Wechat/Tinder, are they hindrances to our development?

[thecloudsandrain]

Hello Everyone,

I've been reading the articles on GC focused on confidence, and they've really resonated with me. For the last 8 months or so I've been completely focused on finding women through social apps, specifically Wechat. I'd basically search for women that were using a search nearby function. Most of the women I encountered through this process were women that wanted a friend to talk to or a bit of validation. 1 out of every 10-15 women or so would be down for sex with little to no effort on my part.

So I'd go over to their place or they mine and we'd have sex. Having sex though never really made me feel like I had accomplished anything.I basically gained a level of confidence that I hadn't really earned.The thing with social apps is it really doesn't involve any fundamentals what-so-ever. So while your building confidence with every lay your not really building the fundamental foundation that builds a women up emotionally from the ground floor. The thing that really makes me feel like I've accomplished something with a woman is when I've got her to the point of not being able to control herself or her emotions.

When I was back in the states I was able to accomplish building up a woman emotionally. She might tell me how crazy she feels or she might squeal with excitement when a word leaves my mouth. I think building up tension is what I really had going for me. Having sex with a stranger just doesn't compare to the power one feels when I women has lost all her sense and reasoning.

My main point is I think things such as Tinder/Wechat may be more of a hindrance to ones development in the seduction arts because the process one carries out on a messenger can't be used effectively when meeting women in real life. I also think these messenger's can be unsuspecting traps because they help build a false sense of confidence built on easy lays. However, I do feel that finding dates instead of an instant lay is a helpful function that these services can provide. Just don't get sucked into the notion that an instant lay=progress.

Now I have to create a process...

theclouds

 

[Franco]

cloudsandrain,

Yeah, this topic has come up before on the boards. Personally, I also see using only Tinder or other dating apps as a hindrance from fully learning how to meet women. You're skipping many steps, and usually your results (and the type of women you come across) reflect that -- they aren't the best quality.

I believe Tinder and other social apps should be used as a "supplementary" tool to help improve your skills with women. If you make it your only method, you're probably going to be missing out on the best women, the best sex, and the best relationships. I know friends who've been religiously using Tinder for over a year (and never approach women), and I have yet to see them pull home any top tier women; top tier women just don't need to use Tinder to meet men.

Use it as a supplement if you're still learning how to approach women; if you use it as an "alternative" from learning how to truly cold approach, you're only hurting yourself in the long run.

- Franco