What is the 2nd gen of physical game??

[SexManiac]

I was reading one of the great posts I have found on internet and this one was from the "thecostofsuccess" in NextASF.

The name of the post was: *Crash course in verbals for those unfamiliar* by "thecostofsuccess"


This post has a lot to discuss, a lot of still contradicting topics in the community but regardless of who is right or who is not, this post brings to awareness those contradicting points and specially the evolution of pick up. I think we don't see much of similar posts like this in skilledseducers forum since NextASF.

I actually loved the point of Skills360, *Skills* said that we can accomplish the goals of most 2nd gen verbal game with non verbal game only, that is very interesting for me cause I have been experiencing that same kind of hypothesis. Most of my progress have been in the non verbal area which I was thinking it wasn't. I have been always obsessed with verbal game because that is what I thought I was missing but I get wrong every single time and most of my breakthroughs come from the non verbal area. I lost a lot of time in my journey trying to think and find the best Opener to say, pick up lines, witty lines, hundreds of lines, I almost used every opener on internet because I was not getting enough positive reactions. It was needed hundreds of openings in the field to realize that what I was missing were non verbal aspects and when I fixed non verbals, my opening Skills skyrocket, and I was needing any verbal line at all, no matter what I said it most of the time got a positive reactions (compliance). Every single time I am experiencing the same issue that I thought I need to learn verbal things to make things work but it is actually non verbal skills what is needed. Opening is done, now I am embracing the same thing with escalation and sexualization. I have been learning most of Teevster's sex talk and UMP sexual Hoops Progression, beside those techniques are fucking great, I haven't seen something more powerful to sexualize than "Strong Sexual Eye Contact", Girls just get addicted to you. You see? Another point to the non verbal world of seduction. I can see there is a whole room and empty space still for me in the non verbal stuff, my mind can not see it yet but since I have been experiencing this way of solving my own issues in game I have a lot of faith that the biggest next realizations in game will be in the non verbal areas of Game.

Right now there are only one area I am working on in game and that is SEXUALIZING and ESCALATING.

I wasn't in the NextASF and even less in mASF so I lost a lot of value there. I am pretty good at verbal sexualizing thanks to Teevster and other guys but I am still missing the Physical Game, but this post sparks me.

I would appreciate if you guys like Skills, Bachus, Teevster, Gun, Glow, Chase and the others can explain me what is the 2nd gen of Physical Game that "thecostofsuccess"/Cody was talking about. This looks fascinating

 

[Skills]

I was reading one of the great posts I have found on internet and this one was from the "thecostofsuccess" in NextASF.

The name of the post was: *Crash course in verbals for those unfamiliar* by "thecostofsuccess"


This post has a lot to discuss, a lot of still contradicting topics in the community but regardless of who is right or who is not, this post brings to awareness those contradicting points and specially the evolution of pick up. I think we don't see much of similar posts like this in skilledseducers forum since NextASF.

I actually loved the point of Skills360, *Skills* said that we can accomplish the goals of most 2nd gen verbal game with non verbal game only, that is very interesting for me cause I have been experiencing that same kind of hypothesis. Most of my progress have been in the non verbal area which I was thinking it wasn't. I have been always obsessed with verbal game because that is what I thought I was missing but I get wrong every single time and most of my breakthroughs come from the non verbal area. I lost a lot of time in my journey trying to think and find the best Opener to say, pick up lines, witty lines, hundreds of lines, I almost used every opener on internet because I was not getting enough positive reactions. It was needed hundreds of openings in the field to realize that what I was missing were non verbal aspects and when I fixed non verbals, my opening Skills skyrocket, and I was needing any verbal line at all, no matter what I said it most of the time got a positive reactions (compliance). Every single time I am experiencing the same issue that I thought I need to learn verbal things to make things work but it is actually non verbal skills what is needed. Opening is done, now I am embracing the same thing with escalation and sexualization. I have been learning most of Teevster's sex talk and UMP sexual Hoops Progression, beside those techniques are fucking great, I haven't seen something more powerful to sexualize than "Strong Sexual Eye Contact", Girls just get addicted to you. You see? Another point to the non verbal world of seduction. I can see there is a whole room and empty space still for me in the non verbal stuff, my mind can not see it yet but since I have been experiencing this way of solving my own issues in game I have a lot of faith that the biggest next realizations in game will be in the non verbal areas of Game.

Right now there are only one area I am working on in game and that is SEXUALIZING and ESCALATING.

I wasn't in the NextASF and even less in mASF so I lost a lot of value there. I am pretty good at verbal sexualizing thanks to Teevster and other guys but I am still missing the Physical Game, but this post sparks me.

I would appreciate if you guys like Skills, Bachus, Teevster, Gun, Glow, Chase and the others can explain me what is the 2nd gen of Physical Game that "thecostofsuccess"/Cody was talking about. This looks fascinating

My next video i cover the whole thing with details and samples for now this, i also have a few lay reports in my site doing in text, online and in person(i will cover in video too). What i said was WRONG, if you keep reading cosy told me that i was doing similar in text and that was my aha moment, then teevester came wit his 10 year anniversaty lay report, and i completely bought in

What works and what does not work in seduction now a days In clubs - Featuring Cosy (the cost of success) - The Skills Method

I went through a debauchery period that ended by CHOICE, last week (I got tired of meaningless sex and I met a girl that has tons of potential to be … Continue Reading →

www.theskillsmethod.com

 

[Skills]

Now i advocate physical plus second generation verbals

Bring back physical game part 2.- Featuring ijjjjji containment and 60 yoc secrets of micro escalations

Alright guys i spent the last couple of days going off on a seducer, he couldn't text for shit! his texting improved tremendously, tears come out of my eyes when i saw his texting, he has second generations verbals on point (wayyyyyyy better than me like 50 times he is very technical), he goes...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[SexManiac]

My next video i cover the whole thing with details and samples for now this, i also have a few lay reports in my site doing in text, online and in person(i will cover in video too). What i said was WRONG, if you keep reading cosy told me that i was doing similar in text and that was my aha moment, then teevester came wit his 10 year anniversaty lay report, and i completely bought in

What works and what does not work in seduction now a days In clubs - Featuring Cosy (the cost of success) - The Skills Method

I went through a debauchery period that ended by CHOICE, last week (I got tired of meaningless sex and I met a girl that has tons of potential to be … Continue Reading →

www.theskillsmethod.com

Thank you skills. I will have a look on the content you put there in your site to have a better idea but can you tell me with few sentences what Cosy was saying as the 2nd gen of Physical Game and what is the difference or evolution compared to the 1st gen of Physical Game?? I appreciate that

 

[Skills]

Thank you skills. I will have a look on the content you put there in your site to have a better idea but can you tell me with few sentences what Cosy was saying as the 2nd gen of Physical Game and what is the difference or evolution compared to the 1st gen of Physical Game?? I appreciate that

ok i see you are talking about this:

So it left us to explore escalation and to perfect it
Ijjjji is great at escalation, so am I, so is teevs, so are a lot of guys here
skills is good at escalation, so is pureevil, etc etc
Its the MAIN staple skill
creating bubbles etc, smoothing through resistance by elevating buying temp etc
and to do it right you just need a girls attention, so verbals are not necessary

Because second generation had to develop this authentically sexy skill it became very independent from everything that came before

^ yeah if you go to the post bring back physical game i posted things explaining, like containment, and i posted secret of micro escalations by 60 yoc, and bubbles.... is just pretty much doing and showing different things none verbally through bubbles and stuff.... Like those pulls were you don't say a word and take the girl, that is unlikely to happen now a days....

 

[SexManiac]

ok i see you are talking about this:



^ yeah if you go to the post bring back physical game i posted things explaining, like containment, and i posted secret of micro escalations by 60 yoc, and bubbles.... is just pretty much doing and showing different things none verbally through bubbles and stuff.... Like those pulls were you don't say a word and take the girl, that is unlikely to happen now a days....

The Part that I am talking about is this one:

"Second generation verbal is an evolution from second generation physical game"

Skills, do you have a structure of your physical game?. Because the structure of 60 years of challenge looks like this:

Phase 1- Opening (it doesn't matter for him)
Phase 2- Escalating the vibe (eye contact, getting closer, seductive listening, seductive tone of voice, etc).
Phase 3 - IOM (<-- hand caressing or kiss, making attraction official)
Phase 4 - Sexual Kino
Phase 5 - Pull

In his own words:

""The advice to "get her used to your touch" is complete mental masturbation. You only need one physical move, the IOM. Sure an advanced guy could probably get away with going straight into arousal and skipping the iom, but a beginner or intermediate seducer should work on getting to an iom first before going into arousal phase (using sexual kino). Remember the goal = arousal"

Escalation is Not Scary (It's Only One Move) Opening is much scarier than escalation... Even if you were talking to the hottest woman in the world there would be NO reason to be scared to escalate.Escalation is making the attraction official and escalation is just testing to see if there is attraction there. There is no need to be scared of escalation because IOM escalation is simply grabbing her hand. It's Just ONE Move There is nothing to be afraid of. The rest of escalation is non-verbal (escalating vibe) and can't be officially rejected. You could make a face like like what the fuck are you talking about. The IOM is really about testing to see if there is attraction there (yet?) to make it overt and official. You couldn't use kissing to test for attraction because too many kissrejections would set a bad frame and is harder to do (especially in front of other people). But hand caressing gives you 3 or 4 chances to test discreetly where going for a kiss only 1 or 2 (and it's obvious). Time wasters really hate the mutual hand caress move. So much is communicated when you grab her hand. Once it's on (IOM) escalation (verbal & physical) isn't scary at all because you know she already likes you. You are just trying to arouse her which is mostly mood based anyway.

He always emphasize that there is only one physical move to escalate.

Do you also have a one unique physical move to make attraction official?

 

[Skills]

The Part that I am talking about is this one:


Skills, do you have a structure of your physical game?. Because the structure of 60 years of challenge looks like this:

Phase 1- Opening (it doesn't matter for him)
Phase 2- Escalating the vibe (eye contact, getting closer, seductive listening, seductive tone of voice, etc).
Phase 3 - IOM (<-- hand caressing or kiss, making attraction official)
Phase 4 - Sexual Kino
Phase 5 - Pull

In his own words:



He always emphasize that there is only one physical move to escalate.

Do you also have a one unique physical move to make attraction official?

No one physical move not good a series of micro escalations, proximity, deep voice whispering in her ears, eye contact, holding the hand longer than usual, containment etc....that structure is good too... Back then guys were doing very fast pull at clubs via physical game minimal to no talking (it was a different scenario, different environment, more dtf girls at clubs) this have died down due to societal changes and online dating... So sleazy, 60, cosy, me, ijjjji, and a bunch of other dudes were doing micro escalations and stuff (60 4 books explain most of this)... Anyways here is wm https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/esp-model-of-sexual-escalation.792/

 

[SexManiac]

@Warped Mindless says you have to go physical right away. I don't agree with that. If you start being physical right away you get rejected unless she is a 100% Yes Girl for you. Here are his own words:

Physical Touch
This is my FAVORITE part of my ESP Model because I love to be physical and touch women.
Many guys often wonder how soon they should get physical and start being sexual. The answer often times surprises them. The correct answer is…
Right Away!

This only works if a girl is into you. If you try to Hugh a girl and she rejects it. It is game over. If she acepts it. It is on. This is the type of Game you will be playing using his model. That is not game. That is playing the Numbers Game

 

[Skills]

@Warped Mindless says you have to go physical right away. I don't agree with that. If you start being physical right away you get rejected unless she is a 100% Yes Girl for you. Here are his own words:



This only works if a girl is into you. If you try to Hugh a girl and she rejects it. It is game over. If she acepts it. It is on. This is the type of Game you will be playing using his model. That is not game. That is playing the Numbers Game

Yeah you are right! but you are nitpicking semantics.... lets say i meet a girl and i milk the intro, hold the hand for as long as possible and don't let go (this is an escalation)

 

[Glow]

Sixtys outline holds some keys but knowing his outlined sequence just makes you copy that. a sequence. one trick ponyish.
You need to understand why that sequence works. From there you should be able to create your own using the principles of it. and theres more to it. Hes mainly outlining what he labels micro escalation, sexual tension, vibe escalation etc which are important. But the reason is why.
And he points to some of the dimensions in how some of us apply what cozy labeled second gen escalation.
Understanding it and drilling it can bring about some important truths and results initially. It did for me.

Beware that the technical focus you guys hold makes you blind to the things at play. Look at what happens in between the techniques. feel her in it. feel yourself. This is where seduction unveils itself.

Go play with it. study it. Study sixtys pointers. Observe what happens. Outline it. do the work. And ill comment.

Also beware that theres no divide between second gen verbals and second gen escalation as physical. they work best together and can have different roles. A decent soi stacked delivery is as good as sixtys outline. Combined - even more powerful. Embedded in eloquent indirect verbals such as SOTS and Sex talks even better.