What's one thing you do that lets you hook girls in a lot more easily?

[Chase]

I think it'd be fun to have some posts for the forum where guys pitch in with individual strategies.

One of the most consistent issues I hear from coaching clients and guys in Girls Chase article comments and here on Skilled Seducer is the "hooking girls in" problem. It goes something like this:

"I can approach girls fine, and I do fine with girls when it hooks. But a lot of the time it doesn't hook and I don't know what to do to make girls hook."

What's been your personal biggest hook point breakthrough?


BIGGEST HOOK POINT BREAKTHROUGH FOR ME (TOPIC CYCLING)

The biggest breakthrough for me in getting girls to hook better was learning to basically keep jumping between topics/material until a girl hooks.

For example, old way (what I did when new / what I see a lot of guys doing):

[APPROACH]
ME: Wow, I love that hat. You have a really artistic style, it's cool. I'm Chase.
HER: I'm Gabrielle.
ME: Gabrielle, nice to meet you. So are you out on a mission today, is that why you're dressed so nice?
HER: No, just taking a walk. [SHE DOESN'T HOOK]
ME: I see. [thinking... thinking...] So where you walking to? [same topic]
HER: Just the park. Just that way. [NOT HOOKED]
ME: That one down there? XYZ park?
HER: Yep. That's the one. [NOT HOOKED]
ME: Ah yeah, that's a nice park. A lot of green space. The mini-lake is really beautiful.
HER: It is. [NOT HOOKED]

I call this "getting hung up on topics" where you just keep talking about the same boring topic that is failing to hook her.

Unfortunately, since the topic bores her, and you keep talking about the topic that is boring to her, that makes YOU seem boring, and then you're doomed.

Learning to cycle through material changed the hook game for me though:

[APPROACH]
ME: Wow, I love that hat. You have a really artistic style, it's cool. I'm Chase.
HER: I'm Gabrielle.
ME: Gabrielle, nice to meet you. So are you out on a mission today, is that why you're dressed so nice?
HER: No, just taking a walk. [SHE DOESN'T HOOK]
ME: This city is so walkable. It's one of the reasons I moved here! You seem like you're a transplant too.
HER: I'm from ABC city. [SHE DOESN'T HOOK]
ME: I thought so. I don't know how long you've been here but you seem pretty outgoing so I bet you've got a huge friend group established.
HER: [laugh] Four years. And I'm not that outgoing. I just have a couple of friends. [SEMI-HOOKED]
ME: See, but that's pretty good. Some people by four years are still sitting at home by themselves with their cats.
HER: [laugh] I actually have a cat. [SEMI-HOOKED]
ME: Cat and friends, you sound like a juggler! Let's move over a few feet so we don't get run over.
HER: [laugh] Sure. [SEMI-HOOKED]
ME: All right, so you've got friends, just a few, you been here four years; what do you do for fun?
HER: It sounds kind of stupid but I blah blah blah [TALKING ABOUT HERSELF; FAIRLY HOOKED]

(this is similar to the "opener cycling" technique)

So what we do here:

1. She doesn't hook instantly (e.g., start pelting you with questions on the open)
2. She doesn't hook on the "what is her mission for today" topic, so you DROP IT and switch to something else
3. She doesn't hook on the "city is walkable" OR "you're a transplant" topics so you DROP THOSE and switch to something else
4. She SEMI-HOOKS on the "friend group" topic, laughing and sharing details, so you expand on that by continuing to comment on it
5. She SEMI-HOOKS on the expansion, laughing and self-deprecating about the cat, so you QUALIFY her then MOVE HER then REPEAT the stuff she just told you (reinforcing that you 'get her') then ask what she does for fun
6. Now she starts talking and is reasonably invested and hooked

We quickly drop topics and keep moving, looking for something she hooks on.

Different girls have different buttons you can push that they will engage with.

The topics themselves aren't always important; sometimes it's just about getting her talking to you long enough that she takes a shine to your attractive qualities. But in any event by keeping the conversation fresh and not getting hung up on topics she doesn't connect with, you avoid running into that awkward conversation dead zone guys slip into when they keep asking about the same uninteresting thing.

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Of course, there are other things that lead to breakthroughs: better fundamentals, bringing your look/vibe more inline with specific types of girls, etc. I talk about some of these in my article on hook points (we have others in the hook point section of the website).


WHAT'S CHANGED THE GAME THE MOST FOR YOU IN GETTING GIRLS TO HOOK MORE EASILY?

Would love to see what other strategies guys have employed.

I'll bet we can make this a very useful thread.

Chase

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

For hooks it depends on where you at but the thing is you have to make things easier.

Robots and scalpers algorithms and ai are what seems to go for being popular now adays. What they do is put a product out and get a reaction and try to use that reaction to some how create a profit.

Get a custom t shirt made that says ______ women are ugly or in any variation of that. *[For example Russian girls are ugly, Japanese girls are super boring, Flat girls are gross etc…etc…] and then go for a walk outside.

Not a guarantee to hook, but usually it’ll illicit a reaction of some sort at some point. And if you play your hand proper it’ll illicit a reaction from whatever category of women you are aiming for. This works better now adays because being controversial is in.

Bonus points is it’ll then get them on a tangent and start the set nicely because they’ll be qualifying themselves to you.

Aloha
MuStO

 

[Skills]

I personally do future projections a lot...

I seen many guys using astrology... I find it cringe but hooks

 

[Chase]

@Skills,

Interesting!

I personally do future projections a lot...

Are you using future projections early on in the conversation for this?

e.g., opener, blah blah, small talk, then: "You know later, when you are preparing a meal for us, I am going to come in and say, 'Honey, blah blah' and then you are going to" etc.?

 

[Skills]

@Skills,

Interesting!



Are you using future projections early on in the conversation for this?

e.g., opener, blah blah, small talk, then: "You know later, when you are preparing a meal for us, I am going to come in and say, 'Honey, blah blah' and then you are going to" etc.?

Wow sussie i really did your __ personality trait... I think me and you will get along great i have a good feeling about you...

With tourists is the best i wrote a gambit in the tech section of the forum... I will be your tour guide snd show you the best spots on the city, have you been to _. ? Oh my God you have to check it out... I got a warned you once you get to know me you will not want to go back to ___ fill in the blank city or country...

The guys doing astrology... They go you seem like a Pisces... The nerds most of the time guess right or a virgo... Omg you girls blah blah and sometimes sexual frames.. gen z into that crap dreamer does this a lot... I was going to kock him out of the group i couldn't take the cringe but works same with fastlife and thominho they play with it... Does work to hook.. I am just too lazy to learn all the signs stuff...

 

[topcat]

I do this weird pinging thing where i ask a question, engage for an bit, and then hang back by giving physical space, turning my body away or just offering silence and widening my window of awareness. Then she either reengages of her own volition or I ping her again with another question or cold read or statement and rinse and repeat till she hooks or it goes dead.

This coupled with Chase’s topic cycling seems to work really well.

 

[Chase]

Wow sussie i really did your __ personality trait... I think me and you will get along great i have a good feeling about you...

With tourists is the best i wrote a gambit in the tech section of the forum... I will be your tour guide snd show you the best spots on the city, have you been to _. ? Oh my God you have to check it out... I got a warned you once you get to know me you will not want to go back to ___ fill in the blank city or country...

Looks like this is it:

Transitions - The tourist leaving scenario or new to town scenario fake future projection...

First, What is a fake future projection or exaggerated future projection, here is by skills: "What you need to do is speculate/forecast/fake cold read a positive interaction (it does not matter if it will be true or not or if it happens or not), this technique is very powerful… Again, I do it...

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The guys doing astrology... They go you seem like a Pisces... The nerds most of the time guess right or a virgo... Omg you girls blah blah and sometimes sexual frames.. gen z into that crap dreamer does this a lot... I was going to kock him out of the group i couldn't take the cringe but works same with fastlife and thominho they play with it... Does work to hook.. I am just too lazy to learn all the signs stuff...

I only know some of the signs but if it comes up at some point that a girl is one of the signs I know I will do that and they always eat it up, yeah.

"OMG, you are a Capricorn, no way, get away from me. Every single time with Capricorns they think you're getting married after like the first date. I'll be thinking like maybe we should hang again sometime and you'll already be planning our honeymoon. You're laughing because you know it's true. You probably already have the honeymoon planned right now, don't you?"

Etc. etc.

Basically it functions as a fast-track to trust: she feels like you already know her, thus are more trustworthy, then if you're also teasing her with the Zodiac projection, double-whammy.

Chase

 

[Chase]

I do this weird pinging thing where i ask a question, engage for an bit, and then hang back by giving physical space, turning my body away or just offering silence and widening my window of awareness. Then she either reengages of her own volition or I ping her again with another question or cold read or statement and rinse and repeat till she hooks or it goes dead.

Yeah, I do this with low initial interest girls in stationary environments where you're near the girl but there aren't a lot of other chicks to approach (or you just REALLY want to talk to that one).

Seems to work (when it does) by basically just giving her some space to warm up into being social + warm up to your presence, then decide she wants to start engaging more if she does warm up to you.

 

[James D]

This won't be anything specific because it's almost 100% the vibe for me.

I'd describe it as "playfully curious eccentric romantic"

Think Prince Oberyn from Game of Thrones meets Jack Sparrow's finger motions.

"You're a real character" is what multiple girls have told me when I've probed them about their impressions of me on the approach.

For instance, there was this girl I had a holiday romance with couple years ago. She was not hooking on the approach.

When she gently said she's not sure if she can meet me for coffee because she'll leave the country soon (soft rejection), I said: "If we don't have that coffee, it'd be a tragedy" while placing my hands on my heart in an absurd, theatrical fashion.

That flipped her mind and she handed out her number.

(Btw, not saying this is an appropriate response to a girl declining a date. It fit the context of that particular interaction and matched my character)

Or a girl I approached on a bridge who was on a video call with her bestie and I took the phone from her and spoke and joked with the bestie.

It's all these little things, often behavioural, sometimes daring (like taking the phone) while perfectly calibrated.

If we're talking absolute early stage of interaction leading the the hook point, it's that eccentric vibe for sure.

Which traces back to my naturally eccentric personality which I've come to fully own.