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Jason

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Good afternoon brothers,

I recently(yesterday) had another situation where I was at my job and I opened an attractive girl. She was about 5'10, blonde hair and a European accent(Czech Republic). I opened her by asking if I could help her to find something. She smiled and said that she was fine. I then playfully said, "you're tall, do you play basketball?". She shook her head smiling at me and said no. I playfully asked her, "you don't play sports at all? Youre not athletic?". She again smiled and shook her head and warmly said no and then said she was a lifeguard. Then I playfully said, " so you swim huh? Where's your whistle at?". She laughed and said that she works at one of the local pools. I told her that I liked her accent, asked her her name and asked where she was from and if she lived in the area. She told me her name and that she was from the Czech Republic and that she lives in the area. (We shook hands during that introduction)

I asked her how long she'd been living here for. She told me 2 months and that she was here temporarily on a student visa. Since I was still working(and other customers were around) I told her that I would like to see her again and that we should get together for a bite to talk more at the grill pub up the street from my job sometime. She told me that she's doesn't know because she is always busy and works until 9 most nights. I told her that's ok because I work utill 10 most nights. I then asked her if she knows where the grill pub was which was down the street. She said that she didn't know the area that well. I mentioned a landmark next to it, then she understood what location I was talking about.

I then asked for her phone number. She said ok. I then told her to come with me next to the department work counter(which was 3 feet from where we were standing ) so that I could write down her phone number. She followed me to the counter and then told me to give her my number because she couldn't remember her number that well. Customers were still around and some were watching us(a man and a woman who were not together). I said cool. I wrote my number down and gave it to her. She asked me if she was reading the numbers right to confirm it. She then smiled, folded it up, I shook her hand again and let my hand slide off of hers with my thumb touching the inside middle of her palm and said bye to each other. Then she left.


Now, I think I can understand some errors in which I made:

1) I didn't gently hold her hand during our first hand shake during introduction, but only after the whole interaction.
2) I didn't ask her to put my number in her phone and dial it so that I could see if she was serious about wanting to communicate after she left.


Anything to add that I could improve on fellas? Constructive criticism is always welcomed. I just want to be better and be one the best that I can be. Thanks
 
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Sounds like she was being very polite.

Try to avoid asking so many questions upfront. It's putting a lot of pressure on her, and if you keep getting "No" type responses from her, it'll reinforce her to say no to you. Plus, if you're going to ask questions to generate light convo, better to ask open ended ones, even if they're simple. Because if you're going to be wrong, might as well make it fun, (playful assumptions, positive assumptions)


Me: "I bet you have a wicked jumpshot and post moves."

Her: "...Sorry?"

Me: "I'm a basketball aficionado myself."

Her: (laughs) "Oh, I don't play basketball."

Me: "Coulda fooled me. You seem like the athletic type."

And so on. Making statements that lead the conversation and baiting help alot. It's not optimal to throw question after question at a person, let alone someone you just met. It puts pressure on her when she hasn't invested in you very much.

Based on her reaction to your asking for the contact info, she doesn't seem very interested. Getting the number is usually a byproduct of her wanting to hang out. You have to get her to want to hang out in the first place. She either wasn't interested from the jump, which in that case, you can't do anything except move on, and keep working at your fundamentals. Or she might have had a slight interest at first, but you failed to ramp it up.

She needs to be excited about meeting up. It's hard to build comfort and connection within a span of a few minutes of meeting her. You get her to hang out with you by intriguing her with your overall image and presence, and your conversation. Work on that, and you'll see improvements. If she wants to hang out with you, getting the number becomes an afterthought. Her hesitancy and excuses were her polite way of trying to ease out of the interaction without flat out rejecting you.
 

Jason

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J.J. said:
Sounds like she was being very polite.

Try to avoid asking so many questions upfront. It's putting a lot of pressure on her, and if you keep getting "No" type responses from her, it'll reinforce her to say no to you. Plus, if you're going to ask questions to generate light convo, better to ask open ended ones, even if they're simple. Because if you're going to be wrong, might as well make it fun, (playful assumptions, positive assumptions)


Me: "I bet you have a wicked jumpshot and post moves."

Her: "...Sorry?"

Me: "I'm a basketball aficionado myself."

Her: (laughs) "Oh, I don't play basketball."

Me: "Coulda fooled me. You seem like the athletic type."

And so on. Making statements that lead the conversation and baiting help alot. It's not optimal to throw question after question at a person, let alone someone you just met. It puts pressure on her when she hasn't invested in you very much.

Based on her reaction to your asking for the contact info, she doesn't seem very interested. Getting the number is usually a byproduct of her wanting to hang out. You have to get her to want to hang out in the first place. She either wasn't interested from the jump, which in that case, you can't do anything except move on, and keep working at your fundamentals. Or she might have had a slight interest at first, but you failed to ramp it up.

She needs to be excited about meeting up. It's hard to build comfort and connection within a span of a few minutes of meeting her. You get her to hang out with you by intriguing her with your overall image and presence, and your conversation. Work on that, and you'll see improvements. If she wants to hang out with you, getting the number becomes an afterthought. Her hesitancy and excuses were her polite way of trying to ease out of the interaction without flat out rejecting you.


Thanks for the feedback. Your response makes a lot of sense. I'll use that to improve.
 

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Hey Jason, GOOD START! :)

Where do you work? Depending on where you may not want to approach girls, especially if a lot come in, there's bound to be some attracted to you naturally, which will make it easier for you to "thin out the crowd" so to speak. I agree with J.J. here, it's not good when she's not returning the favor and asking you questions in return.

When you asked about the grill pub You should say something like, "Hey listen...We should really grab something to eat sometime," and guage her reaction there. Leave a little mystery as to where you're going until you're actually on the date. But I'm leaning on the end that she wasn't really attracted in the first place.

She was definitely being polite and avoiding giving you her number. Once again, I'm no expert in work game, but I really don't think you should approach girls without an invitation, even if it is indirect. I feel like if you're working in a place where there's a steady stream of new girls, you should work on your fundamentals and let them come to you. It reinforces the chasing frame here.

Good job on trying to lead her to the costumer counter though, good lead and test for compliance.

Now, I think I can understand some errors in which I made:

1) I didn't gently hold her hand during our first hand shake during introduction, but only after the whole interaction.
2) I didn't ask her to put my number in her phone and dial it so that I could see if she was serious about wanting to communicate after she left.

The first one isn't necessarily an error on your part. It's a good physical touch, but not really vital. I think when you're teasing her, I'd playfully push her away or something like that. But then again, you were in a closed area, so I'm not too sure...

The second, I let them put it into my phone, either by taking it out and commanding them to or just taking it out in the middle of conversation, with the keypad open, and silently handing it to them.

All in all it's a good start, Jason. I'd love to get more details on where you work/what the dynamic is like there though so I can help you out more.

Jake.
 

Jason

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Thanks for the feedback Jake. I'll definitely use your advice also. I work at a large retailer one stop shop. I don't really want to give the name right now though. All kinds of people of all different classes, ages and ethnic backgrounds shop there though.
 
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Take everything you hear with a grain of salt until you've tried it for yourself. Test any and everything you hear. These are just suggestions. Tips. The best way to learn, is to fail early and often. It's like training for any sport or skill. It's a test of endurance and persistence. If you want to make gains and advances, you have to push through the pain and discomfort.

Your best bet is gaining as many experiences and exposure to different types of women and being comfortable talking to them and developing your social skills and fundamentals. Even if you never reach a high level of "game", if you get your fundamentals handled and put together your lifestyle, you'll have no trouble meeting high caliber women, even through social circle.
 

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Right, my advice would be to let the girls come to you if you're in a place that gets high turnover. I think it'd be better to let them be attracted rather than go direct and risk getting a bad rep at work. Unless of course you don't care like J.J. said and would rather approach as many as you want, your choice really.

Jake.
 
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Yeah, I keep forgetting. Like Jake said... use discretion in the work place. You wouldn't want to develop a reputation for scaring customers away or being in any way a detriment to the business and operation of the establishment.

Personally, I wouldn't approach in the workplace at all. Getting fired because you hit on a woman at work sucks. I've seen coworkers get canned because they lacked professionalism. Even if you keep it low key, you may just win the lottery and end up provoking a very unhappy/sensitive woman who isn't afraid to speak to management and such... So... it's really up to you.

But if you live in a relatively lively city or town with good social hubs and nightlife, you should go find a place where you can meet the type of women you're attracted to.

However, I would still use the opportunity to interact with people, not just women, to work on fundamentals. Warm and engaging eye contact. Body language. Vocal tonality. There are just some of the things that you can work on that are naturally part of your job and will enhance your overall social skills and interpersonal communication.
 
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Jason

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Thanks, Jake and J.J. That was real helpful advice.
 
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