When girl chooses not to sit next to you during date

[killerman]

Ok I've run into a few problems during some of my dates, and one of them is when a woman chooses to sit opposite you rather than sit next to you. When that happens what do you do? Once I went and sat right next to her and the other I asked her to come sit next to me (which she refused). So I'd like to know what is the most efficient tactic to follow when coming up with this kind of situation?

 

[Man-O]

First off, you don't have to sit beside each other on a date. You can make strong eye contact and flirt with her without doing kino.

It's sort of custom to sit across each other on dates.
What I do to get close. I start building compliance or simply make strong eye contact and when I "feel" she's accustomed or into me I move over beside her.
With compliance you may start off asking for her hand to caress/hold it with an excuse you bring up or simply take her hand mid-conversation. Then you touch more to see how accustomed she is and then you ask her to move over to you.

This one ended as FB

23rd Feb. date
The girl I last dated at the bar (the first) it went bad due to the place we sat, which was near entrance so made sure we were whole the way behind where people couldn't see us, making kino easier while sitting in a corner with each other.
At some point in our talk I was beginning to think about what to relate and talk with her about and we were already vibing pretty good together so I told myself to move right over next to her (from second date same week I didn't make a move), which I did with "you have a really nice smile" and then just do the -stare and kiss-. Ended up making out for 30 mins and giving her dirty talk ("it's not fair you're making me this horny" "l'd so much go down on you" "that smile of yours is really turning me on" etc.) while my left hand slowly conquered her crotch and she began to moan subtly while the other took her hand and put it on D and she moved her hand slowly away. Put it there again a min later, and so back and forth.
Me: *whispering* We really ought do this somewhere else. How about your place? *got no response the first 2 times, third time however.*
Her: Noo~ I got principles. I don't do it on the first date *moans* I've only been together with my x-bfs.
Me: But you want it... *A min later* principles are made to be broken... (through our talk I knew she was living close by) *A min later again* What you say we make dinner together by your place? (Had been doing rapport so I could build it up later with us cooking together).
Her: Mmmmh, we could..

As from your last topic you can see other ppl prefer not to touch much before cave but instead just being very seductive without touch. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te4G4EGjidM and then you don't need to sit close. BUT I'd recommend touching just to make you yourself accustomed to it. Unless it's a breeze for you to escalate when first in your cave (for me it isn't).

 

[Ross]

Once I went and sat right next to her and the other I asked her to come sit next to me (which she refused). So I'd like to know what is the most efficient tactic to follow when coming up with this kind of situation?

Asking a girl to move is generally an early compliance generator. What's going to work best here is persistence in the instance of her refusal. Convince her to sit next to you through multiple attempts. Here's how this may play out,

You: Come sit next to me.
Her: No thanks, I'm fine over here.
You: Sitting next to each other feels naturally better *gesture towards spot you want her to sit*

You can generally carry on with things of this nature after her disapproval 2-3 more times before letting it go and allowing her to sit there. I've found that the best course of action is to only ever tell her to do it one time, and then progress into convincing/leading.

Telling her to do it multiple times announces that you're trying to get her to submit, which by nature shows extra effort towards making her submit, which in itself shows a loss of power and frame on your side, making her less likely to submit. Very circular logic, but it pans out in reality.