Why do girls reject guys INSTANTLY ?

[One_of_kind_200]

I literally get rejected instantly like within 2 mins of talking. I'm tall, dark, and handsome. and I practice what Chase says yet get no results at all. I talked to several girls today one who was reading a book, two girls together at a lounge, and others. All what I got is " I have a financie." " I have a bf." " I am married." This is even BEFORE i asked out. All the crap dating coaches and pick-up artists say about creating attraction before comfort is bullshit. There is no time to create anything if she rejects you within 2 mins. Unbelievable how girls have become so closed minded like this. Thats why I have started to believe in arranged marriage.

Here's an example of what happened tonight.

1- I was walking down the street and saw a couple of women shopping at the door. One of them had a red flower and asked if it was for me and she said its for her since no man would give her one. So I said give it to me and give it back to you so this counts. She laughed and called me adorable several times then when I asked where they were going and if I could go out with them. They said no.

2- I approached a couple of girls at a bar with a direct opener. Asked me about my name and I said I'm prince charming flesh and blood. We joked around about her speaking little arabic and guessing where I am from since I wasnt giving her any information. She said her husband is from Egypt. I know from my experience so far, that its a big lie. So I persisted a little and asked her to ditch her gf and come with me. Her gf stepped in and said she wouldnt. I said I am talking to her, not to you. She said beat off and I said fuck off then and left.

Chase:
When it comes to women, you've GOT to know you're probably the BEST thing that's ever happened to them if you want the most outstanding frame control you can get with them.

Me
I always say I’m a prince charming and there are a lot of Cinderella out there who will snatch me before someone else- so act fast.

Not working.



3- Rachel at the bookstore
Direct opener. She looked nervous. I asked her about her book. She talked about it for a bit. I asked about her friends. She said they’re else where. I said “ you don’t need any friends now. You’ve got me.” She laughs and said she has a bf. I said its ok I wanna be your friend. I’m the best friend ever. She gave me her number but didn’t answer on the second day.

4- Russian girl at the library:
She sits there. I walked up to her with direct opener. I asked if she was Russian, she said yes. I said “ you see how smart I am.” She said something something and then I just closed the deal and asked for number but she said no firmly.

5- Fashion girl
I went up to her at the make-up section. I asked her if these products would look good in me. She laughed and said totally. Exchange names and shook hands “ I’m faisal and the best guy in town. “I asked about her day she’s great. She asked me about mine. I said its only going great now. We laughed and talked a little about her job and how she switched major or career. I asked about how she feels about it. She talked a little with laughter. I told her she looks like a nerd, not as fashion girl. More like a programmer. She said is that what I do ? I said yes LOL. I said I don’t usually like smart women but am giving her an exception. She asked me why? I said I am imitated by intelligent women. She laughed and its good that I am honest. I asked her to join me to launch she said she cant coz her bf is there. I said its fine. I’ll talk to him too. Let’s go. She said no no its just two adults talking here nothing else. I persisted a little then left without her.




Im willing to give you $50 if you show me, in person, how pick up a girl in day and night game. I live in LA.

 

[DonAngelo]

Mmmm, IN VENUES before jumping on a girl you have to FIRST make eye contact you cannot jump on her right out of the blue (not if you are beggining with the game nor with direct openers since it feels awkard), let her check you out if you are an attractive man you get tones of looks, the first one that starts staring behind you when there is nothing there you know she is checking you out. When you make eye contact you need to be suave and move close (what i call having any excuse to move close or if she is alone go straight to her walking charming and sexy) then you talk to her.

Remember your fundamentals play a big role in preselection, not just in venues but everywhere else:

It doesn´t matters if you are tall and handsome if you don't dress fashionable with tighter clothes. Do you workout? girls love big men with muscles (they instanly know if they'd have sex with you), smelling good is a must, your shoes need to be clean (yes they notice believe me), smile man smile always, practice your smile at the mirror to make sure you are not looking like forcing it or don't look awkard.

Let us know how it go, cheers.

 

[Grand Pooba]

I literally get rejected instantly like within 2 mins of talking. I'm tall, dark, and handsome. and I practice what Chase says yet get no results at all.

Your fundamentals and vibe are incongruent or lacking. Fix this.

 

[One_of_kind_200]

Attraction isn't built. She either is attracted to you or she's not. If she's attracted it doesn't mean she'll sleep with you. Gotta game her right

1.Ditch the bragging
2.Make the conversation about her -https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHyPteSQtfcNHtgeT4YKgT1_U1Nqw
3.Be more sexual -https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ghBMAY&usg=AFQjCNE-nzwlizj4NSsh16SkO4xoRg0DXQ
4.Stop giving girls ultimatums!

Main thing? Keep approaching.

Slay

ok, how do you make the conversation about her if she rejects you within minutes or the situation isnt there such as in a mall or bar ?

 

[One_of_kind_200]

I literally get rejected instantly like within 2 mins of talking. I'm tall, dark, and handsome. and I practice what Chase says yet get no results at all.

Your fundamentals and vibe are in congruent or lacking. Fix this.

Please help me how. I'm not sure what vibe is and what kind I am giving.

 

[One_of_kind_200]

Mmmm, IN VENUES before jumping on a girl you have to FIRST make eye contact you cannot jump on her right out of the blue (not if you are beggining with the game nor with direct openers since it feels awkard), let her check you out if you are an attractive man you get tones of looks, the first one that starts staring behind you when there is nothing there you know she is checking you out. When you make eye contact you need to be suave and move close (what i call having any excuse to move close or if she is alone go straight to her walking charming and sexy) then you talk to her.

Remember your fundamentals play a big role in preselection, not just in venues but everywhere else:

It doesn´t matters if you are tall and handsome if you don't dress fashionable with tighter clothes. Do you workout? girls love big men with muscles (they instantly know if they'd have sex with you), smelling good is a must, your shoes need to be clean (yes they notice believe me), smile man smile always, practice your smile at the mirror to make sure you are not looking like forcing it or don't look awkard.

Let us know how it go, cheers.

I'm okay as far as looks and dress. So I dont think I have a problem there for the most unless I go to a dive cheap bar, I wear whatever but still look good.

Now the second thing, make eye contact then approach ? This is very good in theory, but in practice, no one is looking anyone. She's either reading, drinking her coffee, on her computer, chatting with her friends, or people. I dont understand how to make eye contact this way.

 

[One_of_kind_200]

Attraction isn't built. She either is attracted to you or she's not. If she's attracted it doesn't mean she'll sleep with you. Gotta game her right

1.Ditch the bragging
2.Make the conversation about her -https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNHyPteSQtfcNHtgeT4YKgT1_U1Nqw
3.Be more sexual -https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ghBMAY&usg=AFQjCNE-nzwlizj4NSsh16SkO4xoRg0DXQ
4.Stop giving girls ultimatums!

Main thing? Keep approaching.

Slay

U tell me to ditch bragging...... look at what chase says

And pride – extreme self-assurance – is the most attractive expression of all in men."

 

[Smurf]

I went through the same thing the first big chunk of approaches I did. A big part of it is mentality and your vibe, unfortunately. I say unfortunately because the less you've approached, the harder it is to pin this down.

Firstly, unless you like getting tossed around in a blender constantly, throw some indirect approaches in there. Direct for me at first was a death sentence because my vibe was so bad.

You're not gonna be able to figure out what it is you're doing wrong until you slow your approaches wayyy down and look at it from a different perspective. Always work backwards in problems with seduction. Girl won't give you her number? What did your opener look like? Girl acts nervous? How was your eye contact and approach? You can always backtrack and start to see a pattern in what you're doing wrong.

If you do see she's nervous, use verbal and nonverbal comfort. Take a step back, smile warmly, say, "I promise I'm not a thief I left my ski mask at home", do anything to make her feel safe that this guy is approaching her. You are a stranger, at first

Watch the angle you're approaching from. I would always make the mistake of coming from behind with my approaches. You know that scene in the movie where the villain/guy/girl just kind of appears behind someone and scares them? As a beginner, you want to avoid that as much as possible. The only place that works sometimes is social circle.

Just a few things to point out.

Jake.

 

[Grand Pooba]

I literally get rejected instantly like within 2 mins of talking. I'm tall, dark, and handsome. and I practice what Chase says yet get no results at all.

Your fundamentals and vibe are in congruent or lacking. Fix this.

Please help me how. I'm not sure what vibe is and what kind I am giving.

I don't know what you look like, nor have I seen you, but will try based on what you describe.

Everyone goes thru this phase early on, by the way, so don't feel bad about it. Also, I'm going to be brutally honest, which usually hurts at first because your ego takes a hit, but brutal honestly is what will ultimately cause real improvement.

Overall, you are uncalibrated in your approaches, don't understand social cues, are lame, and are needy. Also, you're trying to go for the kill before they even know you exist - you have to bond with women. All these cause the women you approach or their friends to throw up there defenses very quickly, or exit politely.

So I said give it to me and give it back to you so this counts. She laughed and called me adorable several times then when I asked where they were going and if I could go out with them. They said no.

Uncalibrated, needy. You invited yourself too fast, you need to bond with the girl so that she invites YOU or gives you signals that she's inviting you. You went for the kill way too fast.

She said her husband is from Egypt. I know from my experience so far, that its a big lie. So I persisted a little and asked her to ditch her gf and come with me. Her gf stepped in and said she wouldnt. I said I am talking to her, not to you. She said beat off and I said fuck off then and left.

Lacking social cues, uncalibrated, and needy. The girl is not going to ditch her gf for some random guy she just met, and also told you she has a husband, but because you were now ignoring both social cues that she's not interested, the gf stepped in and defended.

I asked about her friends. She said they’re else where. I said “ you don’t need any friends now. You’ve got me.” She laughs and said she has a bf. I said its ok I wanna be your friend. I’m the best friend ever. She gave me her number but didn’t answer on the second day.

Lame as fuck, needy, weird. She laughed but that diffused tension, not create attraction. She gave you her number out of politeness so you'd go away, with no intention to talk to you again. Plus she has a bf.

She sits there. I walked up to her with direct opener. I asked if she was Russian, she said yes. I said “ you see how smart I am.” She said something something and then I just closed the deal and asked for number but she said no firmly.

Lame, needy. You qualified yourself - huge no-no - it's needy and weak. Again going for the kill way too soon - before she even knows you exist.

I asked her to join me to launch she said she cant coz her bf is there. I said its fine. I’ll talk to him too. Let’s go. She said no no its just two adults talking here nothing else. I persisted a little then left without her.

Lacking social cues, needy. No girl with her bf around is going to join you for a "date" while her bf is there. Think about it. Exit politely and find a girl who's actually available.

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So overall, what you need to do is learn how to talk to women and bond emotionally with women, instead of focusing on the goal of getting her number or going on a date. You are too goal focused. If I were to coach you, I would tell you to go talk to women and talk to each girl for as long as possible about HER, not yourself, but never ever ask for their number or for a date or to go out somewhere with them. Not yet. Just learn how to talk.

 

[Raqimus]

Pooda hit the nail on the head but while reading your about your approaches i just felt like you were off putting. Do what he says and at the same time work on your fundamentals. That includes Posture, eye contact, facial expressions, walk, manner of speech. Essentially just work on your nonverbal communication.

 

[One_of_kind_200]

I literally get rejected instantly like within 2 mins of talking. I'm tall, dark, and handsome. and I practice what Chase says yet get no results at all.

Your fundamentals and vibe are in congruent or lacking. Fix this.

Please help me how. I'm not sure what vibe is and what kind I am giving.

I don't know what you look like, nor have I seen you, but will try based on what you describe.

Everyone goes thru this phase early on, by the way, so don't feel bad about it. Also, I'm going to be brutally honest, which usually hurts at first because your ego takes a hit, but brutal honestly is what will ultimately cause real improvement.

Overall, you are uncalibrated in your approaches, don't understand social cues, are lame, and are needy. Also, you're trying to go for the kill before they even know you exist - you have to bond with women. All these cause the women you approach or their friends to throw up there defenses very quickly, or exit politely.

So I said give it to me and give it back to you so this counts. She laughed and called me adorable several times then when I asked where they were going and if I could go out with them. They said no.

Uncalibrated, needy. You invited yourself too fast, you need to bond with the girl so that she invites YOU or gives you signals that she's inviting you. You went for the kill way too fast.

She said her husband is from Egypt. I know from my experience so far, that its a big lie. So I persisted a little and asked her to ditch her gf and come with me. Her gf stepped in and said she wouldnt. I said I am talking to her, not to you. She said beat off and I said fuck off then and left.

Lacking social cues, uncalibrated, and needy. The girl is not going to ditch her gf for some random guy she just met, and also told you she has a husband, but because you were now ignoring both social cues that she's not interested, the gf stepped in and defended.

I asked about her friends. She said they’re else where. I said “ you don’t need any friends now. You’ve got me.” She laughs and said she has a bf. I said its ok I wanna be your friend. I’m the best friend ever. She gave me her number but didn’t answer on the second day.

Lame as fuck, needy, weird. She laughed but that diffused tension, not create attraction. She gave you her number out of politeness so you'd go away, with no intention to talk to you again. Plus she has a bf.

She sits there. I walked up to her with direct opener. I asked if she was Russian, she said yes. I said “ you see how smart I am.” She said something something and then I just closed the deal and asked for number but she said no firmly.

Lame, needy. You qualified yourself - huge no-no - it's needy and weak. Again going for the kill way too soon - before she even knows you exist.

I asked her to join me to launch she said she cant coz her bf is there. I said its fine. I’ll talk to him too. Let’s go. She said no no its just two adults talking here nothing else. I persisted a little then left without her.

Lacking social cues, needy. No girl with her bf around is going to join you for a "date" while her bf is there. Think about it. Exit politely and find a girl who's actually available.

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So overall, what you need to do is learn how to talk to women and bond emotionally with women, instead of focusing on the goal of getting her number or going on a date. You are too goal focused. If I were to coach you, I would tell you to go talk to women and talk to each girl for as long as possible about HER, not yourself, but never ever ask for their number or for a date or to go out somewhere with them. Not yet. Just learn how to talk.

Got some points here, but I dont think you know how women act when they say they have a bf. Most are liars, especially if shes 21 in a bar and says shes married. OH come on ? Plus, and this is one of my biggest problems with all dating advice, is that the advice is too vague. You said I learn how to talk to women and bond emotionally? yeah well how ?
Wrong.Chase constantly tells us that all of our conversations with women must going toward somewhere. Dont talk for sake of talking unless you wanna socialize. Girls want you to move things forward.

 

[Grand Pooba]

I dont think you know how women act when they say they have a bf. Most are liars, especially if shes 21 in a bar and says shes married. OH come on ?

Yeah you're coming on too strong to them and freaking them out, thus they throw up their defenses, of which one is saying she has a bf. Not all girls are liars, though.
But they are protective. You have to learn to distinguish between when she has a bf for real, and when she just wants you to leave.

. You said I learn how to talk to women and bond emotionally? yeah well how ?

Best way is through practice and experience. Just keep approaching and tallking to girls for as long as possible without it going somewhere. Stop focusing on sex.

If you search GirlsChase you should be able to find plenty of articles on how to talk to girls. There are lots.

Chase constantly tells us that all of our conversations with women must going toward somewhere. Dont talk for sake of talking unless you wanna socialize. Girls want you to move things forward.

Yes they do want you move things forward. That advice is for men who connect with women but are too afraid to act. However, you have a different issue, you are moving too fast without any connection. You still have to connect with a woman emotionally, whether for a one night stand or for a relationship. So you first must learn to connect before moving things forward. I don't think the latter will be an issue for you at all once you learn the former.

Best of luck!

 

[.....]

Hey man,

I feel ya,
First, don't take these things at face value

I went from the similar rough patch too. I wasn't seeing any result, it was just rejection after rejection.

I was doing the same thing you are doing. Just running the process before connecting to her a little bit, and going for the pull (no.) just after talking a little.

Quick question : do yo feel like you'r gonna get reject even before approaching?

I think you need to do few things first.

- Meditation.
- Visualisation. (imagine yourself approaching girls and they are enjoying your presence and giggling and all that)

- Stop thinking negatively.

Focus on fundamentals :

- posture
- voice
- sexy walk
- fitting clothes
etc.

And then, what you need to do is.......gauge her interest so that you don't get rejected. The truth is even professionals get rejected.

Before going for no. Pull, ask for compliance. Like ask her to move with you....even few foot. Ask her to show her bracelate, earring, some jewellery she have,

If she complies, like moving with you, showing you her bracelet, earrings. That's green signal. She's interested.

If she doesn't, you may still try for the pull. You never know.

Chase says 'it's not you she's rejecting, it's you game she's rejecting'. You don't have much of approach anxiety. You're just messing yourself up .

 

[One_of_kind_200]

I dont think you know how women act when they say they have a bf. Most are liars, especially if shes 21 in a bar and says shes married. OH come on ?

Yeah you're coming on too strong to them and freaking them out, thus they throw up their defenses, of which one is saying she has a bf. Not all girls are liars, though.
But they are protective. You have to learn to distinguish between when she has a bf for real, and when she just wants you to leave.

. You said I learn how to talk to women and bond emotionally? yeah well how ?

Best way is through practice and experience. Just keep approaching and tallking to girls for as long as possible without it going somewhere. Stop focusing on sex.

If you search GirlsChase you should be able to find plenty of articles on how to talk to girls. There are lots.

Chase constantly tells us that all of our conversations with women must going toward somewhere. Dont talk for sake of talking unless you wanna socialize. Girls want you to move things forward.

Yes they do want you move things forward. That advice is for men who connect with women but are too afraid to act. However, you have a different issue, you are moving too fast without any connection. You still have to connect with a woman emotionally, whether for a one night stand or for a relationship. So you first must learn to connect before moving things forward. I don't think the latter will be an issue for you at all once you learn the former.

Best of luck!

You are right about the connection part but how to connect if they shut you down within minutes?

 

[Richard]

OoAK,

Pooba gave you great advice, already. Chase responded to a post a while ago that, I feel, is parallel to what you need; Check Out This Post.

Anyway, you're taking action but you're also looking for a roadmap it seems like; you want the complete "How To Guide" and you won't find one.

Here's what I'm seeing;

"Why do girls reject me? --> Your fundamentals and vibe are off --> Well, what are those? --> Your vibe is that of somebody who is uncalibrated, needy, lame and that's why women are rejecting you. The best thing for you to do is to learn to build a connection with women --> Well, how can I build a connection if they reject me?" Pooba is telling you that girls are rejecting you becauseyou're not building a connection and you're responding with "I can't build a connection because they're rejecting me" instead of going out and actually testing his advice. He already told you the best thing for you to do, right now, is;

I would tell you to go talk to women and talk to each girl for as long as possible about HER, not yourself, but never ever ask for their number or for a date or to go out somewhere with them. Not yet. Just learn how to talk.

Not trying to be mean or harsh here but you're approaching things the wrong way. Give his advice a whirl and see what happens and then report back with your next sticking point. It doesn't do you any good and people won't want to help you or give advice when you're given advice and respond with "Well, I can't do that."

-Richard

 

[DonAngelo]

OoAK,

Anyway, you're taking action but you're also looking for a roadmap it seems like; you want the complete "How To Guide" and you won't find one.

Here's what I'm seeing;

"Why do girls reject me? --> Your fundamentals and vibe are off --> Well, what are those? --> Your vibe is that of somebody who is uncalibrated, needy, lame and that's why women are rejecting you. "

Since the momment he said he looks "okay" we know the lack of everything he had :/

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

I smell some misogyny.

Hector