Why don’t women show more interest?

[TrailBlazer]

Most seductions I’ve had almost didn’t happen. I had to baby-step everything, and had I messed anything up at any part of the process, I would have lost the girl.

That’s not too solid or stable! And I really want girls to express how much they want me before I make some move.

Otherwise I feel like I’m just dragging them along the process! Sure, they get to feel like “it just happened”, but what about my need of feeling desired? It’s not just about making the woman comfortable, is it?

Only like twice I’ve had the girl tell me she wanted me to make a move, and I had to build a ton of attraction beforehand.

Why don’t girls show their inner hunter more? When they do nothing, how can I be sure that I’m special to her? Any guy could come and seduce her! And I don’t want to be any guy. I want to feel chosen.

Maybe my fundamentals are low? Do even highly attractive men have to deal with girls showing low interest? How do they not let that affect them?

 

[Chase]

@TrailBlazer,

Your answer is here:

Why Won't Women Just Say What They Want?

Women use ambiguity for three (3) reasons: to expose a man’s true colors, to retain room to maneuver, and to preserve their social reputations. Maybe an hour ago, I finished reviewing a lesson from The Dating Artisan, part of my upcoming master class on succeeding with women. For each of these...

www.girlschase.com

Chase

 

[Skills]

how to know if your fundamentals is the problem

I thought i do a quick post and actually i want people to participate and give their opinion on when to know is your fundamentals.... now my definition of fundamentals i think is different or may not from the definition of the community.... For me fundamentals are the external factors we can...

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[Levo]

what about my need of feeling desired? It’s not just about making the woman comfortable, is it?

I want to feel chosen.

Life is not fair. Its your job to make her feel desired and comfortable, not the other way around. Women want to be sucked into your frame and lead by you, not the other way around. The quicker you embrace the process instead of fighting it the easier it will be on you.

Them sleeping with you IS LETTING YOU KNOW YOUVE BEEN CHOSEN. Do you really think she just sleeps with any rando that "seduces" her but she doesn't think theyre special?

It sounds like youre escalating too slowly. If a girl has to tell you to make a move shes telling you youre going too slowly. If theyre still talking to you generally theyre still interested. If they let you touch them, theyre interested. If they move somewhere with you, even if its just across the room, theyre interested. Push the boundaries a bit and see what you can get as early as you can. The calibration will come with experience.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Life is not fair. Its your job to make her feel desired and comfortable, not the other way around. Women want to be sucked into your frame and lead by you, not the other way around. The quicker you embrace the process instead of fighting it the easier it will be on you.

Them sleeping with you IS LETTING YOU KNOW YOUVE BEEN CHOSEN. Do you really think she just sleeps with any rando that "seduces" her but she doesn't think theyre special?

It sounds like youre escalating too slowly. If a girl has to tell you to make a move shes telling you youre going too slowly. If theyre still talking to you generally theyre still interested. If they let you touch them, theyre interested. If they move somewhere with you, even if it’s just across the room, theyre interested. Push the boundaries a bit and see what you can get as early as you can. The calibration will come with experience.

From what I’ve heard from women, many of them do sleep with any at least somehow attractive rando that escalates at least somehow properly. Which pisses me off because I know how to build attraction very well but then some guy who doesn’t even know this website takes the girl.

I try not to take too much action in terms of escalation nowadays. Why? I’ve overdone it in the past and it always ended badly. Two girls literally ran away from our date because I tried to kiss them too fast. So now I’m trying to calibrate by almost not doing anything. I don’t want to creep girls out anymore..

But I will keep testing it, right now I want to test the idea of micro escalations.

 

[Alchemist]

I've thought about this a lot.

To analyze this better, let's take a look at the extremes of the spectrum.

Firstly, extremely high value men do receive this type of interest. If you think of celebrities and tall and good looking men (recently popular example), women fawn over them and show them lots of attention. They stop these guys for autographs and to get their numbers and compliment them directly.

I've went out with guys where women stopped and opened them right on the street or out in clubs, it's wild to see it in person. They're unusually tall and with amazing facial features.

Now that we've established women CAN and DO show interest in super obvious ways, we need to realize these are extremely rare circumstances. What I described is not normal, It's unnaturally rare and special. If you want results like this, and you don't have the perfect combination of unusually tall genes (I can personally attest even 6 feet isn't enough) with perfect facial harmony, you need to go and be reincarnated (RIP Kevin Samuels, his advice).

Or if you can't be reincarnated, and you want to receive this type of reactions from women then you need to spend 3 to 5 years at best building a personal brand online (in a fun niche mind you!) and enjoying the attention from women.

Secondly, on the other end of the extreme, for 99.95% of the male population and male experience of the world, the range of results vary from women not acknowledging your existence as a human being to women acting coy/shy/hesitant and coming home with you while you blow their backs out.

In this case as others have stated, the fact that she follows your orders and comes home with you IS THE PRIZE and ATTENTION.

You need to snap back to reality and realize men either spend years alone, without any female attention or a few partners in their ENTIRE LIVES. So the fact that we can learn game and rack up two, three or heck, four digit body counts is already a secret weapon.

Funny enough, these days if a girl shows too much attention unwarranted and early on, my spidey senses tell me something might be wrong, if she's a hooker or trying to get something from me etc.

 

[average_daygamer]

To the Op, I notice this too and it is leading to apathy. By which I mean, approach apathy. It's boring, most approaches result in a rejection of some kind.

I like quick approaches, but apparently they don't work because the girl doesn't know about you.

But they are better because they are more casual and you can do them in passing.

I like to be quicky in and out. Example: "Hey, I was just on my way out but I noticed you working out and I have to say, you look pretty dedicated"

Wait her her response, ask which muscle group she is training then ask if she wants to hang out sometime. But apparently these approaches don't build enough investment. Why don't I chat to her for 5 minutes? Because she might not want to chat for 5 minutes. Asking if she wants to hang is a good way for gauge interest without making it awkward.

 

[D. Gately]

Read Models by Manson.

My [and his] first take is you're not polarizing enough.

Now try going up to the same girls in a suit/tie/cufflinks [insert notable fashion archtype here], asking her if what she's drinking is any good at this place, order something, and start taking about 50 Shades of Gray/you saw a flyer for a class on rope-tying/Prada's fall collection.

If she's not interested you will get blown out fast and save yourself lots of time.

If she is, she's going to give you every chance to pick her up that evening, even if she isn't willing to sleep with you.

Here's the last girl, shy & introverted, I picked up but didn't bang on first date:
'I had a great time with you tonight, got home safe'
'I can't wait to see you again'

Now what do you think happened very early on date 2?