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What are high-status, expensive-looking , extreme über successful guy high-end-looking clothes exactly?

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1) Is it expensive business casual clothes, an expensive suit or just clothes that look like they are expensive?

2) Wouldn't it be much easier to display the abovementioned qualities with business casual or business attire rather than the bad boy attire, although it's possible to do it with the bad boy attire, it would be more difficult, wouldn't it? So does it mean that it's better to go for the business casual or business attire vs the bad boy attire for somebody who is a noob in style in order to more succesfully display the qualities previously mentioned if we are talking about approaching normal women?
 

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While business casual or business can display an attractive set of qualities (assuming you got color, fit, etc handled), they lack the inherent sexuality of bad boys attire.

So you look good, you look proficient, you look sociable but not necessarily sexy.

If you are OK with that and plan to compensate with your game, you can go ahead.
 

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Is your goal to attract gold diggers? Even if it is you dont need to go expensive, companies like zara biz model is to take super expensive designer clothing and sale for affordable prices and if you spent couple of bucks with tailoring, and you have a look, game over..... more than blindly spend money on clothing have a niche of women you want to target, develop a sexy archeotype, based on that archeotype start getting a look... for example i dress like in the 30 masculine sexy clubber for my target and demographic, i dress like magic fox and get ideas from his instagram.... couple of my seducer friends that target 18 year old girls have the new trend of baggy, and tats...
 

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I wonder what uber successful looks like to you

Bc if you have a high degree of autonomy, a huge measure of success, you might find yourself just wearing whats comfortable and not giving a fuck. Look for the guy lookin relaxed in the nice restaurant in sweatpants, not a sport coat.
 

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The most expensive thing a man can wear is a watch.

So if all you want is to look wealthy without being it, I would suggest buying and wearing a fake Rolex (because it's pretty much the only watch brand women are able to recognize).

The same thinking goes for other items (shoes, jacket...), basically what is expensive looking are brands people know are expensive (Gucci, Hermès, Balenciaga...). But if you only had to choose one item to convey financial success, it would the watch, it's the most "honest" (and fakeable lol) signal and you don't need to be an expert in style to make it work.

All that said, I am not sure faking financial success is the best path regarding self-confidence and retention of women.
 
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The most expensive thing a man can wear is a watch.

So if all you want is to look wealthy without being it, I would suggest buying and wearing a fake Rolex (because it's pretty much the only watch brand women are able to recognize).

The same thinking goes for other items (shoes, jacket...), basically what is expensive looking are brands people know are expensive (Gucci, Hermès, Balenciaga...). But if you only had to choose one item to convey financial success, it would the watch, it's the most "honest" (and fakeable lol) signal and you don't need to be an expert in style to make it work.

All that said, I am not sure faking financial success is the best path regarding self-confidence and retention of women.
I have a Rolex. Women don’t give a shit. The ones who do are the ones you want to avoid.

Also, Omega watches are better (and less expensive) than Rolex.

OP, trying to dress “rich” to impress women is a really dumb strategy. Work on your fundamentals.
 

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Regarding the rich topic

Moving outside the baller luxury brands, most women would probably not know good quality menswear.

But I do believe you can see/perceive a difference in well constructed clothing. They're also more durable and last longer and may impart confidence

With style, unless you're doing something weird/have a vibe, usually only a certain threshold is needed to be hit. But there are bonuses

Savvy + good items = payoff

If you start walking around town in a boxy cheap suit from Men's Wearhouse, you're going to have a tough time. Or maybe any suit at all these days in US, we are an informal, low context culture. A sportscoat may even be pushing it.

Alternatively, flimsy jeans from Wal Mart would be a tough wear, as well.

Usually we find ourselves operating within the realm of the word 'casual.' Having said that, and having good quality pieces, it is important to understand the pieces you choose. For example, for people who understand it, it would be strange to wear a gingham shirt in late fall/winter, or a black and orange flannel in Spring. I would suggest understanding the garment/material before wearing it.

Beyond season, color and material also tend to matter as much to time of day, function and event, not withstanding your own complexion/skin color/eye color/hair color.

It's actually not that hard, though. Especially given that contemporary america will only usually have a certain mostly informal range of possibilities.

Season, situation, time of day, and your own configuration. Match well constructed, good garments to these concepts, and I think you'll be doing very well indeed.

Edit goes without saying they need to fit
 

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I have a Rolex. Women don’t give a shit. The ones who do are the ones you want to avoid.

Also, Omega watches are better (and less expensive) than Rolex.

OP, trying to dress “rich” to impress women is a really dumb strategy. Work on your fundamentals.
I think the smarter and better educated ones notice the watch without talking about it.

Anyways, I will probably never buy a Rolex myself, because I don't like that brand. But I have a good friend who does exactly what I described, he has a fake Rolex and run some variations of conspicuous consumption game, he is very flamboyant during the courtship.

And he bangs girls left and right, so I can attest this could work well. But he has problems with self-confidence and retention.
Therefore I wouldn't say this is an outright dumb strategy (it does get you laid), but rather that this is a strategy that comes with a whole set of drawbacks.
 
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The most expensive thing a man can wear is a watch.

So if all you want is to look wealthy without being it, I would suggest buying and wearing a fake Rolex (because it's pretty much the only watch brand women are able to recognize).

The same thinking goes for other items (shoes, jacket...), basically what is expensive looking are brands people know are expensive (Gucci, Hermès, Balenciaga...). But if you only had to choose one item to convey financial success, it would the watch, it's the most "honest" (and fakeable lol) signal and you don't need to be an expert in style to make it work.

All that said, I am not sure faking financial success is the best path regarding self-confidence and retention of women.
Again you do not need to be flashing your gold watch, a rich man does not have to say he is rich... flashing wealth and posetions dries vaginas.. women will judge you by honest signals and subcommunications...
 
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Again you do not need to be flashing your gold watch, a rich man does not have to say he is rich... flashing wealth and posetions dries vaginas.. women will judge you by honest signals and subcommunications...
OP's question was "how to fake and flash wealth". You don't need to fake and flash wealth, but you can.

And there is not a direct causality between wealth display and vaginas dryness, as Chase explained in the linked article, and as I can testify with my friend and other examples. If you display wealth and at the same time display other attractive behavioral qualities, it doesn't cancel out.

Women have uncanny and god-like ability to detect honest biological signals and social signals in small settings (ie. fundamentals), but it appears they are very naive regarding all the signals that concern the extanded social order (eg. the financial position of one given guy in society).

I know plenty of women who complains because they have been with guys that have lied to them regarding their financial situation. And I don't think anyone will challenge the fact that it is possible to successfully lie to women regarding that specific subject.
 
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OP's question was "how to fake and flash wealth". You don't need to fake and flash wealth, but you can.

And there is not a direct causality between wealth display and vaginas dryness, as Chase explained in the linked article, and as I can testify with my friend and other examples. If you display wealth and at the same time display other attractive behavioral qualities, it doesn't cancel out.

Women have uncanny and god-like ability to detect honest biological signals and social signals in small settings (ie. fundamentals), but it appears they are very naive regarding all the signals that concern the extanded social order (eg. the financial position of one given guy in society).

I know plenty of women who complains because they have been with guys that have lied to them regarding their financial situation. And I don't think anyone will challenge the fact that it is possible to successfully lie to women regarding that specific subject.
I agree... i have seen guys use wealth or signs of wealth to bang a lot of chics

Tho they struggle with retention and LTRs some times
 

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OP's question was "how to fake and flash wealth". You don't need to fake and flash wealth, but you can.

And there is not a direct causality between wealth display and vaginas dryness, as Chase explained in the linked article, and as I can testify with my friend and other examples. If you display wealth and at the same time display other attractive behavioral qualities, it doesn't cancel out.

Women have uncanny and god-like ability to detect honest biological signals and social signals in small settings (ie. fundamentals), but it appears they are very naive regarding all the signals that concern the extanded social order (eg. the financial position of one given guy in society).

I know plenty of women who complains because they have been with guys that have lied to them regarding their financial situation. And I don't think anyone will challenge the fact that it is possible to successfully lie to women regarding that specific subject.
Yes my wing primo runs this type if game my point was that saying things such as "i an successful doctor, i drive a mercedes, i have a rolex" can be seen as try hard and is a turn off.... tinder swindler does this type of game, there is a netflix documentary on this... main problem is you dont get that raw sexual attraction that you get with a regular type seduction..
 

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Yes my wing primo runs this type if game my point was that saying things such as "i an successful doctor, i drive a mercedes, i have a rolex" can be seen as try hard and is a turn off.... tinder swindler does this type of game, there is a netflix documentary on this... main problem is you dont get that raw sexual attraction that you get with a regular type seduction..
Yes my friend also is really driving a mercedes and he is really a kind of doctor, he only fakes the watch. So it's not really "saying it", it's more like "showing it" with social intelligence and not being try hard, and consciously doing so because this indeed has an effect on girls.

Same principle goes for taking a bottle in a nightclub and being in the VIP section, it also works well to very easily initiate interaction with girls. All that sort of stuff are kind of DHVs, but a seduction cannot rely only on DHVs, it's only part of it.

And he bangs an enormous amount of girls but he is also complaining that girls are not as naughty as he would like to in bed. But it really weird because some girls legitimately fall in love with him, and in the twinder swindler documentary girls also appear to have fallen in love with the guy. So maybe love is different from raw sexual attraction. I don't know. I found that to be an interesting question from a theoretical perspective.
 
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Yes my friend also is really driving a mercedes and he is really a kind of doctor, he only fakes the watch. So it's not really "saying it", it's more like "showing it" with social intelligence and not being try hard, and consciously doing so because this indeed has an effect on girls.

Same principle goes for taking a bottle in a nightclub and being in the VIP section, it also works well to very easily initiate interaction with girls. All that sort of stuff are kind of DHVs, but a seduction cannot rely only on DHVs, it's only part of it.

And he bangs an enormous amount of girls but he is also complaining that girls are not as naughty as he would like to in bed. But it really weird because some girls legitimately fall in love with him, and in the twinder swindler documentary girls also appear to have fallen in love with the guy. So maybe love is different from raw sexual attraction. I don't know. I found that to be an interesting question from a theoretical perspective.
They are not really falling in love with them, they are falling a love with a fake future projection of their future lifestyle...all these guys complain about the same...
 

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Im a business consultant and work with a lot of rich guys. I can assure you many of these dudes aren’t getting laid even when they have a Rolex and Ferrari in the garage.

There are certain social groups that money unlocks and therefor you get access to those women.

There are also women who will fuck guys who have money but it isn’t because they are attracted to them.

Wealth is an enhancer. Combine it with good game and it’s a winning combination but trying to rely on “showing off wealth” without game is a receipt for a let down.
 

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If you cannot afford the look, it will be hard to look congruent. Also consider that when you have really made it whatever you wear IS the style. (see The Emperor's New Clothes, or Steve Jobs).
 

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Can be done in many ways.

i personally have an outfit where i dress a-lister style - think how movie-stars dress on a sunday going to the grocery shop to get stuff but avoid attention. Brad pitt going for some bread during the wknd.

Oversized colorful winther jacked(good quali).
cap
sunglasses (well chosen w edge and slight upper class look)
athlecio wear pants and shoes
a nice "cashmier type" shirt - bought cheaply at a particular private brand type place (a zara-like+ shopping place as skills write at a sale) where they make copies of more expensive ones.
a well exposed glittery style silver necklace
+ im well groomed aka styled in beard,face and hair

im a lil inside focussed as if im almost avoiding people or just oosing in myself confidently emperor style.

Girls eat me up when i dress like this. And im not a pretty guy - this is all attitude/vibe and styling choices.

my design has little hints of more that catches their eyes eg the well exposed well chosen necklace, sun glass choice, the quality of my outfit, the covered upness, the cashmir-like shirt. Multiple quality marks and instigators of home together sunday cuddling which makes girls wanna cozy up.

needless to say i add in beahvior like active disinteres, low attention radius etc. As if A-lister.

And the gold digger side is like... It will attract all types of girls, jsut do your screenings and realise its a luxury problem if you have to sort golddiggers out. And who cares if its just to bang her.

And note that im not "dressing up" for this. I am this. Meaning i carrie it well and i KNOW the outfit is just a part of this expression im creating. behavior is king. underlying role ownership is king.
 

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While business casual or business can display an attractive set of qualities (assuming you got color, fit, etc handled), they lack the inherent sexuality of bad boys attire.

So you look good, you look proficient, you look sociable but not necessarily sexy.

If you are OK with that and plan to compensate with your game, you can go ahead.
So would you say to look a sexy as possible dress as a badboy rather than in a three piece suit?
 

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This is the thing that I've been unable to make my mind on: which fashion look to choose. I'm a Rock/Metal Guitarist so I really want to rock the badboy rocker look with the leather boots and leather jacket but when I go out maybe it would be best to dress up more classy/smart with the whole blazer and nice shirt thing as i've seen that the women who go out dressed to the nines tend to prefer men dressed up like that? Or can I pick both for different times of the day? I don't know, I have no idea what to do.
 
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