What do you think of my voice?

[Ryan]

I've been trying to improve my voice this afternoon, following the guidance of Chase's article here:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/book- ... sexy-voice

And i've made a recording of it just now, found in the new blog i've made for my recordings here:

http://girlschaseryan.wordpress.com/

I was reading the article above, until that advertisement popped up (encouraging you to be a member for 99cents), and i couldn't read anymore. What do you guys honestly think of my voice? Personally, i don't like my english accent very much, but i'll continue to practise deepening my voice and speaking slower. You could tell i was struggling with this new voice; i was stuttering on a few words.




Everyday, i will now record my approaches with my new microphone I got (it was given to me by my school because i got dyslexia). You can find the recordings of my approaches on my blog, or my journal on the Journals board.

Thank you for your critiques

 

[Oskar]

Great voice Ryan, you have a charming accent! Little hesitant in the reading and a little over-purry perhaps, but it already sounds pretty good. For the next ones I'd focus on better pacing. Ideally when you speak it should sound like poetry -- with good meter and good rhythm (though rhyme might be a bit of an overkill )

Best,
Oskar

 

[Ryan]

Wow, i have a charming accent? I'm genuinely flattered, really.

So do you think i should leave improving the depth/tone of my voice and just focus on the rhythm/pace? I wasn't happy with my voice because i didn't sound anything like attractive British actors (Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan, Christian Bale, etc), but maybe its a maturity thing and it'll get better when i grow older (i'm still only 18).

 

[Oskar]

do you think i should leave improving the depth/tone of my voice and just focus on the rhythm/pace?

Depth and tone are obviously very important -- and tone more so than depth. With depth you should be careful not to go unnaturally deep though, a mistake I see some guys making and sometimes sticking with long into their seduction careers. Their unnatural depth betrays artifice and can make them seem more try-hard to socially calibrated men and women. Making your voice sound the best it can at a comfortable pitch should override making it sound as masculine as you can, as it's better to be higher pitched than be perceived as try-hard (as that's how more socially astute men and women may perceive you). Depth doesn't seem to be a huge problem with your voice, it's about the same pitch as mine actually, which perhaps makes me somehow biased

Tone is a bit more ephemeral and has a lot more to do with your attitude than anything. A matter-of-fact, unwavering tone comes from experience, though that's not to say you can't emulate one to at least an intermediate degree. But when you are nervous and inexperienced, you will be hard pressed to more or less sound that way in trying situations.

The biggest thing for me in getting my voice sounding how I wanted it (though it can always be better. Better to think of it like leveling up while recognizing that there is no top level.) was focusing on slowing down and trying to not speak in little bursts by focusing on a steady rhythm.

As an aside, way cool that your working on this stuff and your only 18! If you implement what you learn here consistently there's no way you're not going to be killing it in a few years.

Best,
Oskar

 

[flowerpower]

Since Oskar said "great voice!", let me be blunt: I don't like it, at least in this excerpt (as I'm typing I'm wondering if I'm not making a mistake telling you this like that). Anyway, aside from the pacing and intonation issues Oskar mentioned, which really are tremendously important, you're not projecting, your voice is in your throat. Many guys focus too much on getting a lower voice, which you can't really do. Even Chase, in my opinion, seems to be pushing his lows a little, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he got a sore throat at times. What you can do on the other hand, what you should do, is try to free it. A freer voice not only will be able to reach slightly lower tones (because the tension won't prevent it) but it'll also be a richer voice, with ringing overtones, and will be able to modulate much more. What I've found is a beautiful voice or a sexy voice doesn't need to be low. A guy's tenor voice, if free, will be much more appealing than another guy's tense basso profundo.

Project your voice. Which doesn't mean pushing it. Breathe, focus on relaxing your muscles (way easier said than done), don't be afraid to be heard.
Listen to great voices and pay attention to rhythm, cadence, intonation... Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE

You might find some help in books on the subject by pros like acting coaches Patsy Rodenburg or Kristin Linklater. And singing lessons would be very useful I think.

 

[PinotNoir]

I actually like it and can see women liking it, but this is coming from an American perspective. Women in your area may just think it sounds like any other voice.

Pros:

• You talk slowly and smoothly (not too fast or too slow)
• It sounds warm and friendly

Cons:

• You could go a tiny notch deeper (if too deep, it may sound put on, so be careful)
• It doesn't sound like we're in the bedroom

I also don't hear any deep "purring" as Chase mentions, but that's hard to achieve, and I only get a purr if I'm really focusing on it.

I don't have any great examples bookmarked, so I just searched a couple on youtube:

George Clooney
Daniel Craig (May have to turn volume way up with headphones)

They have a very subtle, deep purr that is great.

Admittedly, I'm still working on my voice, but over the phone, women always compliment me. I don't know why. Maybe I'm just less nervous and can focus on my voice more solidly. A voice like the above just draws women in. I've been in bed/couch or on dates with women sitting in booths where I've focused on my voice, and it just sucks her closer to you like a strong gravitational pull (and include strong eye contact). I mainly focus on the bedroom voice when I deliver some type of innuendo or sexual suggestion.

 

[Ryan]

Thanks PinotNoir for the feedback. You're right, foreign women (and english women with vastly different accents) seem to love my voice. But i do doubt they perceive it as sexy. They just like it as it's typically 'english' and women seem to like english accents for some bizarre reason.

I've tried talking like the examples you provided, but it's very hard. The more i try to project my voice and relax into it, the higher/less manly it becomes (without shouting). I naturally talk with the voice coming from the back of my mouth/top of my throat. The deeper, and more manly i make my voice (with added purr), whereby i hence try to get my voice from the middle or lower parts of my throat, my voice cannot rise above a whisper and it begins to sound a bit raspy. I can feel strain on my vocal cords if i try to increase the volume of this manly voice.

 

[PinotNoir]

Yes, it's work. Luckily, it's easy to practice. Practice when talking with friends, coworkers/classmates, strangers, cashiers/servers, etc. Always be practicing.

Recording is a great tool that you have, and I think that kind of immediate feedback will help you.

Try singing songs in a low baritone/bass. Get your vocal chords used to a lower resonance.

Do a low hum or a "mmmm" and then try to match your voice to it.

At the same time, realize that your voice isn't going to hold you back. Your voice is fine, and you do a good job of making it smooth and slow, and it's deep/low enough that it's obvious you're a man. Work on other fundamentals that are easier if this one becomes a burden.

I find that practicing is best with strangers. With friends, they're already used to a certain pitch and will comment on weird pitch changes. A cashier at a store has no idea, and you'll only see her/him for a few seconds.

Also, if you approach enough, try one approach with the "raspy" voice (it may only sound raspy to you), and try another approach with your normal voice. Try it out and base decisions on your results instead of conjecture/theory. If a girl says "wow, what a sexy voice" or something similar, just know that you're golden then.

 

[Marty]

Okay, mister Ryan, I'm not going to sugar-coat, so brace yourself

Your intonation has way too much "oooh, have a look at these, aren't they simply LOVELY!" wonderment about it. That doesn't really have masculine associations. Plus you have some prissy enunciation of the consonants going on there that is reminiscent, in Brit terms, of the Miliband brothers (that's not a compliment)!

My suggestion is to intone in a more commanding, authoritative, matter-of-fact, to-hell-with-the-consequences way. Here are some good examples:

• Chase's recent podcast
  
  Gold-Digger Prank
  
  Tyler from RSD

I've chosen these not just because they all impressed me with their masculinity and self-assurance, but also because they are all different in terms of accent. Chase has a General American, Midwestern-type voice but just listen to what he does with it—far from "regular". You wouldn't want to mess with this guy. (Angel Donovan on the same podcast—I've no idea, sounds vaguely New Zealand-like and pretty self-assured too.) The Lamborghini guy I'd guess is from Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, somewhere around there, doesn't matter... just listen to that gravel, that resonance, that tone of command. Tyler is evidently Canadian and though he's quicker-paced and less suave than many other seducers, his no-nonsense speech pattern is undeniably masculine too.

Hope this helps a little!

-Marty

 

[Ryan]

Hey, thanks Marty and PinotNoir, your posts were really helpful in encouraging me and helping me find a better voice.

With the help of the audio you gave me, along with this interesting article, i've been improving my voice this evening:

http://www.goodrichvocal.com/backstage- ... ral-voice/

Although I was able to improve my voice somewhat, it still sounds a bit nasal, especially when I elongate my vowels ('ee's certainly). And my breathing sounds too loud. I'm now breathing from my diaphragm, rather than my chest, which i think makes a difference. I'm also trying to pronounce words clearer while slowing down the pace of words, relaxing my shoulders and chest too. I think i was starting to slip into old habits at the end.

My voice recording:
http://girlschaseryan.wordpress.com/201 ... d-attempt/


I'm reading from the same article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/book- ... sexy-voice but the italicised part.

I really hope i don't sound like a Miliband brother now

 

[Ryan]

double post