What we don't see, The irony of all of us

trashKENNUT

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Before you read this,

I would highly suggest you read Drexel Scott "The Sexual Market Place" and Alek Rolstad "Social Order, Sexual Restriction, and the Secret Society". They explain the stuff happening in this world.

Let's start.

As a child growing up, there's certain things your parents would not want you to know, schools would not want you to know and siblings would not want you to know. We are punish by canes or send to our rooms. Things like watching porn when you're 9, you not suppose to say vulgarities, swearing at people. This is all just part of us playing our role in the system. Then one day, you stumble upon Girlschase, you improve yourself to become great with women and suddenly society isn't so appealing. What makes it worse is that you are convince to believe that society wants to "change" you. You believe that society is ought to get you, and that "they don't really care about us", as the late Michael Jackson said so himself in his song lyrics. There's a few guys on the boards recently noted that society influence and way of life is ought to "change" them.

My Question to you guys and every human beings, "What happen to that quote People don't Change?"

You know those Facebook status, "Faith in humanity restored", People everywhere today said "People never change" and that women complain "People never change". As a child or a guy who grown up, see the world, sees all of this, He wonders what the hell is going on. I even believe you wonder now what the hell is going on. Why are you saying all this stuff like "People don't change" and "Faith in humanity restored".

Here's the all and all. "People don't change."

For all the guys who are really innocent, People don't change. For guys who know a thing or two about the world, it's a facade. It's an illusion.It's like death threats. Humanity can never see each other's personal thoughts. That's the true power of a human being. A chameleon. That ability to switch from the "good side" to the "bad side". It's like how women love "bad boys", that making her feel at the edge of her seats. She doesn't know what's next

Ask yourselves

1)If you are convince that society can change you, Why is the "system" have armies, militaries, navies, airforce to defend themselves?
2)Why are they not convince in their own abilities?
3)Actions speaks louder than words, Why your friends dating and making love when he says he is religious?

Now, The only way for Society to eliminate you is to kill you, like

Michael Jackson
Martin Luther King
Abraham Lincoln

But here's the false assumption, Society is not the enemy. Society is not black and white. They have their own interest as well. So even if you believe that "Society" can change you, you change. By outer appearance, you might be a pious Christian or Muslim. YOu might even dressed as a Priest, or an Imam. But as society ironically said to themselves, "People don't change".

Don't make society an obsession, an enemy because society doesn't exist, We all think as individuals. :) There's a saying, "Lie to everyone, but not lie to oneself".
This is our power, It's scary.

Zac
 

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Great post Zac. It is certainly important to be careful about labeling things and seeing things as black and white. As Bruce Lee once said, "Be water my friend." You are not the labels you hear from those around you but the labels you make for yourself. And everyone around you is the labels you label them to be. You see only that which you want to see, no one else can change that. Adding on to your note about being a chameleon, our greatest power is choice. Free will.
 

trashKENNUT

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TheWiseFool,

TheWiseFool said:
Great post Zac. It is certainly important to be careful about labeling things and seeing things as black and white. As Bruce Lee once said, "Be water my friend." You are not the labels you hear from those around you but the labels you make for yourself. And everyone around you is the labels you label them to be. You see only that which you want to see, no one else can change that. Adding on to your note about being a chameleon, our greatest power is choice. Free will.

Yea, exactly, Like Bruce Lee (as you noted), He said about his philosophy on Jeet Kune Do, "It's only a guide". and he said every teacher is only a point of reference.

Zac
 

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Zac-

This is an interesting post. I think the clearest level of thinking on "The System" though is the realization that there is no cohesive, complete system; it's just a group of people.

Talking about "The System" is useful for communicating certain messages, but at the core, it's just a shifting, temporary alliance of disparate individuals cooperating to outcompete other "Systems" of other individuals. There is no actual system, though, any more than me walking up to a group of your and your friends and saying, "How's your night going, guys?" communicates to you - while yes, these are your friends, and you are in an alliance with them, no single one of you is "guys", and I'm speaking to you but also past you at the same time.

Case in point: if I'm an outsider to your city, and I feel oppressed there, I probably think that the system that is your city is oppressing me, and all of its inhabitants are in cahoots - including you. But you yourself don't FEEL like you're a part of "the system." In fact, no one ever does - "the system" is a label used to other certain organizations or individuals. The people working for the NSA don't view themselves as "the system"; they see themselves as defenders of freedom. But lots of other people looking in point and say, "Hey, look at John Smith working for the NSA - he's part of the system!" But John goes home and kisses his wife and has dinner and watches the same TV shows that you do, and if an angry mob showed up at his house to lynch him for being part of "the system", he'd be scared and confused and think they just had it all wrong.

Unfortunately, because we can't possibly process the information of all the individuals we encounter being separate human beings operating similarly but differently all within different sets of constraints and off of similar but different value structures, experience sets, and aims, we need to collect other people into impressions of "systems", and then are confused when systems fail to stay true to their founding principles, or fall apart, or get replaced by competing systems. In fact, it's more that as different individuals transfer in and out of the system, they change the nature of the system, because all a human system really is is the system's past executed and expanded upon by a loose collection of present, living individuals. The most perfectly constructed human system in the world will eventually fail as the founders die and new people take it over who pull it in different directions than intended to suit their own whims. Then other people revolt and kill those people and put their own system in place, which eventually goes a different direction than those people intended as well.

You might even say that the reason there is no permanence in human systems is because they do not exist separate from individual human beings. Remove all the humans from a system, and it no longer functions. Replace all the humans from a system with a completely different set of humans, and the system functions differently in important ways, even if it has strict rules, structures, and hierarchies.

I've been listening to Will and Ariel Durant's The Lessons of History again recently, and it makes all this abundantly clear. It's at first a little depressing to realize that all systems - businesses, governments, religions - eventually become twisted and turned and die as the people who built them and made them great pass on and progressive generations of inheritors take over the system and gradually warp it in different directions - sometimes making it better, sometimes making it worse, but the overall trend is toward things eventually falling apart after enough time has passed. But then new systems are built, fresh with the youth of idealism and hope, and they get tightened up and made to run like a well-oiled machine, and do great for a while, and then fall apart as people who don't understand the aim of the original founders get into the system and change it, or people bent on using the system for their own personal gain or the gain of a subset of people managed by the system get in.

So - for purposes of making an argument, it can be useful to talk about systems as separate entities.

But for all practical purposes, systems really are nothing more than collections of people working in alliance together - but each individual person in each system is still an individual person, and no two people have exactly the same aims for the alliances they're parts of, nor the same backgrounds and experiences, nor anything else.

Next time you get mad at some stupid government bureaucracy, or some intractable customer service hotline, take a step back, figure out how to reach someone different in the organization, and you stand a good chance of finding a person in that "system" who can help you achieve what you want to achieve, because he's more on your wavelength than the original person you crossed swords with was.

Chase
 

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HAd to bump this.

Was abit piss off about some things. but nevertheless, this is a good reminder.
 

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[Added Notes]

If you listen to too much of David Icke,

Or a recent scenario on Girlschase where a long time member thinks that all high level members are against him. It's an unfortunate event that happens in social circles.

Now is it intentional or is it not?

While intentional hurt is what you feel strongly and it can be the case, this is not always true. You will receive this if you hang out around many social circles long enough, where you will occasionally end up on the further end of the broom.

Positive social circles will laugh with you.
Negative social circles will laugh at you.

Now,

This things usually happens due to circumstance that happens to have everyone on one side, rather than a purposeful one.

And when they have power over you, this is amplified. You will feel that they are tribal. Most people label this as "illuminati".

It can happen to you in social circles/forums/anywhere, where everyone might suddenly end up on one side and you, the other side, vs them.

There is a secret.

Their Achilles heel.
Their weakness.
The reason why governments find the terrorist mastermind, first.

Society is looking at you. They are looking at you.

Because most of us are not really in control of our lifes.

You can always change the frame.

Bless :)
 

trashKENNUT

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There seems to be this cynical notion that has been growing throughout the world.

And it has been accelerated by Covid.

I think it's necessary to have this post bump again, to counter balance.

Not exactly referring to Girlschase only but man....

z@c+
 

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Before you read this,

I would highly suggest you read Drexel Scott "The Sexual Market Place" and Alek Rolstad "Social Order, Sexual Restriction, and the Secret Society". They explain the stuff happening in this world.

Let's start.

As a child growing up, there's certain things your parents would not want you to know, schools would not want you to know and siblings would not want you to know. We are punish by canes or send to our rooms. Things like watching porn when you're 9, you not suppose to say vulgarities, swearing at people. This is all just part of us playing our role in the system. Then one day, you stumble upon Girlschase, you improve yourself to become great with women and suddenly society isn't so appealing. What makes it worse is that you are convince to believe that society wants to "change" you. You believe that society is ought to get you, and that "they don't really care about us", as the late Michael Jackson said so himself in his song lyrics. There's a few guys on the boards recently noted that society influence and way of life is ought to "change" them.

My Question to you guys and every human beings, "What happen to that quote People don't Change?"

You know those Facebook status, "Faith in humanity restored", People everywhere today said "People never change" and that women complain "People never change". As a child or a guy who grown up, see the world, sees all of this, He wonders what the hell is going on. I even believe you wonder now what the hell is going on. Why are you saying all this stuff like "People don't change" and "Faith in humanity restored".

Here's the all and all. "People don't change."

For all the guys who are really innocent, People don't change. For guys who know a thing or two about the world, it's a facade. It's an illusion.It's like death threats. Humanity can never see each other's personal thoughts. That's the true power of a human being. A chameleon. That ability to switch from the "good side" to the "bad side". It's like how women love "bad boys", that making her feel at the edge of her seats. She doesn't know what's next

Ask yourselves

1)If you are convince that society can change you, Why is the "system" have armies, militaries, navies, airforce to defend themselves?
2)Why are they not convince in their own abilities?
3)Actions speaks louder than words, Why your friends dating and making love when he says he is religious?

Now, The only way for Society to eliminate you is to kill you, like

Michael Jackson
Martin Luther King
Abraham Lincoln

But here's the false assumption, Society is not the enemy. Society is not black and white. They have their own interest as well. So even if you believe that "Society" can change you, you change. By outer appearance, you might be a pious Christian or Muslim. YOu might even dressed as a Priest, or an Imam. But as society ironically said to themselves, "People don't change".

Don't make society an obsession, an enemy because society doesn't exist, We all think as individuals. :) There's a saying, "Lie to everyone, but not lie to oneself".
This is our power, It's scary.

Zac
bit off topic but the Michael Jackson song is about jews, find the uncensored version i won't post it
 

MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla

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There seems to be this cynical notion that has been growing throughout the world.

And it has been accelerated by Covid.

I think it's necessary to have this post bump again, to counter balance.

Not exactly referring to Girlschase only but man....

z@c+

What? Did I miss something? I suppose you must have a reason or rhyme? What’s on the mind?
 

trashKENNUT

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What? Did I miss something? I suppose you must have a reason or rhyme? What’s on the mind?

I don't understand what you talking about, you MAMASAN.

:)

Anyway, just because you still have a job, or your life is fine, does not mean that other people lifes are.

This has made people more cynical, like tissue paper hoarding earlier this year, food hoarding. And worse, thinking that governments are ought to fuck with you, when they themselves are not sure what is going on.

I know you have money, bro!

z@c+
 

MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla

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Had to look up Mamasan,

Anyway, just because you still have a job, or your life is fine, does not mean that other people lifes are.

For the average man the quality of life has been going down for sometime, I am turning twenty six now and joined the community back when I was nineteen.Life could be shittier,

I still get sour patches however.

I feel for now everything is about to get a whole hell of a lot worst. My life has stayed relatively the same through out this entire thing.
 

trashKENNUT

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That Chase response on the pandemic put my brain in 10 places.

I hate him. :rolleyes:

z@c+
 

trashKENNUT

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Yeaa........

In case you guys read the recent post on the pandemic. Thanks Chase. This post with that recent post, put my brain in additional ten places.

-.-

z@c+
 
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