Why hard sell taking women home but not when asking for first date?

[The Byronic Man]

Once again, thank you, Richard. Very good explanation. You rock!

 

[Richard]

No problem bro. If you need any other advice feel free to PM anytime, I'm going to be less frequent on the boards.

-Richard

 

[trashKENNUT]

When a girl is girlfriend material like I said, do everything you would normally, but tweak it ever so slightly, and move things a little slower. Me personally, I still like to kiss and make out fast because I enjoy kissing, and if she does too, and I'm going to try girlfriending her anyway, then why not do it when you can?

It depends though, because some girls, once they see you being "boyfriend material", and when you move things slower too much, i personally believe that the more experience girl will start cancelled out sex altogether.

Also happens with girls who are moderately experienced, but i think you said tweak a little. Probably not much trouble.

Zac

 

[Richard]

Zac, you are right about women canceling sex altogether after not getting from you soon after meeting her (date 1 or 2). But I find that this only happens if you lead then on to expect sex from you soon, then you're letting down a hope of their's.

But, if you approach a girl, and portray yourself as a lover, boyfriend, etc then she doesn't expect quick sex, from jump street, she sees you as a long term partner. This in it of itself is a natural qualifier, because girls who want quick sex generally won't stick around for it (like you said)

So, I think a big portion of this dilemma are the "expectations" you set.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Zphix,

I think we mis-communicate somewhere. I need Chase to put some light here if possible, because i like kisses and making out too, but some women just note this as "boyfriend material" kind of thing, and pull away before i could do anything.

Zac

 

[Richard]

Zac,

I don't think its a matter of mis-communication, rather a matter of preference in women. Not all women run agreeing on the same modes of sex/relationship building.

Some women think that kissing and making out is purely sexual and not a sign of a boyfriend/girlfriend relation.

While some women think sex is the sign of a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, and also view kissing as a sign of it as well.

Basically, kissing and making out will most commonly be felt as a sign of BF/GF relation, but in some cases will not. I think that is where the problem lies.

-Richard