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FR++  Working on pulling home. Did it, but ran into LMR! (would LOVE advice)

pickupq123

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Hey guys,

One of my last couple of posts here was describing how I had so much trouble simply asking the girl to come home with me after the date. Well I finally did it on my past two dates and they both went pretty well! To put this all in perspective, I'm a 23 y.o virgin, so my experience is rock bottom, aside from college makeout sessions. Anyways,

A week ago I finally asked a girl to come home with me after a date, and she surprisingly said yes, so we went to my place. I made her take the shoes off at the door, asked her what she wanted to drink (she said whatever I was having, and I chose water) and i set on my bed and signaled her to set next to me as I set up netflix. Long story short, I FINALLY made a move after about 45 minutes and we started making out. As this was my first make out session in who knows how long, and first make out session ever being sober, I really didn't escalate beyond that. I knew I needed to push myself further, but I was pretty nervous and was content with hooking up with someone. I met the girl for a second date, but that went awry, so never saw here again (see post history).

One week later, asked a new girl to come home and she said yes too. On this one, I finally pushed every boundary I could, and as geeky as this sounds, I was sort of excited I ran into LMR at the end because I finally understand what some of you guys and what some of the articles were talking about, and could relate to it. Here's how it went, and advice would be appreciated for what I did wrong/what I can do better.

Brought her back to my place, set up on the couch. Sat right next to her, made us both one alcoholic drink (It was Sat night). After about 25 minutes I went for the kiss, and SHE WENT AT IT. I was focusing this time on moving my hands around, up and down her body. Eventually I repositioned her so I could maneuver over her body easily. Eventually I was getting really hot, so I picked her up and moved her to my bedroom, telling her there was a fan in there and I wanted to cool down.

Started going at it again. I eventually moved my kisses to the jawline and neck and then down to the chest, where I pushed her shirt and bra down and started kissing and sucking around and on the nipple (this is my first time ever reaching "second base" BTW). Then, I tried to move my hand down her pants towards her ass, but her belt was on so tight that I couldn't squeeze any part of my hand down there. So instead I work back to the breasts and take her shirt and bra off. Here I take my shirt off and just try to get as much body contact as I could.

Here's where I started having some trouble:

I couldn't think of a "sexy" way to take off her belt so I could access her legs, so I had to take a 30 second break to unbuckle her belt, take off the belt, and take her pants off. I got no objection to this. So now I have a naked girl with just underwear in my bed. I continued kissing on her abdomen, working my way down to her thighs. Once I got to her inner thighs, here's where the LMR came in. She lightly moved my head back up to her upper body. No problem. A few minutes later, I tried to move my fingers down her pants, but she grabbed my hand and brought it up, and here's where I heard the famous "but we don't know each other that well". No worries there, so I take one step back and try one more time and i think I hit the clit from over the underwear, but for some reason I didn't really keep going at it. At this point she told me she really had to pee (and I really had to pee too). I also knew at this point I was doomed. The second she was out of my bed it was less likely anything would happen, and I was right. We hung out for an hour after then I drove her home.

Anyways, here's what I was struggling with during this experience, and would LOVE advice from seasoned vets.

1) I was having trouble with "positioning" during the whole thing. Like, I was trying to position my thigh over her crotch to get some stimulation, but it never felt "right".
2) I was having trouble with bedroom talking. I forgot what she said exactly, but my response to it was "I think you're gorgeous." This may be too PG for bedroom.
3) I wasn't rock hard down below, and I felt like I should have been during this process. This kind of worried and worries me for the future. I REALLY wanted to take her hand and shove it down my pants, but being only like 30% chub, I was worried I would force her hand down there and still not get hard. Then I would just be on a downward spiral. I also tried try dry humping her between her legs (my boxers, her panties), and I got like a half-boner, but still wasn't rock hard. I think I was just so focused on exploring a girl's body for the first time that I was trying to do everything right and was focusing on positioning, etc. Has anyone ever had this problem, and is there a way to fix it?
4) This last one is probably going to sound really really dumb, but is there a way to figure out where the clit/vagina is when a girl has panties on. When I was trying to finger her over the pants, I didn't do it for long because I was nervous I was fingering just above the clit, then I would look like an idiot. Like, I obviously know the general area where it is, but I didn't want to seem inexperienced just rubbing my fingers straight up and down. Then again, with panties on, would this be the way to go about doing it?
5) What do you do when a girl has a belt/extremely tight pants on and you don't want to break the mood by taking off her belt/telling her to take off her pants!?!?!?
6) Any thoughts on this LMR?


Sorry this is a super long post, but I'm trying to learn as much as I can here. Overall while we didn't have sex, I'm super proud that I got this far with the second girl I've asked home. It was the first time I've really got to explore a girls body, so I'll take it for now. Any advice and suggestions for next time would be MUCH appreciated!
 

PrettyDecent

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Re: FR ++ Working on pulling home. Did it, but ran into LMR! (would LOVE advice)

Howdy Pickupq123,

Rockin' that you push through your inexperience and get girls home with you - that shows dedication and courage.

Thoughts:

pickupq123 said:
At this point she told me she really had to pee (and I really had to pee too).
It's good getting into the habit of going to the bathroom (and asking if she does, too) a few minutes before you start escalating. I really don't drink anything on my dates for this reason.

pickupq123 said:
I was having trouble with bedroom talking. I forgot what she said exactly, but my response to it was "I think you're gorgeous." This may be too PG for bedroom.
Dirty talk, or post-sex bonding type talk?

pickupq123 said:
I think I was just so focused on exploring a girl's body for the first time that I was trying to do everything right and was focusing on positioning, etc. Has anyone ever had this problem, and is there a way to fix it?
I'd say that's normal when you're escalating the first few times (and you're logically focused on the mechanics of escalating). When you're able to shut down logical thoughts, and just experience how good she feels, tastes, and looks - that's when you get hard.

How to Get Turned On and Beat Performance Anxiety with New Girls.

pickupq123 said:
is there a way to figure out where the clit/vagina is when a girl has panties on.
If you take your hand, and rub up and down where her vagina is, then you're basically set (well, so far as she has clothes on). The clit is positioned at the top of the lips/opening. You'll see it on the girls face when you're hitting the right spot.

Overall - solid job. You just need more experience pulling girls home and escalating. But you're transition moments and compliance demands to move (from the bar to your place, and from your living room to your bedroom) are right on.

~Nick
 
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maximus6004

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Re: FR ++ Working on pulling home. Did it, but ran into LMR! (would LOVE advice)

Great job!

Great article that you need to read. The california pimp, one and ,two. Then watch some.of his videos. I.did not believe this to be real at first, but as experience goes on.... lol its a hundred percent correct.

Watch that, and im glad I read this because.its just opened my eyes to a problem.I.have been having at not being logical. He always points out the womans feelings towards him. Whether.it be asking.if she is comfortable with him, or it be a smile. One thing.I use.from him everyone is putting the girls hand on my crotch and saying ina heavy deep moaning voice like a mmmmm omg look at what you do.to me and grind against her.hand this drive woman absolutely crazy. I also ask what do you want to do to me. If they say they arent up for anything.you.just havent turned them on enough yet. Dry humping, moaning and deep breathing in their ears all this stuff.works so well. They will actually tell you that you are turning them on really badly and.you can.just say, stop making me feel this way, I cant control myself around you.... like all logic disappear and all I can see you and omg you make me craxy for.you. lol try that, it works so.incredibly well its like a.magic pass.into their vaginas. Unless of.course they have a rule, then give it three times of.trying.to escalate in which point theyy will push you away say they cant and start dressing you always.give them the opportunity to.walk if.they want to.
 
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