FR Went sober night-gaming, got number, did i do it right?

[Skjöldr]

Hey folks
I'm a daygamer, but i went to a bar with my friend. We were sitting and watching a film when we decided to hit a bar for a few hours. We agreed to do sober. I got a cola and he only a few beers.

In the bar i'm playing cards with my friend and some friendly dude we met on the street. A sexy ass girl walks past me. Tall, huge boobs, huge ass. I'm 19, turning 20 soon, and every girl i approach thinks i'm 24-26. This woman looked like she was late 20s. Love me a thick chick with a 10 year age gap. I tell my friends "I'm gonna grab her number real quick and get back", so i get up, see she's waiting for the toilet to be available all alone and make my approach:


Me: "Hey, i was playing cards with my friends over there when i noticed you. I think you're pretty"
Her: "Ohh haha thank you, but i think i'm a bit too old for you..."
Me: "Well how old do you think i look?"
Her: "Hmmm idk... 24?"
Me: "Close! 25" (she seemed to calm down over the whole thing)
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: "I'm (name)"
Me: "Nice to meet you (name)! So what's going on tonight?"
Her: "I'm gonna head off to a party with my friends here later, you?"
Me: "I'm just chilling it out with my friends, playing some cards."
Me: "Are you single?"
Her: "Yes!"
Me: "Awesome, look, i'm gonna head back to my friends, but do you wanna meet up for a coffee some time?"
Her: "Yes for sure!"
And then i got her digits and gave her a peck on the cheek and said good evening, and she went to the toilet.

Then i played more cards with my friends and when we headed off i told them to go ahead of me and i swung by her table, asked her if i could ask her something real quick, took her hand and led her to the same place i took her digits because we could talk there:

Me: "Hey, so when are you free to meet up, what's your schedule like next week?"
Her: "Ohh im gonna work all the weekdays, but we can do it next weekend"
Me: "Ahh i'm heading off next weekend, what are your work hours like?"
Her: "I'm working 10-20 (i think she said)"
Me: "How's friday after work?"
Her: "hmm maybe"
Me: "Alright i'll shoot you a text and you have my number and we can plan it out"

So i texted her on the spot, read out the message as i typed it in, it went like this:
"Hey, nice to meet you! -name"

And then i said see you and she said she would go do something and i went off.


She haven't replied to my text yet, night's still young, but is there anything i could have improved here, i think i did quite well? I could have had a longer intereaction, but she had to go to the toilet, so rather than her ending the interaction and me stumbling to close, i knew time was limited, and wanted to maintain frame and be the one to close on a high note.

I took her hand and lead her through the venue (compliance and investment) and pecked her on the cheek (kino, but not validating her too much and leaving her wanting more, while still setting a physical precedent). I'm just gonna postpone my plans next weekend and get her on Saturday if necessary.

My sticking point right now is that i need to reduce flakes by getting more investment and to qualify girls more. Already did improve in that regard on the last daygame approach i did today. I also heard numbers from night game are more flakey because of harder state-shifting compared to daygame. Is this true? She wasn't a party girl, just a mature woman out with her friend circle at a bar.

 

[Toby2030]

You are very direct. As you say yourself - longer interactions with more qualification before you number close her. Instead of being sold on her right from the start, you should evaluate her. "You seem cool, but are you xx" "By far you are more interesting than I expected." types of intent". Throw in more hoops.

From that interaction you don't really know who she is. Try to figure it if she really is someone you would spend time with.

Start with the above. Next you could try moving away from very polarizing openers. https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-hook-girls-pt1-pre-opener https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-hook-girls-pt3-building-intrigue

 

[Skjöldr]

You are very direct. As you say yourself - longer interactions with more qualification before you number close her. Instead of being sold on her right from the start, you should evaluate her. "You seem cool, but are you xx" "By far you are more interesting than I expected." types of intent". Throw in more hoops.

From that interaction you don't really know who she is. Try to figure it if she really is someone you would spend time with.

Start with the above. Next you could try moving away from very polarizing openers. https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-hook-girls-pt1-pre-opener https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-hook-girls-pt3-building-intrigue

I always go with direct openers honestly, that's just my style. I shoulda teased her with some push pull like "Oh you're going to a party? Only bad girls go to parties, you're bad, we could never work out!" And then qualify her later on like "Oh so you do this and this? Okay nvm, you're not as bad as i thought, i'll give you a chance"

Will see where this leads

 

[Skjöldr]

Should i call her or text her? I need more investment, qualifying and rapport i think... I wanna try and experiment with making phone calls

 

[Toby2030]

It's all good if that's how you want to do it. Just keep in mind that If she isn't interested from the start you will get rejected. That's the problem with direct openers. She's forced to make a decision about you right from the start. Direct game can give you very fast pulls but a little more indirect game can increase your approach to lay %.

She don't know you and you most likely only have very low compliance from her side - you haven't really talked with her you have gone from open straight to close. I don't think she'll pick up the phone if you call her. Shot her a text, - ping value into the void, and if she start answering quickly and you are sure she's somewhere where she is able to talk to you, I would call her.

 

[cruiser]

Not bad man!
so flakes happen. They happen to everyone. Anyone who says they get 0 flakes are full of shit. some things you can do to reduce flakes: is be more interesting!

it also seems like she was following your lead almost waiting for you to pull! Nice

so I honestly think you could have tried and pulled her there back to your place if she was following you around. Also I wouldn’t do the peck on the cheek thing. It screams you want her more than she wants you. If anything you could try and go for a make out. But I usually only go for a make out if I can escalate right then and there.

good luck hope you can set something up with her