Women who reject men of their own ethnicity are damaged goods.

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I am no stranger to posting controversial threads and I might just be outdoing myself here but I think that women, regardless of their race, who refuse to date or sleep with men of their own ethnicity are inherently damaged and have some serious issues. When I say ethnicity, I could very well mean nationality and a given ethnic appearance. For a group like white people, the ethnic appearance varies a great deal as someone from Southern Italy would usually look different than someone from Sweden. So if you had a Sicilian chick that refused to go for Sicilian guys and went for everyone else, I would think she was damaged goods.

Am I saying interracial dating is wrong?

Not at all!

I think a woman can date interracial all she wants as long as she is open to men of her own background but when she excludes men from her own background, there is definitely something going on inside of her which should be a red flag.

So it is completely okay for a woman to prefer men of other races but a complete rejection of men or her race or even a lack of any preference for them means these women are damaged goods.

With a few rare exceptions here and there, majority of the sex I have had was with women of other races, I am the last guy to say that interracial dating is wrong. In fact, I think people can do what they please but I do want to say that women who refuse to date men of their own heritage have some serious issues no matter what their race is. This applies to women of all race so even if a hot white girl exclusively dated interracial and avoided guys of her race, I would think there was something wrong with her even though it would be favorable to me.

Lets look at things that would make a woman reject men of her own race to where she refuses to date one.

Some common examples will include lack of a good father figure, low self-esteem about her own appearance or some sort of a messed up life experience that caused her to hate anyone that resembles people from her tribe. The other key driver could just be an aggressive hunger for status so say you have a Colombian woman that only goes for white guys and nothing else, most of the times it is going to be with what white is associated with in her country and the active disdain for anyone that looks remotely like a person from her tribe. It is a situation where a woman is running away from something rather than trying to go for what she might be physically attracted to, she is using dating and the men she chases after as a means of fulfilling a lot of voids in her life.

Most of the women who have this mindset are mentally and emotionally damaged.

I think a good example of this are ethnic women born and raised in the US who despise ethnic men and exclusively chase after white guys. While Asian American women are famous for doing this, it is true for Latinas and even brown women these days as well. In almost all of these cases, the situation is the same. The girl will usually reject a handsome and high quality guy of her own race for a lower value white guy because in her mind, it raises her social status more. Deep down inside she has a massive inferiority complex to where she can't stand what she looks at when she looks in the mirror and despises men of her own background because of not having the same value as a white woman in her eyes. Yet this is the same woman who will try to ruin ethnic men and try to lower their value at every turn, a good example of this is Esther Ku. It might not come out immediately but I do think that to some degree, it is going to come out in the form of a lot of mental health and emotional issues that any guy who is unfortunate enough to end up with her might deal with.

Similarly, I think white women that refuse to date white men have issues as well. For the most part I think it is due to having a lower value or feeling a sense of bitterness of not being accepted by other whites.

There is always an underlying issue, usually of mental and emotional stability, at play.

The same also goes for men, I think men who completely reject women of their own race have the same issues.

The minority chasing exclusively after white girls has some deep-rooted issues of inferiority, even I have learned to love ethnic pussy over the past year.

White guys who completely reject white women are usually social rejects that never had a chance with high quality women of their own race to begin with.

Now this is different from a white guy who prefers Asian women but won't mind sleeping with a sexy white girl or a brown guy that prefers blonde women but won't mind sleeping with a hot brown girl.

It had to be said but I said it.

 

[ThePhoenix]

Interesting observations and I think they probably are true in some cases. However, I don't think that such strict, formulaic, as-a-rule generalizations adequately capture the vast variety of human minds and experiences.

Now, one has to be careful to not conflate romantic and sexual interest with general affinity. If you won't sleep with your cousin, does that mean you hate your family? Did you know that there have been some societies where it was taboo to marry someone even just from the same tribe? Does that mean every single conforming member of those tribes hated their own tribe? Do I hate all men including myself because I am heterosexual?

White guys who completely reject white women are usually social rejects that never had a chance with high quality women of their own race to begin with.

Just curious, how many of these men have you actually run into? It's hard to reliably study something you can barely find!

Inherent in this argument is the assumption that, if only he could get a white woman, he would. This is an argument used by white supremacists.

I don't exactly apply, because for me it's a case of selective inclusion, not selective exclusion - I only go for black women (and sometimes mixtures with black). But I'm the closest and only reference point I have on this topic so I'll have to use me.

I'm not exactly a social reject. A little introverted, yes. But I'm well-liked in whatever social circles I put myself in and once I open up I usually don't have much trouble being liked by new people. I had some degree of popularity in high school - enough that after graduating, I'd commonly run into people who remembered me from HS who I didn't remember at all.

I don't care to test this assertion, but I don't think I'd have any more trouble with white women than black women. Well, maybe other than lack of enthusiasm rubbing off on them. Black women are not easy, particularly where I'm living. They're used to sexually agressive men. Yeah, some have a thing for white guys, but those are not the norm. Game is game. I expect that once I've mastered game, women of any race wouldn't be a problem, although that won't change what I want.

Just as a concrete example, I opened a two set in a clothing store I guess a couple months back, and this is not usually the case, but this particular time it was a black girl and a white girl. Both would be quite attractive by most guys' measures, but of course I was going for the black girl. Anyway, even though I was pretty obvious in which one I wanted, the white girl was at least as friendly with me as the black girl, maybe even more so. I certainly didn't get the sense she was untouchable to me. Not that I cared.

I did have fairly large exposure to black women (and people) growing up and didn't have my mother from a young age, and perhaps that had a role; but whether or not that would qualify as an "issue" is debatable and really requires a robust definition of just what an "issue" is!

Basic personality traits may have played a role in how absolute I am. For instance, I tend toward non-conformity. "You expect me to do A? I will do W!" Been like that since single-digit ages - probably could count the number of times I visited McDonald's as a kid on one hand. I also have a bit of an obsessive personality type (which has both advantages and disadvantages). There may also have been a positive feedback loop that embedded the preference into my personality, with going against it increasingly feeling like a violation of self-determination. I'm also just generally an extremely stubborn person.

And genetic diversity could really play a role, too, considering that the exact type I most prefer happens to have an unusually strong divergence from my genotype, but it's not like I looked at an SNP analysis before I went nuts for them - I only found out afterwards. It was more instinctive... I just find them insanely beautiful!! Of course, my appreciating this process consciously only serves to reinforce my unwillingness to break the preference, and I'll dare say, even somewhat rationally - I later discovered I actually have a mild clinical deficiency that's really uncommon in the populations I'm attracted to.

And here's another aspect, just to show how varied and individual people are in their thinking: I'm strongly opposed to marriage, and indeed not even keen on monogamy at all. But there is some risk that resisting marriage to a black woman might lead to someone insinuating to her, "if you were white, he would marry you." It's a common narrative, black women getting shafted in favour of white women. Well, my never having hit on anything else in my entire life would certainly make that accusation rather untenable! In some sense, my being extremely polar is a reaction to the world being extremely polar.

I do harbor some resentment towards society's pedestalizing white women. Not because it makes them harder for me (I really don't care how hard or easy they are), but because it's senseless, being that there's nothing particularly better about them, and it harms the women I do admire, for instance, making them go to great lengths to straighten their hair and get lighter skin, which utterly breaks my heart!

All considered, it would be pretty much impossible to pin it down to one single thing... I'm a little bit more complex than your statement!!!!

...but won't mind sleeping with a sexy white girl...

He may not find her all that sexy. Remember, beauty is largely subjective.

This whole issue is actually something I've had to think about with respect to black women who are into white men. But based on my own introspection I know that a person's mating strategy is not conclusive evidence of their general feelings toward their own race, and especially not toward themselves. It has to be examined in the context of the whole person. So, she's only ever dated white men? Install a smoke alarm. Does she wear her hair natural? If so, I'm really not worried about her (because when black people hate blackness, "nappy" hair is the first thing to go). If she wears weave, I am now smelling some smoke, but maybe it's just burnt toast. She says black men are lazy, don't pay child support, don't treat a girl right? Now I head for the fire exit.

Cheers,
Phoenix

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I think this applies more to women than it does to men because men are more hardwired to go for women based on looks alone. Based on what you have told me though, there are things about you such as a mother not being around growing up as well as being an outcast which prove my point somewhat right. I do think most white guys who claim not to be attracted to white women and exclusively go interracial have some sort of issues. Maybe it is taste but I have found that these guys often diss white women and then get angry at minorities for dating the sexy ones, wanting one themselves deep down.

TBH, I feel the same way about minorities that exclusively go for white women. Most of the times it is the mentality of having something to prove or some sort of an inferiority complex that leads to those sorts of things.

Now I do think that this applies to women more since women tend to take things outside of looks into account.

If I see a Latina or Mediterranean chick that is mostly dating pale white guys, I immediately know she has major issues and hates men of her own race. She is very likely to be status hungry and is trying to climb a social ladder. This goes for most ethnic women out there as well, Asian American women are pretty much known for being this way which is why I largely avoid them.

 

[ThePhoenix]

... as well as being an outcast ...

I didn't say anything about being an outcast! Went against the grain a lot, yes, but I wasn't an outcast. I always had friends and indeed often a fair degree of popularity. I also had a fair bit of blood family around; it was only my mother I didn't have - I wasn't an orphan!

Not having my mother could have contributed if you go by the theory that we use the opposite-sex parent as an "archetype" for our ideal mate. Not having my mother could have left me not imprinted on white women and instead a "blank slate" able to imprint on any type that happened to be prominent in my environment. And again, calling this an "issue" would be a stretch.

... these guys often diss white women ...

Personally I don't do that. It's immature. There've been some occasions I may have joked among guy friends at some of the inferior examples, but at this point I don't even do that because I know it's not reflective of them as a whole. I have nothing against white women (until they cross a black woman), have some as friends (though admittedly not nearly as many as black women), and am respectful with those I encounter.

... and then get angry at minorities for dating the sexy ones ...

Big huge red flag here! I totally agree with your assessment in regard to any white guy who does this. That's obvious jealousy!

Me personally, I have nothing but love for minority guys who date white women. One more minority girl for me!! ;D [Exception: Black guys who talk shit about black women left and right and throw them under every bus in sight in order to justify their preference for white women.]

Trust me, I harbor absolutely no secret desire for sexy white girls. (Sexy South Sudanese girls, fuck yeah, but that's no secret.) I'm the type who, if I want something, I'm not going to engage in asinine self-delusions such as pretending I don't want it and/or getting mad at those who have it, I'll put the work in to get it. Even if that means moving to Africa!

Now I do think that this applies to women more since women tend to take things outside of looks into account.

Fair enough. I know for me it's largely a visual (i.e., genetic) thing. Women being more concerned with social status, they could in theory be more prone to the patterns you speak of.

I do suspect you're right some of the time for minority women, and men, who are trying to "date upwards" socially and are being affected by the milieu of white supremacy.

I think the matter is a little more murky for white women who only date minorities. It's not necessarily - and I'd venture to say very often not - a lack of acceptance. In some cases, I think these women could be from families that disapprove of their dating darker races and are doing it out of rebellion. Or they may have romanticized or sexualized stereotypes of certain foreign/ethnic men.

But in all these cases we are stereotyping about individual people who, with myself as an example, are not always easy to fit into cookie cutter patterns. I replied not so much because I don't think the things you speak of ever happen, but more because most blanket "X do Y because Z" statements will often be completely off the mark for a particular human being you're standing in front of.

In some cases in either direction, it could also be a matter of having had a particular initial experience that colors (ha ha) the person's impression of future potential mates. I guarantee you there's at least one Latina out there (and statistically speaking, probably a lot more than one) whose first time was a white guy who tore her pussy up good, for whom that became her personal stereotype (in spite of it maybe going against broader stereotypes) such that now white guys are all she looks at.

Another thing I find interesting is what a fuss people make over other people having a strong interracial preference, when nobody bats an eyelash if someone has a strong intraracial preference.

When's the last time you heard about someone getting their feathers ruffled over Indian girls that only date Indian guys? Or African guys who only date African girls? The worst might be a white person who only dates white people, who runs a slight risk of being called a white supremacist, but even that's unlikely, except maybe for self-declared white supremacists, in which case it's a moot point. If it's your own race you strongly prefer in your bed, it's just not newsworthy.

Cheers,
Phoenix