What is it like to have elite fundamentals?

[James D]

I've experienced the boost in attraction from improving a few fundamentals like fashion and facial expressions.

Yet I'm nowhere near having elite fundamentals.

I wonder how do women react around men with top level fundamentals?

 

[ulrich]

I think fundamentals experience decreasing incremental returns.
You will see the biggest difference in results when you implement a fundamental that you have neglected forever.

At elite level, it really does not make a huge difference if you're good with fashion vs. if you're the best dressed man in the world.
Actually killer fundamentals can trigger autorejection in more modest/shy girls though that's not a huge issue.

There's an inflection point where it is more efficient to shift your focus and spend your time learning to manage attainability and compliance rather than perfecting your fundamentals.

 

[ulrich]

As to how it looks to have killer fundamentals... I can only think of looking at some of the most popular actors like Chris Hemsworth, George Clooney or Brad Pitt.... maybe even David Beckham.

Those guys have killer presence, body language and a big happy sexy energy around them.

The bad thing is that they are famous so itis reallyimpossible to remove the halo effectfrom one's mind when observing them.

 

[hotsauce]

i don't think elite fundamentals are enough. having elite fundamentals is almost try hard. i've met so many male dimes that have dog shit game. i've been eyed by many good looking girls w guys that i thought were wayyy better looking than me lol and had objectively better fundamentals. my vibe > ur fundamentals ha

 

[Militarybrat]

It depends on what a woman likes that said I just do me. I can rock a suit and tie, a tux. and whatever so called high fashion. I prefer to be me Texan and I rock it cowboy hat, white tee shirt, boot cut jeans, belt with big buckle, cowboy boots, stubble on my face. The things I wear are an honest reflection of the lifestyle I live not a look for being fake. I am a Bad Boy always have been and when I choose to have a females panties in my teeth with the quickness I get what I want. "Elite Fundamentals" I don't know it is just me rough and ready.

Brat

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

I wonder how do women react around men with top level fundamentals?

You mean muscles, haircut, cologne, and clothes?

Or deeply rooted self esteem that manifests in the proper unconscious behavior? (such as facial expressions)

WIA

 

[James D]

You mean muscles, haircut, cologne, and clothes?

Or deeply rooted self esteem that manifests in the proper unconscious behavior? (such as facial expressions)

WIA

WIA,

Both but especially "deeply rooted self-esteem that manifests in the proper unconscious behavior"

James

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

WIA,

Both but especially "deeply rooted self-esteem that manifests in the proper unconscious behavior"

James

Have you ever seen a jock around a bunch of girls? That's what it looks like.

He doesn't need to be particularly handsome, just handsome enough. His confidence is irratonal, delusional, and he doesn't really know any sort of "social boundary". And the girls just sort of fall into line in reaction, not knowing "how he's going to make them feel". None of this is about what he says, because the typical "dumb jock" doesn't say anything clever. His "vibe" makes others laugh, more so than his words.

The jock isn't thinking, scheming, calculating, or planning. He just is.

Naturals don't necessarily have "rock solid" confidence like a jock might. They might have domain specific confidence, the domain just happens to be women.

They are "naturally" good with women because they've mastered the subtext and nonverbal things. In terms of actions, it's a lot of what is not said, but what is done, and the situations he puts the girls in, and the emotional reactions.

In both cases, the girls aren't truly responding "logically" to the "words being said", they're just emotionally reacting - and both guys are pushing the reactions.

WIA

 

[petabigboss]

I've experienced the boost in attraction from improving a few fundamentals like fashion and facial expressions.

Yet I'm nowhere near having elite fundamentals.

I wonder how do women react around men with top level fundamentals?

High Compliance+ they initiate momentum themselves sometimes. Proximity and stuff.