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Why my natural friend can get lays but can't get them to come back for more!

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Space Monkey
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I've talked a lot about my natural friend. There has always been one thing with him - he can get laid but only once or twice. He never gets into a relationship even purely physical one. And I've been thinking a lot about this. If he could sleep with those girls on a more regular base with no romantic attachments why wouldn't he.

Why sleep with a girl only once when you can sleep with her lots of times.

A couple of hours ago we started talking about sex. The conversation started when a girl he likes is tall like almost 6 feet. And I made a remark that it might be better if a girl is a bit shorter cause it'll be easier to move her around. At least that's how I think it it.

And he asked me why the fuck would you need to move her or lift her.

And I told him that the way I imagine having sex is a bit rougher. I mean pinning her against the wall while kissing her. Pinning her arms. Throwing her on the bed. Dominating her. Lightly choking her. Spanking her. Dirty talking. Even tying her up.

And he was shocked almost angry. He told me "wow it really shows that you have't had sex. Girls don't like this stuff.. it's not a porno. Girls only enjoy missionary slow and gentle and soft and not dominating her in any way.".

And I told him that this sounds super vanilla and boring. I want to have passionate, raw, rough, animalistic sex with the girls I'm bedding.

He started laughing and said again that It shows that I have no experience with women, cause they really don't like that stuff.





During this conversation I figured out that this was most probably the reason why he only slept with girls once. The sex is boring for the girls and they don't want any more of it. And he's always complaining that things never work out with girls if he wants something more serious than just sex one time. And how girls are horrible liars and the few girlfriends he's had all cheated on him, because women are horrible.
I realized that those girls don't want anything more cause the sex is not good and he's handling way to gentle. And that's why they cheated on him - they were seriously sexually bored.

I told him this and he refused and stated how girls don't like rough sex and only enjoy slow and soft sex.




I wander how can he be good with getting the girls to sleep with them, but the moment the clothes come off - he turns into a giant pussy and acts like one.
And when I told him how I'd have rough and passionate sex with the girls I bed. He told me "yeah good luck with keeping a girl with that. they'll walk out on you while you're trying that rough sex stuff. Maybe only a super slut or a porn star or prostitute might like rough/passionate sex". And I bet he's communicating this to them. That if she likes dirty, rough, passionate, kinky sex - she's a slut. So they can't even open up and tell/show him that they do actually like this kind of sex, because they fear being judged - which they will be if they admit it.




It's weird being able to get a girl to be but not being able to give her good sex and keep her around.


I honestly feel like most guys think this way too. That girls are super pure and should be handled really carefully during sex, like she'll break. I simply don't want that. I want rough passionate sex that will make me and the girl get to total exhaustion and not being able to catch our breaths after we're finished. To the point where she can't say her name and has a huge silly grin on her face that stays there the whole day and she can't wait for round 2.
 
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Drck

Cro-Magnon Man
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He is tall and that is attractive, but IMO it doesn’t necessary means that he is a Natural. He is a Nice Guy who with his natural attraction (being tall) is able to nail the girl relatively fast. But for the reason that he is nice, gentle and slow as you describe, they leave him. Those girls are most likely disappointed because he treats her like a fucking princesses, and he LOOKS more sexy than he really is. If they like that romantic way they would come back…

This guy has no clue about those girls, he has no idea what is seduction, yet he manages to get laid...

You already know hundreds of times more than this guy, you know much more about those girls - and you still can’t get laid... It is because you are in your own way, you are looking for difficult ways of getting laid, you are seeking sophisticated ways to seduce her, you are building barriers for yourself…
 

Richard

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Ico,

What it ultimately boils down to is the amount of success you see with women - he's getting laid still, even if he's letting the women down.

Like Drck says though - I wouldn't call him a natural either for the same reasons Drck outlined.

From my experience, and the experience of everyone I've ever talked to - women love sex that makes them have orgasms. The best way to make a girl orgasm is through the rough, pounding sex. Granted, I can also make a girl orgasm with slower, deeper sex where the orgasms come more from a combination of physical and emotional stimulation.

The fact is, when you fuck a girl and make her scream! She's going to want to keep you around, and she will actively work to set up meets with you. Anyway, in this debate between you and your friend, you win and your friend is wrong by all accounts (within the debate), but realistically, he's getting laid nevertheless.

I honestly feel like most guys think this way too. That girls are super pure and should be handled really carefully during sex, like she'll break. I simply don't want that. I want rough passionate sex that will make me and the girl get to total exhaustion and not being able to catch our breaths after we're finished. To the point where she can't say her name and has a huge silly grin on her face that stays there the whole day and she can't wait for round 2.

You've got the best sexual mindset you can have - now all you need to do is start approaching buddy. When you reach this point - you'll notice just how wrong your friend is, and you'll also have the option to keep a girl around or let her go because you'll be a hot commodity and pick-up will be easy for you. Like me, only 5 (of 16 lays) have ever gotten into any kind of relationship (whether that be FWB, or actual relationship) - other than that you have the liberty to do with women as you please.

-Richard

P.S. You should tell your natural friend to check out the Field Reports section of the boards ;)
 
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