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JayP

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A little background about my stay: I stayed in my first hostel this weekend in DC. Have to say it was pretty cool, minus no room for privacy. (Comes into play in my field report) I also tried my tinder profile after getting some professional pics, but I still got no matches. I guess I still don't know what are good pics? So I abandoned that option and went with solely approaches.

Friday Night

On the bus to the hostel, a girl behind me asked someone if the next stop was to DC. He wasn't sure, so I jump in and said it was. After a few minutes, I ask her if she's been to DC before, and start conversation there. After a few minutes, I suggest for her to come sit with me so it's easier to talk to her. She does, and we have a good conversation, but when I make flirty comments, she doesn't seem intrigued by them and just laughs them off. I asked for her number before the bus arrived and she put her full name in my phone. I mention this because I remember Colt writing an article mentioning if a girl puts her full name in your phone, she's interested because she wants to make sure you remember her. When we got off the bus, I saw her go straight to her friend picking her up from the bus stop. I thought she wasn't interested, so I didn't even bother saying anything else. (Now that I think about it, I went straight to picking up my luggage and couldn't even tell if she looked back at me to talk.)

I arrived late to my hostel due to bad traffic and my bus being late (avoid taking a bus if traveling), so I missed the pub crawl the hostel was offering the guests. I decided to go downstairs and jam out on one of the guitars they had in the lobby with a couple of other guys there. I noticed a girl sitting by herself on her phone; couldn't tell how cute she was, but seeing as I still have anxiety, I took the challenge and used a situational approach with the tv in the lobby.

Me: Excuse me, do you know if there's a boxing match going on tonight? (ESPN was on)
Her: Oh, I don't know. Are you a boxing fan?
Me: I'm not crazy about it, but I like a good match or two. I'm Jaja1234. (Put my hand out to shake hers)
Her: I'm ***** (I don't remember her name haha)

Some banter and sexual comment I made about her wanting to take my shirt off after she commented about me having muscle. Too obvious she wanted some dick.

After a little bit, I said we should go on a little adventure and she agreed. We went to a bar around the neighborhood. On our way, I smacked her butt a couple of times and I put her hand on my butt to try to set a chase frame and say she was harassing me. At the bar:

Me: So tell me, what's your craziest sex story you have?
Her: (Tells her story)
Me: Very nice. I think it's cool how you're so open about sex. You're not afraid to tell me about it.
Her: I don't give a fuck. I like it.

I finish my drink and we head out. I ask if she feels like heading back to the hostel, and she says not really. So I start looking around for any place we could get intimate outside without getting caught since my room has seven other roommates. My first mistake here was I should have looked around the block to be prepared for this since I didn't know the area. So after I couldn't really find anything, I suggested we head back to the hostel, but chill in the back patio, saying it's probably empty, and we head off.

Here's where I go from stumbling to fumbling the ball:

We sat down and like I predicted, there was no one else in the patio. She asked me about a crazy sex story I have; this is where I get stumped because I didn't really have one and made one up on the spot, noticeably. After a couple of minutes chatting, I try to get her to sit closer to me by putting her leg over mine to rub it, not asking. I wasn't too smooth about it, and it came off a little uncomfortable. After that, I asked her to pull up her chair closer to me. She did, and then I asked her to come sit on top of me. (Realized how unsmooth it was after I said it. She even gave a little look lol) After a few more minutes, I knew I needed to make a move, in the middle of her speaking, I got up and began kissing her. After a few seconds, she put up some resistance because she said she saw two people from the hostel windows inside. Sure enough, I turned around and saw two people working in the hostel building from the windows, but not actively looking. I pointed to the staircase saying that they couldn't see us under there, but by this time, she was already in auto-rejection. I guess she really didn't like how the workers saw us there. She wanted to go back to her room and I went with her inside. I tried one last move to set something up at all:

Me: Here. (I pulled out my phone for her to put her number in.)
Her: What?
Me: Your number.
Her: ... I'll see you later

I saw one my roommates a little later and I told him I couldn't find a spot to escalate. Then he mentioned to just use the bathrooms since no one uses the showers at night. (Duh! Why didn't that cross my mind earlier when I was looking for a spot to fuck her?) Regardless, she was the first girl I could tell was so dtf so fast, but can't help but feel a little silly for messing up something seemingly simple at the time.

Saturday Daytime

I was getting the free breakfast the hostel offered in the cafeteria and one of the workers asked me to translate a sentence for him in Spanish. After that, he wanted to me introduce me to one of the other girls from Argentina. Wingman undercover!

I'll keep this one short since I want to focus on the one later in the night at a house club I went to, but long story short. I invited her to join me to see the museums near the White House and she complied. I learned she had a boyfriend and she was a little upset about some issues they've had from the beginning, but when trying to progress with her, I wasn't really experienced with the boyfriend situation and stumbled, so after sightseeing, I went back to my room and she went to continue sightseeing more.

Saturday evening

I was outside on my phone looking for some good house clubs in the area, when I noticed two cute girls from my peripherals standing a few feet away from me. After one of them went inside for a second, I approached the one still outside:

Me: Excuse me. I'm not really from the area. What are some really cool spots for nightlife around here?
Her: I'm not from the area either haha

Her friend comes out, and they head off. I was nervous to say something after that, but I manned up and caught up with them:

Me: Hey! I know this is probably weird, but I'm looking for cool people to hang out with tonight. You guys interested?

They look at each other for a second and say sure, with some hesitation, but I decide to stay with them for a bit to improve after debating moving on. Long story short, we go to a sushi bar in Adam's Morgan and I try to sex up the conversation. Didn't go too smoothly, and I learned they were sisters, so threesomes were out of the question haha. I could tell I wasn't getting anywhere with them, so I bid them farewell after the sushi bar.

Late Saturday NIght

I took an Uber to Flash night club, if anyone's familiar with the DC area. They play exclusively house music, just like I was looking for. I checked out the building a bit, and when I got to the second floor, I finally experienced what Chase meant when he said house clubs have a more laid-back atmosphere. I don't really see this in Philly, at least not from where I've been. Anyway, I sat in one of the couches to get a good look at the room and I noticed one girl dancing by herself. This is where Chase's words from one of his articles talking about house clubs rang in my head:
She might be there just for a drink... but often if she's there alone, it's because she's there to pick up too.

After a few minutes of fighting off my anxiety, I went near her and made a comment about a couple dancing kind of goody in front of us:

Me: If we danced like that, do you think we'd be better than them?
Her: I don't think that would be too hard to do haha
Me: I'm Jaja1234
Her: I'm *****

After a couple of minutes talking I say we should go grab a seat, and she complies. I deep dive about her work and how she ended up in DC, trying to initiate touch with my arm around her and my hand on her leg. I asked her if she was more of an assgrabber or assslapper and mentioned I saw her wanting to grab mine earlier. She laughed and went along with it.

Here's where I get confused.

I think it was about 10- 30 minutes of deep diving and some flirty comments by me on the couch when I suggested we should go check out downstairs, trying to get us closer to going outside. I thought she would be down, but she said she wanted to stay here and keep dancing. This is probably where I should have moved on after she rejected my compliance test, but I figured I'd push through since I don't have enough experience to confidently say that. At some point of talking, she says she wants to get a drink and asks if I'm coming. She seemed so chill about everything, I started thinking I could bounce back from the compliance test she rejected earlier. I head to the bar with her. We then go to the dance floor. I start stumbling with the conversation, but I manage to keep it going for the most part. It was starting to get a little awkward at this point. I dont' remember how we got to her saying this, but around 2:15AM she mentioned she needs to go home since it's past her bedtime. I don't remember what I said after that, I think something about heading out together, but after, I say I'm going to the bathroom and I'll be back in two minutes.

This made me laugh at first, but the thought of her wanting to ditch me while I was gone popped in my head, and I didn't see her when I came back lol. Either I was just validation to her, or I creeped the shit out of her. I was a little discouraged, so I sat on one of the couches for some time to get a little break. Around this time, the place started to empty and it was becoming a sausagefest, so I left.


Overall, some things I noticed:

- I'm getting more comfortable with commanding girls when I feel it's right, but if she denies, I kind of stumble after that.
- I have a problem with speaking where I kind of mumble and speak quickly, so I come off nervous. Trying to work on this.
- I have social anxiety, so it's hard for me to have regular conversations sometimes and with girls I'm trying to fuck.

Feedback would be super appreciated!
 

Byron

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jaja1234-
Some quick notes
Some banter and sexual comment I made about her wanting to take my shirt off after she commented about me having muscle. Too obvious she wanted some dick.

After a little bit, I said we should go on a little adventure and she agreed.

I really like this. "Adventures" are amazing and I wish I'd have used them more often. Props.




She asked me about a crazy sex story I have; this is where I get stumped because I didn't really have one and made one up on the spot, noticeably.
When I was a virgin, everyone knew. Something about lying to girls I'm talking to, in order to get laid, feels wrong. Might just be me but you could say something like "I'm not sure I can top yours, but I'm always looking for my next crazy story."

Or...what I did was make it a big deal. Told girls I was dating, no I don't wanna have sex, this doesn't feel right yet. Drove them crazy, and when I finally lost my virginity at 16 it was cause a girl I was really close with, really really wanted to be my first. Depends on how old you are/how much of a romantic you are.

I got up and began kissing her. After a few seconds, she put up some resistance because she said she saw two people from the hostel windows inside.
Good job for just going for it. I think she was a little weirded out after your story, and the incongruence more than the people is what ruined the interaction, but you had the balls to run it as far as you could go.

but when trying to progress with her, I wasn't really experienced with the boyfriend situation and stumbled,
Happens to me all the time. Still trying to figure it out too.


Hey! I know this is probably weird, but I'm looking for cool people to hang out with tonight. You guys interested?
First part seems a little off, I don't know why.
Invite them for adventures ;)

I think it was about 10- 30 minutes of deep diving and some flirty comments by me on the couch when I suggested we should go check out downstairs, trying to get us closer to going outside

Were you touching her? 3/4 of my recent hookups have been mostly due to touch. Touch on the flirty comments, see if she's ticklish, and if you want you can hold hands during deepdiving. Try it out.

After that, same thing as the first night. It was going great but you're fumbling the endgame, she gets weirded out because things aren't going how she thought, you're not quite as congruent/smooth as you initially appear to be.

Welcome to the grind (something I'm just getting into as well).

I have a problem with speaking where I kind of mumble and speak quickly, so I come off nervous. Trying to work on this.

Movie characters voices.

Some of my favorites for voice are Jax Teller in SOA, he has great diction and speaking speed, RDJ for character, Brad Pitt is another good one for diction and speed. Ragnar Lothbrok has a great pregnant pause, and good speed as well, although his accent is incongruent unless you are scandinavian. Check em out.

Keep going! You got this.

Byron
 

JayP

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Byron,

When I was a virgin, everyone knew. Something about lying to girls I'm talking to, in order to get laid, feels wrong. Might just be me but you could say something like "I'm not sure I can top yours, but I'm always looking for my next crazy story."

Or...what I did was make it a big deal. Told girls I was dating, no I don't wanna have sex, this doesn't feel right yet. Drove them crazy, and when I finally lost my virginity at 16 it was cause a girl I was really close with, really really wanted to be my first. Depends on how old you are/how much of a romantic you are.

I try not to if I can, when I feel backed into a wall, I do. Then again, it's not like there's only one thing I can say to a girl each time.

First part seems a little off, I don't know why.
Invite them for adventures ;)

lol yeah, it felt weird right after I said it. I need to remember to use adventures more often.

Were you touching her? 3/4 of my recent hookups have been mostly due to touch. Touch on the flirty comments, see if she's ticklish, and if you want you can hold hands during deepdiving. Try it out.

After that, same thing as the first night. It was going great but you're fumbling the endgame, she gets weirded out because things aren't going how she thought, you're not quite as congruent/smooth as you initially appear to be.

Welcome to the grind (something I'm just getting into as well).

I was touching her, but I was a little unsure of how she felt about it, so I didn't get as comfortable with the touch as I could have. I held her hand sometimes, but again, I held about 2,3 fingers, hesitating. Hearing you mention the fumbling towards the end made me remember another girl everything was going pretty well with some time back, but I chickened out at the end and didn't try to go her place and instead just left. (Still kick myself about it sometimes lol) Thanks for pointing that out.

I actually remember the girl from the house club saying that she's been there enough times that people recognize her; this was after I made a comment about how I could outtwerk her and I challenged her. That must have played some role too after not staying smooth. I'll keep pushing through the end nervousness!

Some of my favorites for voice are Jax Teller in SOA, he has great diction and speaking speed, RDJ for character, Brad Pitt is another good one for diction and speed. Ragnar Lothbrok has a great pregnant pause, and good speed as well, although his accent is incongruent unless you are scandinavian. Check em out.

Great examples here. Ragnar pause is perfect. I've had this problem since I was a kid, so Youtubing these guys and their speaking is going to be my new hobby.

Thanks bro. Looking forward to reading more of your LR's!
 
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I've been to Flash before, it is very chill but the whole vibe has changed. I've gone a couple of times and there were a total of 5 girls there (my buddy and I counted and waited 2 hours for some sort of switch, nope).
 

JacobPalmer

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Biggest thing I noticed in all your interactions is that when the girl gives you a little bit of shit/non compliance etc, you basically just accept it. You basically lose the frame each time. I'll highlight some examples.

I ask if she feels like heading back to the hostel, and she says not really. So I start looking around for any place we could get intimate outside without getting caught since my room has seven other roommates.

Sounds like you just accepted things here, where you should have at least tried to resolve her objections first by asking her something like, "Why, what's holding you back?"

Me: Here. (I pulled out my phone for her to put her number in.)
Her: What?
Me: Your number.
Her: ... I'll see you later

Same thing, but also not a great close, and the interaction sounds mostly dead at this point. You didn't give her a reason to give her number out.

Her: What?
You: Your number, so we can grab a drink later and go on adventures.

Then if she still says "I'll see you later"
You: "Listen, I had fun, and you seem cool, and we should keep in contact to make plans. But if you're not interested I can stop trying."

I think it was about 10- 30 minutes of deep diving and some flirty comments by me on the couch when I suggested we should go check out downstairs, trying to get us closer to going outside. I thought she would be down, but she said she wanted to stay here and keep dancing. This is probably where I should have moved on after she rejected my compliance test, but I figured I'd push through since I don't have enough experience to confidently say that.

Same thing. She rejects moving downstairs, and then YOU comply. You shouldn't have moved on, but you should have persisted.

You: Let's go for 5 minutes, then we can come back and you can dance your heart out. Let's go (take her by the hand and lead."

Also notice her that after she rejects compliance, she's the one leading the whole interaction:

At some point of talking, she says she wants to get a drink and asks if I'm coming. She seemed so chill about everything, I started thinking I could bounce back from the compliance test she rejected earlier. I head to the bar with her.

See how's she's leading you here? :) This is what you should have been doing to her, not the other way around.

Either I was just validation to her, or I creeped the shit out of her.

Nah, sounds like she was at least somewhat interested, or she wouldn't have hung around. You just didn't lead the interaction that well, and gave up on when she said no to small things, where you could have persisted through.

That's the overall theme from what I read here in most of your interactions anyway. Hope it helps!
 
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