When Did You Know You Were Starting to Get "Good"?

[Chase]

Here's another question to the board that we'll include your answers to in the next issue of GC Magazine.

The first one with your answers to the previous question is out in iTunes here; reviews on iTunes if you've checked the product out are much appreciated and extremely useful in helping make sure the app picks up and maintains steam.

Here's the question:

When did you KNOW you were starting to get good with girls?

What was the sign... or a specific moment or incident if you remember it?

How did you know that all right, it's happening - I'm not just deluding myself; I am actually leveling up with women and bettering my results?

Drop your answers here, and I'll get them styled up and slipped into Issue #2.

Chase

 

[Nova]

when i was 14 and i seduced that super model

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

When I could get girls I had not been able to get in the past, I knew I had made it. Growing up I was always an outcast and never a part of the "in crowd" with the popular kids in it. In college, I didn't rush a fraternity and mainly dated foreign exchange students, was never invited out to parties that had the pretty sorority girls and had a few that let me know I was not good enough for them. Then a year after college I started to date and land one night stands with the pretty girls at the bars. A few months ago I started dating a blonde bombshell that I would not have been able to get when I was younger, broke up because I just wanted to experiment some more and accumulate higher notch counts with the girls I had struggled with in the past. I knew I had evolved into another kind of guy when I could get girls I struggled with in the past: the girl next door types, the blonde bombshell all american types, and even the pretty girls you see at sport events.

Going to be real here, improving my looks helped a lot more than any seduction advice or game advice did but so did "moving fast" as you said in one of your blog posts.

 

[Richard]

I knew I was getting "Good" when I was able to help out the guys who were just starting to learn this stuff and when I was able to effectively answer most of the questions about women guys would ask me. Being able to teach people from the style I developed for myself and have them use it and see results. To me, it was like seeing the culmination of all the information I'd gotten from numerous approaches and lays.

In field however - I knew I was getting good when girls were consistently responding well to my sexual advances, compliance demands, and complimenting me. When the girls started to do my job for me I knew I was good =)

-Richard

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

when i was 14 and i seduced that super model

Boards like this are usually for the following kinds of people:

1. Guys who need help with girls
2. Guys who help those that need help with girls
3. Guys that want to share their actual experiences relating to women/seduction

I have already seen you sabotage one of my threads with your poorly done comedy and rudimentary satire, if that wasn't enough you are also rude to other members. Don't see why anyone hasn't called this shit nugget for his terrible posting history but I am going to do it now. Please stop, if you have nothing of value to add to the thread then just don't post in it. I understand your life probably sucked because kids stuffed you into lockers when you were younger, left you there for the night, and then beat you up the next day for having the same clothes but please stop your shit sir. Your posts are terrible and whatever you might have going on in your life, go seek a therapist and spare us from your poor attempt at comedy.

 

[Eternity]

When I stopped giving a shit.

 

[Nova]

when i was 14 and i seduced that super model

Boards like this are usually for the following kinds of people:

1. Guys who need help with girls
2. Guys who help those that need help with girls
3. Guys that want to share their actual experiences relating to women/seduction

I have already seen you sabotage one of my threads with your poorly done comedy and rudimentary satire, if that wasn't enough you are also rude to other members. Don't see why anyone hasn't called this shit nugget for his terrible posting history but I am going to do it now. Please stop, if you have nothing of value to add to the thread then just don't post in it. I understand your life probably sucked because kids stuffed you into lockers when you were younger, left you there for the night, and then beat you up the next day for having the same clothes but please stop your shit sir. Your posts are terrible and whatever you might have going on in your life, go seek a therapist and spare us from your poor attempt at comedy.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Boards like this are usually for the following kinds of people:
1. Guys who need help with girls
2. Guys who help those that need help with girls
3. Guys that want to share their actual experiences relating to women/seduction

I guess were going to have to add
4. Guys who seduce super models at early ages

Though I agree Nova is an asshole

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Onto the main course!

How did I know when I was starting to get GOOD with girls?

I would say I'm right at this point starting to get good.

I knew I was starting to get good when I started getting more tangible results.

Actual lays, daygame makeouts/kissing in under 15 minutes, phone numbers that don't flake (still get flakes though), rapid physical escalation, and girls investing and qualifying right after saying "hi".

I've only a meager handful of actual lays but between each lay (2-3 months) I noticed I was getting MORE of all of the other points aforementioned.

When I started getting more and more tangible results I knew if I keep at it my success would be inevitable.

I have also noticed my dominance, charisma, ability to get in state, congruence to whatever I'm feeling and my ability to project that (as opposed to trying to fake instant charisma), smoothness in physical game (effortless transition to handhold for exp.) has increased and become more solidified with my tangible results. Obviously there is a correlation between the two, though to me it's a bit of "what came first the chicken (results) or the egg (state/vibe)".

Another teacher of seduction I like made the observation that "Your best night out right now when your most dominant, charismatic, gangster whatever, will be your average night 6 months from now and become the norm" (assuming you go out regularly).

I have seen this in my own progress and I believe it's true. Sort of similar to muscle memory with sports or something.

I think no matter how much you suck if you can look back 6 months ago and say "yup my best night is now my average" then you can't be butthurt or cry. Even if your not getting laid if you can continually look back 6 months and see good progress stick with it your success will be inevitable. Persist without exception.

My 2 cents Chase.

-Rob

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

when i was 14 and i seduced that super model

Boards like this are usually for the following kinds of people:

1. Guys who need help with girls
2. Guys who help those that need help with girls
3. Guys that want to share their actual experiences relating to women/seduction

I have already seen you sabotage one of my threads with your poorly done comedy and rudimentary satire, if that wasn't enough you are also rude to other members. Don't see why anyone hasn't called this shit nugget for his terrible posting history but I am going to do it now. Please stop, if you have nothing of value to add to the thread then just don't post in it. I understand your life probably sucked because kids stuffed you into lockers when you were younger, left you there for the night, and then beat you up the next day for having the same clothes but please stop your shit sir. Your posts are terrible and whatever you might have going on in your life, go seek a therapist and spare us from your poor attempt at comedy.

and still not funny.

 

[robertnyc]

I had a "Shit this stuff really works" moment last year when I ran into a cute petite girl I used to date about 6 years ago. In the past I was a slow mover, thought most girls wanted relationships before sex and generally I did not lead women very well. So with this girl six years ago I had a bunch of make out sessions and one clumsy sex session before we parted ways. I randomly ran into her at a party last year, got her contact number again and got her on a date 2 weeks later.

So on the date we had a couple of drinks and then I brought her back to my place and we started making out on the couch. I followed Chase's advice to move fast and also the advice of another seduction blogger who had a post on rapid physical escalation which essentially said get your fingers up inside her pussy as fast as possible to turn her on - even before taking off her pants fully or trying to get her shirt or bra off. So after a minute or two of kissing while we were both fully dressed I started to rub her pussy outside her underwear for about 30 seconds (she had a dress on) and then I just started pushed her underwear a bit to the side and worked my finger up into her pussy while her underwear was still on and her pussy got very, very wet. After a couple of minutes of that I undid the top of my pants and took my cock out a bit (again leading and not waiting for her to do it or ask e to take it out). She was so turned on from me fingering her there was no LMR. She gave me a quick blowjob then I took her underwear off and we fucked in various positions on the coach while we were both half clothed.

This type of fast escalation without taking your clothes fully off is great when having sex with a new girl for the first time because you avoid many potential state breaks like taking off her shirt, trying to move her into the bedroom, etc. The advice of getting your fingers in her pussy as quickly as possible also goes against most mainstream sex advice which says women have to be warmed up a lot before you finger them or that they have to build up anticipation by having you slowly touch them and then work your way down to their pussy. This mainstream advice may be good if you are already in a relationship with the girl and you know you're having sex that night but the mainstream advice of taking it slow and building anticipation can be counter-productive for quick lays on girls you are sleeping with for the first time.

Anyway, I am still working on several aspects of my game but that experience made me see there was something to this whole seduction advice thing and that the Girls Chase philosophy of moving fast was something I wanted to try more of.

 

[fsc]

I have the LR under my old account, but here's the summary:

I began talking to a girl whose date got too drunk and left. She shot down half of my attempts at deep diving with shrugs, short responses, closed-off body language, and statements like "I don't know", "doesn't matter", "meh", and "you're boring". I countered her "you're boring" statement with "tell me something interesting about yourself". That's when her guard broke and started getting fidgety. I've had the feeling that she was horny and just wanted to have sex, but I wasn't sure because she was being so damn cold and she shot down my first pull attempt. However, her demeanor after my counter supported my assumption. So I pulled, she followed, and we had terrible sex because I was a bit intoxicated and couldn't really feel. I spent about 20 minutes face-to-face with her before the sex.

This was last November, 3 months after I discovered GC. Best website ever. Thank you

 

[Chase]

Cheers for the responses, gents.

It’s interesting to note that for some guys it’s a “reached this level” sort of realization, whereas for others it’s a kind of “had this specific moment” sort instead.

The “I reached a level” guys consist of Proactivity (realized he could get girls who weren’t accessible to him in the past), Richard (realized he was able to train guys to get results with his own personal style), Eternity (stopped caring and just did what he needed to do), and Rob (a number of different indicators across the board), all of whom it was mostly about reaching a point where things changed.

And Robert and FSC have similar “specific moment” stories in that they each forged on ahead with escalating and moving fast, only for it to work out (guessing probably better than either of you expected it to at the time, yeah?) and for them to walk away going, “Wow… that worked!”

I might actually classify these two different events as somewhat different things – the first one is more of a “I know I’m good and can post consistent results” realization, while the second is more of a “Wow, I’ve found something that works and I can do it” realization. Both are quite good and quite important.

@ Nova-

I'll PM you. But not helpful or appropriate.

Chase

 

[PrettyDecent]

For me, I'd had a voice in the back of my head questioning the validity of PU for a while, more when I was going through my first "grinding" stage.

Probably started thinking I was "good" when getting phone numbers and dates became easy and simple.

 

[johnydones]

Its almost a year since i started reading GC and even though i still do not consider myself as "good" as i can be i realized the fact that i am getting better and that it works after about 4-5 months.

Before i started reading the blog i was complete beginner with no skill nor natural game. I knew i was starting to get "good" when i slept with some girl i picked up on our second date, before that it took me like a month of dating.

As far as fundamentals are concerned , i knew that i had most of it under my belt when several girls approached me.

What's more amazing to me is that most of my friends that i considered "natural" are asking for advise , which made me wonder , am i better then them now ? my goal was to be at least half as good as them at some point.

I had many other "omg it works" moments , its hard to remember all of them now. And it's not just girls, i think i have became a better man overall , i have great many friends now and people are generally nicer to me.

Sorry if this was a bit long read

-JD

 

[fpt2k14]

I knew I was getting good when I started come out of my shell. I was talking to girls and I'd feel the attraction. I'm a very intuitive person and I just FELT I was getting good. My phone flooded with numbers and I was constantly making choices with what girls I'd spend time with. I was starting to get picky as to who I'd spend my time with..as if my time was valuable. I spend a good 5 hours a day doing nothing at all. LITERALLY. I took a step back and realized I was spending time with the "alpha females" of different sororities in my school and I just saw them as my friends and guys would be like "DUDE THEY'RE SO HOT ZOMFG" and I was like.."Oh that..? That's just [girl's name]. That's my way of explaining it, idk.