What leverage does men have over women?

[Shake&Bake]

Recently I have been trying to think of things from a women's perspective. And it got me thinking alot of why do this and why do that with a guy. It really helps me realize how powerless alot of men are over women.

For one they don't really need are penis so much as we need the pussy since they have it at arms length

There is no reason to call you back unless you're incredibly resourceful like

No reason to chase you since they will autoreject too quickly and move on

Is it something I'm missing?

 

[GeneralFap]

You're spot on. Before, women needed men to be providers for them so they needed men in order to survive. Now that women can work and provide for themselves they can decide what men they want and not just whichever one is better provider. The top dogs who have power over women (lovers, celebrities, leaders) are now getting laid like never before, while the rest are left fighting for scraps. That means there are a lot of lonely men out there with no prospects who no one cares about. Society doesn't empathize with these men so no it's no surprise when a lot of them end up going apeshit and start shooting schools or joining islamic groups in droves.

 

[Rusty]

That's quite the negative mindset.

Leverage? The language you're using suggests a lot about your mentality and attitude towards women.

It's such a pervasive mindset. Us against them. Men vs. women. This isn't a game, it's not a battle or a competition. Women want to be seduced. They want love and adventure and excitement in their lives. The question is, are you the kind of man that can share that with her.

If you're questioning yourself, unable to bring women into your life, it has everything to do with your mindset and how you live your life. Women gravitate towards men who are attractive, and being attractive means living in a way that has meaning and value to you. In order to find out what kind of meaning and value, you have examine your own goals, your beliefs, your values, your purpose. A man without purpose is a man who will be sorely lacking in attractiveness.

Stop being a giver. Stop being a taker. Be a doer and a leader. A leader takes action and he brings people along for the ride. He shares the experience.

Leverage? If you want to talk about leverage, it's this.

Men who live interesting and meaningful lives filled with purpose and meaning have a leg up on every other man who doesn't do the same. As a natural byproduct, people, not just women, will gravitate to them like a magnet.

 

[Shake&Bake]

Fair Enough

 

[Bboy100]

For one they don't really need are penis so much as we need the pussy since they have it at arms length

I'd like to add that this is only a half-truth. Yes, women technically could get laid every night of the week if they wanted to. But that doesn't mean shit.

Think of it this way...even if you had 10000 fat chicks which all want to sleep with you at a moment's notice, that doesn't really help you too much does it? Yes, there's a lot of them, but their value is literally worthless. So you might as well have none of them. That is the experience most women have with men. Believe me, women go through dry spells too.

So in a sense, a "hot guy" is much scarcer than a "hot girl". Once you become said guy, your sexual experiences become far higher and more frequent quality than that of any women.

 

[Shake&Bake]

For one they don't really need are penis so much as we need the pussy since they have it at arms length

I'd like to add that this is only a half-truth. Yes, women technically could get laid every night of the week if they wanted to. But that doesn't mean shit.

Think of it this way...even if you had 10000 fat chicks which all want to sleep with you at a moment's notice, that doesn't really help you too much does it? Yes, there's a lot of them, but their value is literally worthless. So you might as well have none of them. That is the experience most women have with men. Believe me, women go through dry spells too.

So in a sense, a "hot guy" is much scarcer than a "hot girl". Once you become said guy, your sexual experiences become far higher and more frequent quality than that of any women.

10000 fat chicks is not a bad resource though

 

[Franco]

Shake&Bake,

10000 fat chicks is not a bad resource though

It only holds value to a guy who hasn't trained himself to get attractive, thin chicks.

To me, 10,000 fat chicks holds basically zero value in the realm of sex and dating. It might, however, hold value to me in the realm of business, connections, and pre-selection.

The way I just explained this is also the way women categorize your value. If girls see value in you for things such as business, connections, or pre-selection, then they are going to attempt to leverage those values from you for personal gain. But if you hold value to them in the realm of sex, dating, and relationships (and preferably ONLY those), then women will ONLY seek those things from you.

As a man who is trying to improve himself with women, it's your duty to constantly improve the areas of your own life that allow attractive women to seek you out for the same things you want from them (which are usually sex, dating, and relationships).

- Franco

 

[Man-O]

As a man who is trying to improve himself with women, it's your duty to constantly improve the areas of your own life that allow attractive women to seek you out for the same things you want from them (which are usually sex, dating, and relationships).

- Franco

Just look at Leonardo Dicaprio. Is it 9 Victoria's Secret models he's been with so far? The guy has definetly focused a lot on his career, which has made him very attractive for women. Had he not spent a lot of time on becoming a great actor he wouldn't have girls line up for him. And tmi he's been dating more than one girl at the time.
It does of course accelerate women's attraction towards him, that his field of work is movies.

 

[Franco]

Man-O,

Just look at Leonardo Dicaprio. Is it 9 Victoria's Secret models he's been with so far? The guy has definetly focused a lot on his career, which has made him very attractive for women. Had he not spent a lot of time on becoming a great actor he wouldn't have girls line up for him. And tmi he's been dating more than one girl at the time.
It does of course accelerate women's attraction towards him, that his field of work is movies.

A quote from Ricardus:

Fame is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

Comparing Leonardo DiCaprio to pretty much any other guy on this board is pointless because he has renowned fame. Unless you have a concrete strategy for becoming internationally famous within a two year's timespan, then comparing any actor's success with women to a guy with a non-infamous career is not going to net you anything significant. And just to be clear: it's not Leonardo's money or career that gets him women -- it's his fame.

We inform guys here on how to improve themselves because it's much easier for every type of guy to spend time improving his attractiveness toward women if he wants to succeed with women. It would be much more difficult for us to instruct guys on how to become the next Leondardo DiCaprio in movies -- but if anyone thinks they have a magic formula that will make that happen with high consistency, then please be my guest and share. =)

- Franco

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Celebrity and fame brings you reams of medium to low-high quality pussy. Endless amount, for sure.

But there's another level of woman who are accustomed to fame and fortune. I've literally SEEN a pretty high-level celebrity get thirsty over these kinds of girls and then have these girls say how unimpressed they were by him. "Yeah, he was so thirsty," she told me and scoffed at him.

For every level, there's another devil. Thus, even with fame, there's no substitute for game.

But the ultimate leverage man holds over women? Love.

Women need it just as much as men do, and no matter what a woman tells you, she CRAVES love for a man who gets her pussy wet and leaves her awake at night dreaming of the next chance she has to unravel his mystery and his pants.

Hector

 

[Man-O]

A quote from Ricardus:

Fame is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

Comparing Leonardo DiCaprio to pretty much any other guy on this board is pointless because he has renowned fame. Unless you have a concrete strategy for becoming internationally famous within a two year's timespan, then comparing any actor's success with women to a guy with a non-infamous career is not going to net you anything significant. And just to be clear: it's not Leonardo's money or career that gets him women -- it's his fame.

We inform guys here on how to improve themselves because it's much easier for every type of guy to spend time improving his attractiveness toward women if he wants to succeed with women. It would be much more difficult for us to instruct guys on how to become the next Leondardo DiCaprio in movies -- but if anyone thinks they have a magic formula that will make that happen with high consistency, then please be my guest and share. =)

- Franco

It takes more than 2 years (with quality/focus) to have a great life balanced between getting girls and striving for what you want while becoming good at it. I know it's extreme to mention an actor of great renown in this topic but fact is he worked a lot to get there. Women are pretty much something he got along the track of his career like many others (obviously some field of work makes you more famous than others).

I want to emphasize the importance of not being dependent on woman by focusing on what you like in your OWN life (career, hubbies and friends) and that is what I see as ultimate leverage. Because the other side of pu is where you mainly focus on getting girls but not nessecarily improving your own life, however you do achieve the craving validation. That's not leverage in my eyes as it can be unstable and less controlable than the first type who prioritizes just as much or more stuff besides women (obviously professional pua's are an exception to some extent as it's their job).

 

[Shake&Bake]

Celebrity and fame brings you reams of medium to low-high quality pussy. Endless amount, for sure.

But there's another level of woman who are accustomed to fame and fortune. I've literally SEEN a pretty high-level celebrity get thirsty over these kinds of girls and then have these girls say how unimpressed they were by him. "Yeah, he was so thirsty," she told me and scoffed at him.

For every level, there's another devil. Thus, even with fame, there's no substitute for game.

But the ultimate leverage man holds over women? Love.

Women need it just as much as men do, and no matter what a woman tells you, she CRAVES love for a man who gets her pussy wet and leaves her awake at night dreaming of the next chance she has to unravel his mystery and his pants.

Hector

One day Im going to go to one of the hottest clubs around and pay all the men money. to not approach any women and see how mad they get lol!

 

[Big Daddy]

Celebrity and fame brings you reams of medium to low-high quality pussy. Endless amount, for sure.

But there's another level of woman who are accustomed to fame and fortune. I've literally SEEN a pretty high-level celebrity get thirsty over these kinds of girls and then have these girls say how unimpressed they were by him. "Yeah, he was so thirsty," she told me and scoffed at him.

For every level, there's another devil. Thus, even with fame, there's no substitute for game.

But the ultimate leverage man holds over women? Love.

Women need it just as much as men do, and no matter what a woman tells you, she CRAVES love for a man who gets her pussy wet and leaves her awake at night dreaming of the next chance she has to unravel his mystery and his pants.

Hector

Thanks, very insightful post.