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Bill Juan

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a taxi driver having a pleasant conversation with your girl is disrespect?

if she starts acting funny cuz i couldn’t be bothered to interrupt her pleasant conversation, then she better be worried about losing me lol
A taxi driver having a "pleasant" conversation and ignoring you and she goes along with it and ignores you too will lower your value in her subconscious. Women, especially the hottest ones like to play those kind of games to see how you handle yourself with other men. This is what shows her if she can be safe with you or not because she is constantly attacked .

Saying " if she does that I'm out" will have you plateau at 6s and 7s. For the hottest women, this isn't optional, it's necessary.
 

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A taxi driver having a "pleasant" conversation and ignoring you and she goes along with it and ignores you too will lower your value in her subconscious. Women, especially the hottest ones like to play those kind of games to see how you handle yourself with other men. This is what shows her if she can be safe with you or not because she is constantly attacked .

Saying " if she does that I'm out" will have you plateau at 6s and 7s. For the hottest women, this isn't optional, it's necessary.
Ridiculous
 

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A taxi driver having a "pleasant" conversation and ignoring you and she goes along with it and ignores you too will lower your value in her subconscious. Women, especially the hottest ones like to play those kind of games to see how you handle yourself with other men. This is what shows her if she can be safe with you or not because she is constantly attacked .

Saying " if she does that I'm out" will have you plateau at 6s and 7s. For the hottest women, this isn't optional, it's necessary.
lol you know this how?
 

Bill Juan

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lol you know this how?
So it's ok to have another man completely ignore you and tall to your girlfriend and she goes along with it without acknowledging you? My current relationship Is 8 years long . If I let shit like that fly she would have been gone a long time ago .

If you think this is "minor shit" you will have those girls dump you and disrespect you and you don't even know why .
 

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So it's ok to have another man completely ignore you and tall to your girlfriend and she goes along with it without acknowledging you? My current relationship Is 8 years long . If I let shit like that fly she would have been gone a long time ago .

If you think this is "minor shit" you will have those girls dump you and disrespect you and you don't even know why .
One of the most attractive qualities a dude can have is not being reactive, do you understand that? Being unreactive is passing a shit test... Do you know what a shit test is??? Your idea that your girlfriend having a convo with a taxi driver and you being there chilling... Translate into she if she is an 8 or above is disrespect, she will leave you and the rest of the ridiculous none sense blows my mind... Did you come from the red pill space?? Do you know one of the most attractive traits again, being unreactive, icey, stoic, outcome independent... Do you know most club fights i have seen are cause, because girls is shit testing dude she likes by opening body language on purpose so she can get open and flirt, so she can raise value in front of hubby or bf or date... most guys with your attitude end up failing that stupid shit test.... You know how i handle it... By being unreactive and opening other groups or women... The pond gets so excited cause he doesn't know what girl is doing and over games or over reach... Girls get turn off by neediness... Comes right back to you... I probably have fucked dozens of women same scenario... I can even pull reports... My girls are jump how hi, mostly
.. non reactive is no violating boundaries.. two totally different concepts...
 

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This whole thing is pretty difficult to get to the bottom of, because there's no way to prove whether or not one strategy actually works better than the other. They both sound good:

1. Ignore the situation - I'm above it.
2. Dominate the situation - I'm in charge of it.

I can see both working out if the guy is unreactive and handles it smoothly. I know guys who are like armwrestlers at seizing the initiative, they will skilfully jump on an opportunity and don't let go until everyone is listening to them. It's not reactiveness, it's a form of self expression, and it doesn't tire them out or make them needy whatsoever. Often other people are kind of annoyed at first, but a few minutes later they are completely comfortable being led along.

Then there are quiet guys who know how to draw attention to themselves with silence, and make other people keenly aware of them without saying a word.

And not all women respond the same way to each type of guy, some of them are drawn to a boisterous, dominant guy, others are drawn to a mysterious, enigmatic type of guy.

I will say that there are situations where silence and reservedness simply doesn't cut it, where you have to be able to put out words with immediate effect in positions where you don't have implicit authority, and you have to be absolutely sure of your ability to do so.
 

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So it's ok to have another man completely ignore you and tall to your girlfriend and she goes along with it without acknowledging you? My current relationship Is 8 years long . If I let shit like that fly she would have been gone a long time ago .

If you think this is "minor shit" you will have those girls dump you and disrespect you and you don't even know why .
In that situation, the problem ain’t the guy, it’s the girl. Why you with a chick that would feel comfortable doing that in your face? In situations like this when they arise, I’m watching the chick and letting her bury herself.

The dude isn’t in the wrong. She is.
 

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One thing not mentioned here is drama.
Some women get off stirring up shit with their main man, so they can get a reaction and release it in bed.
Some guys do that too.
I tend to avoid making those kind of women more than low-end FBs (not my cup of tea really), but there are dudes who enjoy to play this game.

In all honesty, @James D came up with the best answer:
As you can see in this thread, different folks draw lines differently based off what they consider disrespectful or not, which varies across the board.
Determine what you consider disrespectful for yourself and draw the line.
When someone tiptoes around it, you let them know (without overheating) and enforce those boundaries.
 

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I am curious if this is repeated behaviour, why not have a heart to heart with the girl when alone. See her reaction and calibrate from there, you are in relationship not in seduction phase now.

Seems a much more simple solution.

In seduction phase or phase before 3 times sex a different story but if she is attached to you she should follow you.
 

Bill Juan

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One of the most attractive qualities a dude can have is not being reactive, do you understand that? Being unreactive is passing a shit test... Do you know what a shit test is??? Your idea that your girlfriend having a convo with a taxi driver and you being there chilling... Translate into she if she is an 8 or above is disrespect, she will leave you and the rest of the ridiculous none sense blows my mind... Did you come from the red pill space?? Do you know one of the most attractive traits again, being unreactive, icey, stoic, outcome independent... Do you know most club fights i have seen are cause, because girls is shit testing dude she likes by opening body language on purpose so she can get open and flirt, so she can raise value in front of hubby or bf or date... most guys with your attitude end up failing that stupid shit test.... You know how i handle it... By being unreactive and opening other groups or women... The pond gets so excited cause he doesn't know what girl is doing and over games or over reach... Girls get turn off by neediness... Comes right back to you... I probably have fucked dozens of women same scenario... I can even pull reports... My girls are jump how hi, mostly
.. non reactive is no violating boundaries.. two totally different concepts...
Being unreactive is valid.
Being a pushover is not .
So if a guy grabs your girls ass you won't do anything because you are being "unreactive"?
If you have an argument with your girl and to piss you off she starts flirting with the taxi driver you're going to let it happen because you are being "unreactive"?
There are theories and there are real life situations. Nothing to do with the "Redpill" which I don't agree with most of anyway
Just real life experience VS internet theories .
 

Bill Juan

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I am curious if this is repeated behaviour, why not have a heart to heart with the girl when alone. See her reaction and calibrate from there, you are in relationship not in seduction phase now.

Seems a much more simple solution.

In seduction phase or phase before 3 times sex a different story but if she is attached to you she should follow you.
You get my point.
Those rules should not be dogmas. Being a man and keeping a healthy relationship, you need to have honest discussions and establish boundaries for your girl to follow.
And her sitting there and flirting with the taxi driver while ignoring me makes me look stupid, so it makes her look stupid as well.
Walking around with a truly attractive woman, especially if you don't look that special yourself, a lot of men will try to disrespect you in subtle ways, sometimes even flirt with her in your face. She has to take your side and be respectful.
 

Bill Juan

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In that situation, the problem ain’t the guy, it’s the girl. Why you with a chick that would feel comfortable doing that in your face? In situations like this when they arise, I’m watching the chick and letting her bury herself.

The dude isn’t in the wrong. She is.
Not that simple.
If we just started dating she might need to see my boundaries so she will test them. Me just being unreactive in that case is weak, but just leaving is also too much, weak in some way because it shows I don't know how to handle myself.
Real men don't escape situations they deal with it .
So the answer is asserting my boundaries firmly, and if she won't listen past a certain point, then I leave .

When she wants to come back she will have to pay the price . But I will warn her first.
 

Bill Juan

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One thing not mentioned here is drama.
Some women get off stirring up shit with their main man, so they can get a reaction and release it in bed.
Some guys do that too.
I tend to avoid making those kind of women more than low-end FBs (not my cup of tea really), but there are dudes who enjoy to play this game.

In all honesty, @James D came up with the best answer:
There are women who enjoy drama all the time, that's not what I had in mind though. If I already established some clear rules and told her the consequences if she breaks them, then I will just leave . But I believe every woman even the least dramatic wants to see your dominance and masculinity in a crisis. I won't break up with her because she tested once or twice in the beginning of our relationship.
 

Bill Juan

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One of the most attractive qualities a dude can have is not being reactive, do you understand that? Being unreactive is passing a shit test... Do you know what a shit test is??? Your idea that your girlfriend having a convo with a taxi driver and you being there chilling... Translate into she if she is an 8 or above is disrespect, she will leave you and the rest of the ridiculous none sense blows my mind... Did you come from the red pill space?? Do you know one of the most attractive traits again, being unreactive, icey, stoic, outcome independent... Do you know most club fights i have seen are cause, because girls is shit testing dude she likes by opening body language on purpose so she can get open and flirt, so she can raise value in front of hubby or bf or date... most guys with your attitude end up failing that stupid shit test.... You know how i handle it... By being unreactive and opening other groups or women... The pond gets so excited cause he doesn't know what girl is doing and over games or over reach... Girls get turn off by neediness... Comes right back to you... I probably have fucked dozens of women same scenario... I can even pull reports... My girls are jump how hi, mostly
.. non reactive is no violating boundaries.. two totally different concepts...
Also the situation you just described is not the same as a taxi driver flirting with your woman in your face. Are you going to open another set in the street??
It's about nuances and subtleties. Your whole life is not a night game among session.
Furthermore, I expect my girl to put her respect for me above those kind of silly games, so I won't partake. I would never let a girl flirt with guys in my face repeatedly.At all. She will do it once or twice ar most .I will warn her, and if she does it again, I'm out . But she needs to see me warn her first.
Now if we are talking about a girl I just fuck and hang out with and not a serious relationship, she can do whatever the fuck she wants . I'll be in my own bubble.
 

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Also the situation you just described is not the same as a taxi driver flirting with your woman in your face. Are you going to open another set in the street??
It's about nuances and subtleties. Your whole life is not a night game among session.
Furthermore, I expect my girl to put her respect for me above those kind of silly games, so I won't partake. I would never let a girl flirt with guys in my face repeatedly.At all. She will do it once or twice ar most .I will warn her, and if she does it again, I'm out . But she needs to see me warn her first.
Now if we are talking about a girl I just fuck and hang out with and not a serious relationship, she can do whatever the fuck she wants . I'll be in my own bubble.
I was giving you a sample you didn't get it... Are you latin?
 
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