Who Here Is In The Friendzone Right Now?

[Mr.Rob]

Hey Drexel I decided recently that pickup is just for manipulative douche bags and decided to move slow/respectful and court women as they should be.

Well I've been courting a most wonderful girl now for the past 7 and a half months. I think she is perfect and like a fine shining diamond I cannot find a single flaw with her.

I write her a poem and drop off a bouquet of flowers every day to express my love to her.

We hang out all the time and I listen to her every problem.

One thing she complains about a lot is guys that are aggressive sexually with her. She says they do such things such as talk explicitly about sex. She says it is very disrespectful and that she's glad I'm not like the rest of these guys.

However I always see her with the guy that asks if her pussy is shaved that she says is an asshole even though I see them together all the time.

Come to think of it I think his name is... Drexel?

Damn my life!!!

 

[Flames]

I don't think I've actually ever been in a friend zone TBH.

I was trying to recall an instance where I've been really good friends with a girl and I haven't at least kissed them and/or had some sort of sexual relations.

I'm not really sure there's a real friendzone.

 

[D_Smooth1900]

We hang out all the time and I listen to her every problem.

One thing she complains about a lot is guys that are aggressive sexually with her. She says they do such things such as talk explicitly about sex. She says it is very disrespectful and that she's glad I'm not like the rest of these guys.

However I always see her with the guy that asks if her pussy is shaved that she says is an asshole even though I see them together all the time.

Come to think of it I think his name is... Drexel?

Damn my life!!!

this had me dying.

Unfortunately, Drexel I doubt you'll get many responses. From what I see from guys on the boards is a lot of friend zone denial. the guys on here that are friend zoned usually don't stay long and they have seemed to follow a pretty similar pattern.

They create an account, leave a long ass post about the girl who has friend zoned them and they ask, how can I get her? Which is already the wrong question.

Then every knowledgable person on the boards says "your friend zoned as fuck buddy, time to move on."

Then they say, " no but she told me she might like me but she was just really hurt by her last boyfriend and we have a deep connection and I care about her more than I care about my testicals, I'd do anything for her"

Then we get into a really long explanation about why they are and how it's shitty and what is possible.

Then they never post again. Until maybe like a month later asking a new question about the same girl.

My point is, is that these guys, the guys who are really friend zoned for real, just have no clue they are even friend zoned.

Radeng

I agree with Radeng, no one wants to hear that the girl they've been trying so hard to get has friend-zoned them, and that there is nothing they can do about it. Honestly, that same situation is what brought me to discover this website. The fact that I wanted that one girl back. In the end, I didn't end up getting her back, Instead what I got was fake smiles and promises from the girl I desperately wanted. On that note, I also discovered seduction, and since then it hasn't failed me, from my experience Ive crossed paths with some really great woman, and that's all thanks to the techniques I've learned on here. I may still be friend zoned, but at the end of the day I'm still getting laid, and I owe that one to you guys.

-Smooth

 

[Richard]

Hey Drexel I decided recently that pickup is just for manipulative douche bags and decided to move slow/respectful and court women as they should be.

Well I've been courting a most wonderful girl now for the past 7 and a half months. I think she is perfect and like a fine shining diamond I cannot find a single flaw with her.

I write her a poem and drop off a bouquet of flowers every day to express my love to her.

We hang out all the time and I listen to her every problem.

One thing she complains about a lot is guys that are aggressive sexually with her. She says they do such things such as talk explicitly about sex. She says it is very disrespectful and that she's glad I'm not like the rest of these guys.

However I always see her with the guy that asks if her !@#$%^&* is shaved that she says is an asshole even though I see them together all the time.

Come to think of it I think his name is... Drexel?

Damn my life!!!

So, I read this and it immediately paralleled with Eminem's song Stan.

"Come to think about it, his name was.... it was you.... damn!"

 

[mb1]

Drexel,

I'll give you some experiences from my past.

1. I once had an attractive female friend from social circle (university residence) who was more of a drinking buddy with the guys. I moved into a house in second year (which scattered the circle and its eyes), and signed up for Facebook that year. This girl was very active on social media (more so for photography and procrastination than selfie validation), so we chatted and I invited her over to study, since I really liked her and did the nice guy invitation. She came over to my room and was bored with studying right away, laid herself over the bed, upside down in front of me showing her cleavage. I finished my reading, smoked some pot with her (she coughed though it was water filtered), so I got a big feeling of failure and took her outside for a walk. A few years later she wore a Halloween costume with 50 shades of grey paint sample swatches taped to her tight black outfit.

2. I was making out with a girl on my bed. I grazed her pussy with my hand. She grazed my crotch with hers. I sent her home saying I had stronger feelings for a different girl, when really I believed that sexual activity was counterproductive to reaching enlightenment.

3. I was visiting my home city and had been using Facebook chat while drinking whiskey one night, talking to a girl I've now penetrated but don't count as laid yet. When we met up, she was just out of a relationship, bought me a few drinks at a bar, drove to a parking lot where she jumped on top of me in the passenger's seat and dry humped away. She got really worked up and I just treated it like an asthma attack so she drove me home. A couple days later she picked me up for "coffee", drove me to her house and made it at her kitchen table, went to her bedroom with her shirt completely undone showing her bra. We sat and talked about literature, then she drove me home completely confused.

4. I was living in bachelor apartment and was approached via social circle. She came over to smoke pot on the bed, where I gave her some great conversation. I didn't understand what she wanted with me when she was in love with her boyfriend who had just moved away. I messaged her the night before I moved away saying that I wanted to take her to bed.

Insert GirlsChase here

The next time I found myself on a bed with a woman, I had just made her cum on the couch.

Edit: I was once making out with another girl on a bed, tied her hands together, then kept making out with her. I didn't even see her awesome tits.

 

[mb1]

Yes, Roman Catholic with weekly mass. I got into smoking kief 4 times a day mostly alone at 17 years old (started pot at 14) while taking accutane (very dangerous mix and warned against specifically in literature as with potential to trigger schizophrenia) and was convinced the physical brain feelings were kundalini energy (from a system of Hindu yoga). After a lot of unfortunate reading into spirituality online, I eradicated the idea of heaven from my head (fortunate). However, with the focus mis-attributed from nervous system fuckup to spiritual, I was convinced the "energy" would be misdirected through sexual activity, and also that I was perhaps past the stage of sexual activity as a human in the levels of reincarnation.

I would get really horny at night in bed and fantasize about the cougar bar I'd heard about, because these women seemed like they'd be the most open minded sexually. I wanted someone who would be completely nonjudgmental, and I found it eventually by straight up asking a woman to let me fuck her on POF a couple years ago. She agreed to meet, knowing she was my second ever at the age of 23 (I blamed back acne). Turns out she had a foursome experience plus watches porn, and I definitely made her cum a few times a night (crazy convulsions) and she totally changed towards me and started cooking a lot. She was 48 so I think the age difference was extremely taboo and hot for her (it also slightly freaked her out sometimes) since she'd pick me up in a dark parking lot and I am willing to give back massages.

You can read how my trajectory took off in the lay report and a follow up post here viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10789

and the SMS slave in the middle viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10299

P.S. I edited the other post with another brief one.

 

[mb1]

P.P.S. The cougar was super fit

 

[HellAtlantic]

I don't have any issues with confidence in talking to girls. Fortunately I'm pretty good looking and have an way above average body (but not elite male model type). I posted a thread called "coworker game + missed escalation windows". My issue is, and I'm not sure if your morals will prevent you from providing and opinion, is that I'm also married. Im 37, married for 12 yrs but realize I'm not gonna look good forever and by the time I really really wanna bang someone else I'll look like someone's dad. I can pass for early 30s and have been told by one girl I approached I looked late 20s and had to show her my license to prove it.

Anyhow my coworker and I have expressed that we each find the other attractive. I don't know how she feels about my whole being married thing so I missed a lot of escalation windows but by and large I think her attraction is still there for me and I'm still attracted to her. We're gonna hang out this Thursday - we hang together a couple times a month cuz we're actual friends as well - and I'm pretty sure I'll try to escalate this time. Still not sure how she feels about it, I heard through the grapevine she'd bang under the right conditions. I'll regret it if I never try though. How would you play this particular set of cards?

I feel I've been friendzoned, have done some beta things but again we're friends so a lot of it is cause I like her as a friend. I'm always mindful to pull way back when I do something nice for her, like today - I gave her a copy of a movie she wanted to see but the only words I said to her all day was "adios" as I left work. I think I do a good job of ignoring her when I feel I've been too nice to her and am ways mindful not to have orbiter tendencies and am sexual to her when we text so she knows where I stand with regards to banging (I wanna stand right in between her legs as I pump that pussy). Just not sure if my no action has put me in the friend zone. There's always light sexual tension when we hang. I need to grab these nuts and just do something. It's unlikely it'll end up bad. But I don't wanna just kiss her, I wanna play my cards right so we bang.

 

[mb1]

Got kids? Why not just divorce? Sounds to me like you really would like to increase your skill level with women and replace her. Why not spare her a lot of pain and go live the life you want? No judgment cause I don't know your life, but I hope to never get the paper lol it would be better to just fall apart if it feels right. Or maybe she's awesome, you're just a normal guy, and we should get Charlie Sheen to brainstorm up in here about having harems.

 

[HellAtlantic]

Well I don't want to derail the discussion about being friendzoned. But yes, 2 kids. Happily married but I realize no one stays young and beautiful forever and we all have a window where we're viewed as sexual viable candidates before we start being viewed as old ppl. You reach a point where the first thing someone thinks about when they see you is "that's someone's dad/that's an old guy" instead of "that's a guy who I wish would approach me". I'm still in the second category but again, that won't last forever.

Humans aren't meant to be married. We're nomads and hunters.

So I've been friendzoned (I think) because my marital status makes me unsure how this chick feels about it. I guess I could ask but to be honest I try not to bring up my being married, even tho she's very aware of it, only because I feel it's easier for her to suspend disbelief and live in the moment if I don't bring it to the forefront.