What to do when girls use your own material against you?

[Mr Mistah]

An odd thing keeps happening to me and I'm not quite sure how to address it.

While running slowburn social circle game, I usually flirt with the girls I'm after by laying on the chase frames thick with statements like;

Aww did you miss me? Look how happy you are to see me

Why are you standing so close to me? Are you trying to (implied sexual activity)?

(When she pushes for us to go get drinks) Why? Trying to get me drunk so you can take advantage of me huh?

And so on and so forth.

Basically, I say a lot of things that paint her as the sexual aggressor. I also use a lot of sexual misinterpretation.

The girls usually eat it up and our interactions start having heavy but playful sexual undertones fast.

Problem is... after a while of being exposed to me, the girls pick up on my shtick and start using my own lines on me!

They start chase framing me and while I've tried to counter their frames, I find it incredibly difficult to keep up because I am basically gaming myself!

Its like some twisted game of verbal aikido/jiujitsu where your opponents use your own force against you.

Do you guys relate to any of this and how do you defend yourself when a chick uses chase frames on you?

A statement that has been working for me now is, "Hey! You can't use my own lines on me." but I feel that after using t 3/4 times it starts to lose its power.

I need a more fullproof strategy.

Bonus Q; What is would be your go to response to the question Did you miss me? said all suggestively. They reeeeallly love dropping that one on me lmao

 

[ulrich]

Let me get this straight… you are flirting with the women in your social circle using chase frames.
Are you fucking them or not?

I find more troublesome the fact that they don’t want to fall under your frame again which points out to:

1) You missed some escalation windows and now they are less compliant than before which may mean you lost your chance.

2) You’re overusing this one technique.

 

[StrayDog]

agree with @ulrich here. you cant just be sitting around your social circle using chase frames all the time, with out also generating forward momentum on your seduction. Otherwise it just becomes a shtick, looks try hard, and is ultimately predictable. No wonder they have learned to turn it on you. It's just a gimmick to them. They are kind of teasing the fact you do it all the time. its like "wink wink nudge nudge am I right? am I right?"

How many times has this technique in social circle really panned out for you? as much times as it's backfired?

A statement that has been working for me now is, "Hey! You can't use my own lines on me." but I feel that after using t 3/4 times it starts to lose its power.

so you are basically openly admitting to them that you are using lines on them, as a means of counteracting the fact the have figured you out and are teasing you with it?

yeah that's definitely not going to look obvious (except obviously it is)

Bonus Q; What is would be your go to response to the question Did you miss me? said all suggestively. They reeeeallly love dropping that one on me lmao

I am going to venture that perhaps the "suggestive" tone she is giving you is actually her teasing you. Many women will tease a guy they know is trying to game them all hard. Unless these women are genuinely chasing, in which case you should have no problem leading them to bed. Chances are though...

Any way. I often respond to "did you miss me" with "only as much as you wanted me to" basically dodges actually having to answer and reframe it as that she wants me to miss her.

 

[Mr Mistah]

Let me get this straight… you are flirting with the women in your social circle using chase frames.
Are you fucking them or not?

We aren't there yet.

I am running a slow burn seduction because circumstances don't allow me to be too hasty.

Why?

Because its the workplace.

I find more troublesome the fact that they don’t want to fall under your frame

They love the flirtation and this technique has allowed me to sexualise our interactions so I would say my frames actually work well.

So much that everytime I get to work the girls start beaming like 100 watt bulbs.

My only issues is that during flirtation they sometimes playfully try to use those frames on me and I struggle to counter effectively.

They are kind of teasing the fact you do it all the time. its like "wink wink nudge nudge am I right? am I right?"

How many times has this technique in social circle really panned out for you? as much times as it's backfired?

I understand what you're saying but the vibe is usually playful and flirty. Not tooling per se. As I mentioned this is an office seduction so I intentionally leave my foot of the gas pedal.

How may times has this panned out? Well this is my first time running office game so idk.

So far so good though. I'm at the point where girls are asking where I stay and suggesting that we do stuff during the weekend etc.

 

[Chase]

@Mr Mistah,

Any technique, overused, leads to inflation:

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This is why you save a lot of your best stuff for when you are "going for the kill." You don't deep dive too much before you're on a date where you intend to close a girl. You keep the chase framing very light until you are too.

Otherwise, you inflate the technique too soon and it loses its power. It goes from being some fresh, exciting thing she's rarely or never experienced before to the expected, predictable experience she has every time she talks to you.

Anyway, to address your actual question: you don't need to banter back and forth; you can just use charming nonverbals. E.g.:

YOU: Hiya Sally.​

​

HER: Hey. So you weren't up too late thinking about me since last you saw me, were you?​

​

YOU: [shrug eyebrows, look to the side, tilt your head a bit, smile whimsically]​

Sort of examples:

None of these are exactly what I mean, but they're close enough, and if you use one of these it's fine.

There's a smile there, so you aren't rejecting her flirtation (don't want to punish bad behavior), but you're not accepting the frame either.

Anyway, you are going to need to move things forward with these girls soon, or else cool it on the chase frames and put these girls into a holding pattern, because if they're doing it to you and getting this reaction from you then before long they will also learn how to react to chase frames from you, and then it'll really start to get a bit repetitive and stale.

Chase

 

[Conquistador]

Can’t resist saying that he looks kinda evil due to his impressively mobile eyebrows. Maybe those internet snowflakes are right about his personal life xD

 

[Mr Mistah]

Anyway, to address your actual question: you don't need to banter back and forth; you can just use charming nonverbals. E.g.:

YOU: Hiya Sally.HER: Hey. So you weren't up too late thinking about me since last you saw me, were you?YOU: [shrug eyebrows, look to the side, tilt your head a bit, smile whimsically]

Niice.

This I can do. Low effort + playful

Thanks

 

[DarkKnight]

Because its the workplace.

Learn cold approach. Or choose only one chick from the office who is probably not even really your dream girl (you are in scarcity) instead of thousands you can pick up outside.

This is the core of your problem.

 

[Skills]

An odd thing keeps happening to me and I'm not quite sure how to address it.

While running slowburn social circle game, I usually flirt with the girls I'm after by laying on the chase frames thick with statements like;

Aww did you miss me? Look how happy you are to see me

Why are you standing so close to me? Are you trying to (implied sexual activity)?

(When she pushes for us to go get drinks) Why? Trying to get me drunk so you can take advantage of me huh?

And so on and so forth.

Basically, I say a lot of things that paint her as the sexual aggressor. I also use a lot of sexual misinterpretation.

The girls usually eat it up and our interactions start having heavy but playful sexual undertones fast.

Problem is... after a while of being exposed to me, the girls pick up on my shtick and start using my own lines on me!

They start chase framing me and while I've tried to counter their frames, I find it incredibly difficult to keep up because I am basically gaming myself!

Its like some twisted game of verbal aikido/jiujitsu where your opponents use your own force against you.

Do you guys relate to any of this and how do you defend yourself when a chick uses chase frames on you?

A statement that has been working for me now is, "Hey! You can't use my own lines on me." but I feel that after using t 3/4 times it starts to lose its power.

I need a more fullproof strategy.

Bonus Q; What is would be your go to response to the question Did you miss me? said all suggestively. They reeeeallly love dropping that one on me lmao

It is a good thing i have women and men trying to imitate me.... i remember once with my ex talking to her parents the mom said "here is skills junior talking" cause she was talking and acting like me in the subconscious.....

And yes at work men and women trying to sound like me and use my jokes on clients too (kind of annoying at times)

Is not big deal i just do fake angry: "stop taking my style get your own style" also you should have many type of weapons vs one style that you use over and over... Is like if an nfl team uses over and over same play people catch up and lose power.... but this to me is no big deal at all.... take is as an ioi...

 

[DarkKnight]

It is a good thing i have women and men trying to imitate me.... i remember once with my ex talking to her parents the mom said "here is skills junior talking" cause she was talking and acting like me in the subconscious.....

this is usually when people want to allign with you or find you to be cool otherwise

 

[Tr1cky]

Why are you trying to sleep with women at work? And if this is a job you don’t care about and can be easily replaced (restaurant for example) why do you need to slow burn it?