"Whatcha doing tonight?"--Ultimate Trap Text?

[ramirezs316]

So I met this model in a club, couldn't take her home but grabbed her number. She was up for having a drink, so I set up a date. The night of, she messages me half an hour before that she has to reschedule. I send her my standard flake text: "No worries. I'm sure we can find another night. " My plan was then to wait a few days to a week to reschedule. But then the worst/best possible thing happened...

The next day she texted me "Whatcha doing tonight?" It sounded like a clear invitation to get together but an incredibly vague one. Did she want to go out like we had planned? Did she want me to get her to come over? Was she just curious? I consulted my two roommates so I would lessen the chance of fucking up. Didn't want to come off too available like I was waiting for her text, but also wanted to make seeing each other an option. I sent: "Gonna hit the square with my friends. If you're free, I can meet you there and we can continue where we left off. "

She read the text (damn read receipts) and never replied back. Haven't heard from her since (two days), which obviously means my text was crap. I felt like getting her out was gonna be the biggest hurdle and I could've rescheduled like normal no problem. But she just had to text me the day after. I feel now like not answering her at all would've been better than a response.

What the hell am I supposed to answer when she texts me that the day after a cancelled date? Do I just invite her over? Is that too risky when all our texts have just been to set up dates and I don't have much idea about her personality? I can pull during a date but straight up through text I've never done. Was this just the biggest landmine ever and I stepped on it?

 

[Skid]

It's probably appropriate that you describe the initial interaction in more detail. But if she's a model and you're a beginner usually as a general rule you lose girls through lack of value rather than comfort (depends on your personality). Look at your reaction to this girl sending you a message randomly. You basically told her that you were ready to drop your "friends" even tho you'd planned the night with them for her : that speaks volumes to a girl - mostly lack of abundance. You should have just told her you had plans and rescheduled when it suited YOU later on when you originally planned too- remember you want to be getting as much investment from girls as possible give her opportunities to invest. You're the one investing more if you just always drop everything the second she says hi. It's also entirely possible this girl was a time waster , even still you want girls coming to you on your terms - it's a good habit to get into and helps screen out time wasters.

Edit:

Also , you're asking a bunch of questions and blaming the girl for texting you. I suggest a change in mindset - when a girl does something she likes you she's giving you an opportunity to get her to like you even more but you screwed up. Don't beat yourself up we've all done it multiple times and its frustrating. But don't blame the girl - it won't change how the next girl reacts. All these questions "What the hell am I supposed to answer when she texts me that the day after a cancelled date? Do I just invite her over?" , is coming from the perspective what do I have to do too get/impress the girl , instead don't worry about yourself and how to present yourself as a high value man - forget what the girl thinks of you.

Skid

 

[Smith]

Did she want to go out like we had planned? Did she want me to get her to come over? Was she just curious? I consulted my two roommates so I would lessen the chance of fucking up. Didn't want to come off too available like I was waiting for her text, but also wanted to make seeing each other an option. I sent: "Gonna hit the square with my friends. If you're free, I can meet you there and we can continue where we left off. "

you'll never know if u fuck up or not. I also hate it when girl send me texts like this...your text might sound a little too eager, because it sounds like you're willing to ditch your friend and go meet her, when she JUST flaked on u the day before. Just play it a little cool next time, and don't rush it. Maybe she did want to meet you but wasn't keen on the idea of going with your friends. You'll never know if u rush to the end with your text. And find out what she wants from you! lol just do what u would do when a bro text you...e.g. "Gonna hit the square with my friends! Wassup?"

 

[ramirezs316]

It's probably appropriate that you describe the initial interaction in more detail. But if she's a model and you're a beginner usually as a general rule you lose girls through lack of value rather than comfort (depends on your personality). Look at your reaction to this girl sending you a message randomly. You basically told her that you were ready to drop your "friends" even tho you'd planned the night with them for her : that speaks volumes to a girl - mostly lack of abundance. You should have just told her you had plans and rescheduled when it suited YOU later on when you originally planned too- remember you want to be getting as much investment from girls as possible give her opportunities to invest. You're the one investing more if you just always drop everything the second she says hi. It's also entirely possible this girl was a time waster , even still you want girls coming to you on your terms - it's a good habit to get into and helps screen out time wasters.

Edit:

Also , you're asking a bunch of questions and blaming the girl for texting you. I suggest a change in mindset - when a girl does something she likes you she's giving you an opportunity to get her to like you even more but you screwed up. Don't beat yourself up we've all done it multiple times and its frustrating. But don't blame the girl - it won't change how the next girl reacts. All these questions "What the hell am I supposed to answer when she texts me that the day after a cancelled date? Do I just invite her over?" , is coming from the perspective what do I have to do too get/impress the girl , instead don't worry about yourself and how to present yourself as a high value man - forget what the girl thinks of you.

Skid

I met her out at a club, and we started a light chat right away. It wasn't the deepest (and she admitted to me that she was pretty high before coming out lol) but I moved her, was able to touch her easily, and she agreed to grab a drink. Our texts have been just straight up setting up a date.

Actually, I didn't have anything planned when she texted me. My night was free and I was hoping that I might be able to see one of the girls I had been texting earlier in the week but it didn't pan out. So going out with my friends was kind of just a front to seem like I was doing something lol. You're right that it was still too eager and that she was thinking about me enough to initiate a text. Is there a general way to handle this when a girl texts that before you've gone out with her?

I'm thinking about calling her this week to vary it up. I just read Chase's article on phone calls mixed with texting so I'm ready to try that.

 

[ProblemSolving]

The next day she texted me "Whatcha doing tonight?" It sounded like a clear invitation to get together but an incredibly vague one.

There could be two possible reasons for her text. She's bored and horny and wants to meet you ASAP or she's worried that her flaking caused you to lose interest and she's probing to see your interest level. In order to confirm, I usually reply with:

"Not much, how bout you?"

If it doesn't sound like she's doing anything important that night, invite her out that night, that's what she's hoping you'll do. If she does sound busy, invite out again on a day of your choosing. You don't lose value by not being busy in this case. She's chasing and wants to see you, but you shot yourself in the foot by trying to play it cool.

When a girl chases, it's important to reward her, otherwise you run the risk of her autorejecting: "I practically threw myself at him and he says he's busy with friends? Fuck that guy!" Escalation window slams shut.

 

[ramirezs316]

The next day she texted me "Whatcha doing tonight?" It sounded like a clear invitation to get together but an incredibly vague one.

There could be two possible reasons for her text. She's bored and horny and wants to meet you ASAP or she's worried that her flaking caused you to lose interest and she's probing to see your interest level. In order to confirm, I usually reply with:

"Not much, how bout you?"

If it doesn't sound like she's doing anything important that night, invite her out that night, that's what she's hoping you'll do. If she does sound busy, invite out again on a day of your choosing. You don't lose value by not being busy in this case. She's chasing and wants to see you, but you shot yourself in the foot by trying to play it cool.

When a girl chases, it's important to reward her, otherwise you run the risk of her autorejecting: "I practically threw myself at him and he says he's busy with friends? Fuck that guy!" Escalation window slams shut.

I just talked to my buddy who helped me with the text. I actually misread what he told me to say when he messaged me. He actually suggested just sending "Might go to the square with my friends. You?" Then if she replies warmly, send her "I could meet you out there, blah blah."

So I messed up like a doofus lol. She's a higher value girl than I'm used to meeting in the town I live, so I subconsciously let that throw me off when if I just treated her like a regular girl I would've gotten farther. Which is how I should treat every girl. I'm thinking of giving her a call to see if rescheduling is possible. It's been 3 days. Any suggestions for that?

 

[Eternity]

Her:"Whatcha doing tonight?"
You: "Drinking at yo place, ill stop by ltr"
Go bold with these types of chicks, many, many weaker men beat around the bush and don't lead the interaction where it's supposed to end... in her bed or yours. Lead and tell her where YOU want this interaction to go.

 

[ramirezs316]

Funny thing happened. I gave her a call today just for the hell of it, and she answered. I followed some of Chase's phone etiquette (scarcity, getting her to be self conscious, ending the call early) and she still wants to go out. I'll be setting up the date in text tomorrow, and hopefully get to see her Wednesday (that's my free day this week). She acted like nothing happened and seems very receptive. You can never tell with these things. I ain't complaining.