps a lot.

Let's see what happens..
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Yesterday was supposed to be a quiet night out with some buddies but it ended up being pretty active.

I met with this buddy of mine at the bar where we met a group of tourists with whom we shared a table. The waitress who was serving us was quite pretty. I engaged her a couple of times and she was pretty warm and sociable with us.

At around 10 they all wanna go home except for this Canadian guy who would like to see more of the night scene (it's summertime, full of tourists, so everything's open). I agree to go with him.

We stop at a fast food where you eat standing. I do my first approach to warm up. Tall girl, not that pretty but still. I see she has a lot of fries in her dish and I tell her: "that's a big portion, good luck finishing it". she smiles and says something I don't remember. I could have probably kept talking to her but I wasn't that interested.

Then we go this bar and we sit right next to a table with 3 girls, 2 quite hot, the other ok. As we are talking about Canadian beers, this guy shows me on internet the logo of a beer I have never seen before in my life, so I take his phone and I show it to the girls: "hey girls, have you ever seen this beer in your life?" (I know they didn't because they were from another European country). We started talking. The Canadian guy didn't really have a lot of game. As he saw that the girls were receptive to my approach, he immediately stood up, got close to the girls very fast and, while standing (with her seated) started storming her with questions which made her a bit uncomfortable. I started to talk with the one right close to me, and sat close to her only 3-4 minutes into the conversation.

It didn't take me much to start deep-diving. At one point there might have been an escalation windows because the Canadian guy and the other two girls stood up because a bigger table with sofas had become available. They told us to join them there, still she remained 1-2 minutes sitting with me before telling me to move to the sofas.

The Canadian guy was talking with one of the girls and I started a group conversation with the other two. I touched a topic they loved, which was different types of man and different types of woman from a relationship perspective and told them my opinion. They teased me massively all the time because I was covering the subject with a very cocky self-confident "experienced" attitude. Anyway the one I like mentions her boyfriend at one point. I could have tried to move things forwards with her anyway, but at that moment it looked better to grab her contact and, because she's from another town, tell her I'd call her if I visit, so I could go pick up some other girls. She gave me her FB and the day after I could see she actually has a boyfriend, so wasn't lying. We leave the bar together and I see that the one I took the contact keeps staying around me. Who knows, I might have had some chances. Anyway, they grab a taxi and me and the Canadian guy continue our night out.

I'll post the rest later or tomorrow.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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So, now the rest of the night.

As me and this Canadian guy are standing outside of a dance bar, we get "approached" by these two crazy (and quite drunk) dutch girls plus a guy who's with them. They ask us if this place we're going in is cool. I told them it's alright but it's not the best if they wanna get f***ed up. I told them there's a better club closeby. They insist we go with them and we don't see with not.

We enter the club. We have the first round of drinks. We dance a bit, I try to grab one of the girls I'am with but she doesn't seem interested. So I separate from the group and start cold approaching.

FIRST APPROACH: I see a bunch of middle-eastern looking girls who look all very similar and ask her if they are all sisters. They laugh. Then one of the dutch girls I was with comes close to me and starts telling me something (like "we're going smoking outside"). As I re-approach the middle-eastern girls, they are entirely cold. NEXT

SECOND APPROACH (This is the big missed opportunity of the night). I am outside smoking. I spot two indian-looking girls. One of them is simply gorgeous. I got close to her table (one of those small high ones you don't sit at) with the excuse to use her ashtray. Don't do any eye-contact. Stand there for some 30 seconds to make sure with the peripheral view they had noticed me and then I open them "girls, give me an advice to quit smoking". They are very interested and start a conversation. I learn they are actually from the US. We speak a bit and then two guys who had already hit on them get close to the table. The hot one starts telling them to "f**k off, piece of s**t, mot**f**er" and every kind of insult possible. She starts telling me that they had met these guys in the same club two nights before and they hit on them all the time even though they kept rejecting them and that tonight they were doing the same thing. She said they were pathetic. Anyway they talk a bit and the pretty one is very very very close to me. I really was a dumb-a's not coming up with some idea to escalate. At one point they say "It's our last night in town, we want to get f***ed up etc. etc.. she says "you are a very cool guy let me tell you and blah blah blah". I was stupid, I should have said "let's get a round of shots" or something like that. She went away a bit disappointed. I have the impression I was perceived as too unattainable. It'll help me in the future.

THIRD APPROACH: I sit on a high chair close to where the people are dancing. I stand there tall and firm. I spot a girl noticing me. I compliment her on her necklace. She thanks me and says: it was a present from her, indicating her best friend who was dancing there. There's another guy dancing around them. We talk a bit but I let it die. I don't know why, this night I was pretty lazy.

FOURTH APPROACH: I tell a skinny cute girl "she should eat more". She gives me an evil angry look, while her friend laughs out loud.

FIFTH APPROACH: I take one by the hand to ask her something, but she goes awy.

SIXTH APPROACH: I compliment another girl on her necklace on the dance floor. She thanks me, but I look better at her and don't really like her

SEVENTH APPROACH: I try to ask something to a girl on the dance floor but she gives me a strange look.


Definitely not one of my best nights. But still, I received a lot of feedback. The most two important thing I learned are:

- Preopening (standing confident, firm, tall and moving like a boss and make the girl perceive that before you talk to her) in clubs can be very powerful.

- I have to think faster. Clubs are faster than any other environment, including bars. So move move move.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Approached a group of tourists at the metro station yesterday, by asking her if the language they were speaking was Russian (which it was). They were quite receptive.

Because I have become better at night game while I still suck at day game, I find approaching girls on the street/public transportation (when I am going out partying) a very good link between the two. It helps me transfer the right state of mind I have at night towards day game.

I was out with other two guys I just met. We wanted to go to a club I never had problems getting in, but they didn't let us this time. Motherf****s :)
 
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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I texted a girl I met yesterday in a bar to ask her out but didn't work.
me: "hey Jennie, hope your sister managed to win the drinking competition, she seemed pretty determined".
her: "hahahah nope she didn't, but we had fun anyway!"
me: "I bet you did. Too bad you're leaving town already tomorrow. If you wanna have a last round of drinks tonight let me know"
her: "I guess that I better spend my last day with my sister, but thanks for the offer :)"
me: "I understand. Have a good flight back!"

I approached a girl in a Starbucks. Not bad considering I totally suck at day game.
me: "nice collection of bracelets"
her: "haha thanks".
me: "how many do you have there 6?"
her: "yes 6"
win: "I only have 3, you win".
no answer. looked at me again for a while, but I was keeping my high-status mood, so didn't wanna re-approach her.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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2 days ago got approached by a girl on the bus, but was caught with my guard off: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11226

yesterday I managed to bring a girl out of a social event into another bar just the two us. Did a lot of kino and a gave her a short kiss.
I wanted to bed her the same night (she wasn't as hot as to make wanna go out again) but she wanted to walk hand in hand for some time, probably with the hope I'd ask her out the next day, which I won't. I'd rather approach some other girl.
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Man, I've been going out a lot in the last 10 days but was lazy and didn't report back. I'll post a little about the "new thing" of the last days.

I did a lot of street pick-up last night because I went out with this quite experienced buddy of mine who doesn't really give a s**t and stops anybody he wants at will. There were some 20 minutes when I approached 5 girls on the streets with the same exact line: "do you know a metal club closeby?" I liked this line because it allows you to talk immediately about music, a topic I love and a good one to start deep-diving.

Reactions varied.

the first one on the train reacted warmly but then my more experienced buddy stole her attention, which I didn't mind because he almost managed to make her come with us. the second also started talking in a very engaged way but was waiting for a friend. the third one was very dismissive. the fourth one was drunk :D the fifth one was nice and gave me her FB.
 

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yesterday I did around 10 approaches.

After watching a Football game with some buddies, I stopped a girl on the street just to warm up. Asked her if she knew some nice place to hang out around the area. She was very receptive. Maybe I could have done better stuff.

After that I was in a bar with a friend. Approached a group of girls, but the conversation didn’t continue after the approach.

Approached two groups of girls outside of a club, asking them if they had already been in and how was it.

Inside the club I approached two indian-looking girls. The one I liked the most was more into my friend. The other one (which I didn’t really like) was into me and touching me the whole time. By the way, they both gave us the contact. I texted the hot one 1 hour ago, still no reply. I doubt she will frankly :/

I started a conversation with a girl on the dance floor asking her if she was from Thailand (and she was) then I grabbed her and danced with her. She was very entertained. We danced for around 2 minutes, talking a bit. Then she said laughing and smiling that she wanted to be with her friends. I guess I could have given her another try a bit later but I didn’t see her, plus this night I primarily wanted to chill.

The next was the best approach of the night. Gorgeous-looking French girl with probably a mixture of African and Asian ancestry. Simply stunning. I got close to her on the dance floor and told her: “they should arrest you for being so criminally gorgeous”. She laughed out lout. I took her hands as if I wanted to put handcuffs on her. I told her we should drink something, she said no laughing, but I grabbed her and brought her to the bar. We talk a bit but she immediately said:

her “I have to tell you that I have a boyfriend and he’s very jealous”
me: “why jealous? My last girlfriend was almost as hot as you and I let her dance with another guys, it’s just dancing right?”
her: “haha really you let her do that?”
me: “by the way which country are you from?”
her: “take a guess”
me: “the gorgeous republic of gorgeousness”
her: “hahah no I am from France"
me: “cool! By the way, accompany out I wanna smoke”
her:: “ok, but don’t smoke in my face please, I hate smoke!

we talk a bit outside about what she does for a living, her expectation etc.
then she says she should really go back but before she gives me her contact and tells me what I do for a living etc..
she doesn’t live here. I added on FB and could see that not only she actually has a BF, but from the picture he looks one hell of an attractive dude.

I approach two girls, one seems very interested, the other initially open then immediately aloof and then ask the interest one to go away.

Another girl loves conversing but tells me that she only dates men from her own ethnic group. I mean WTF? Surely that was a shit-test.

On our way out of the club me and by buddy bump into a group of American tourist. I manage to get the contact of one of them.
 
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