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Cold approach
Sunday
This is probably the 10th+ approach of this outing
We are in this wide open walkway leading into a mall and I'm walking away from the entrance to the mall -while she is walking toards the mall
I let her walk past me and then turn around and do the side stop arm tap.
She stops I open indirect and say we should chat for 1-2mins
She says:
During this outing itself, I had bought a stainless steel chain for myself as a fashion upgrade and notice she's wearing a chain too.
We relate on that and I ask her what she does and she asks me what I do and lie about it (have told this lie well enough for it to be very good but a work in progress)
We converse for 5 minutes and she's not at all trying to say "hey I'm in a rush/I need to go somewhere" (which is what I always encounter with almost every other girl)
I say we should grab a coffee and she says sure
Becoming unsure of myself
I did not plan out my logistics and I didn't even know where I would take her and had no seduction location in mind.
As we walk into the mall, she sees some doubts in my body language and then she raises doubts about where we're going:
Her: I don't know what is going on here... If you want my number... You're not getting it
Me: (Said confidently) I just want to have a good conversation (Can't remember exactly what was said)
This assures her
I'm still unsure of myself but do a good job of keeping completely cool about being unsure of myself (I didn't like her very much so I didn't feel a lot of concern)
I decide to take her to this public bench on the 3rd floor of the mall and sit with her there. No coffee shop or anything
Forgetting her name and shit conversation
As we take escalators up and move closer to the bench, I realise that I 1. Forgot her name and 2. Am getting hit by some connection anxiety
I feel like ejecting from this interaction, I tell myself to stay the bloody course as I had ejected from an interaction the previous week and promised I would NEVER do that again regardless of circumstances
So I just go to the bench with her and sit down
At the bench (the 15 min insta-date)
I manage to come up with some stuff to talk to her with for about 3-4 minutes (quality stuff about her passion and work in optimising sales through store architecture)
Then I run out of things to say. And I just say nothing and look into the distance.
I keep my cool and she starts looking awkward and I say:
I still keep my cool and don't give too much of a fk. Cos I don't know how to number close without her name, I vaguely remember that it starts with the letter J.
I sort of create small talk from the premise that she is going to leave and start talking about the neck chain I just bought and relate it to the one she's wearing
We small talk for another 2-3 mins and then she says:
How I dealt with the fact that I forgot her name
I enter her number in my phone. And then I ask:
I call her and she gets my call. Then she stands up to leave and is about to walk away.
Before she walks away, I stand up and walk close to her and ask her out to dinner because it's a bad idea to do it over the phone.
She says sure but not today I say yeah maybe some time the following week. She says ok. Then she leaves and I just wait there.
She invites me to go check out some other shop with her and I decline and I say I'd better start heading home.
Based on my performance in that approach, my impression is that there is no way this lead is going anywhere.
What happens afterward
Then I carry on approaching in that exact same mall, and I approach another girl and then end up getting into a fun 2-3 minute conversation with her in quite an open area in the mall
After this interaction ends, I notice that J is standing, waiting, and checking her phone in the opposite end of the same open area and it's just obvious that she saw me approach the 2nd girl
I just ignore it and walk off
Texting (I follow-up and it actually goes somewhere lol)
Sun
1941 Me: Hi J, this is Y. Save my number.
Mon
1141 Me: What's your schedule like this week?
Tues
1137 Her: Hi Y. I'm available this Sunday
1514 Me: Hmm, I can't do Sunday, can u do Tues, Thurs, or Sat?
1559 Her: Dinner on Saturday should work.
2329 Me: Yes! I'm good with that. Let's meet earlier to beat crowds? I suggest (place).
Wed
1030 Her: I have plans in the afternoon so I'm more available from 5-6pm onwards.
1533 Me: Let's meet at (mall where I have my logistics) at 6?
1535 Her: Okay.
1535 Her: Do you have a dining place in mind?
2005 Me: No not really, any food you gotta avoid?
2109 Her: Let's meet in (restaurant) at (mall where I have my logistics)
Thurs
1114 Me: Yea ok, meet me there at 6
Sat (Today)
1219 Me: Hey J, are we on for dinner?
1220 Her: Yes. See you in the restaurant at 6pm
1748 Me: Will get there at 6
1755 Her: Sure. I made a reservation. See you there
1759 Her: I got seated first.
1801 Me: Okay coming in
The date
The girl
Initially I thought she really didn't look very good when I approached her... When she was in short shorts and her wide cleavage shirt
Once I get to the date location, and she even initially does not take off her mask because she said we should not due to the rule in my country that people are only allowed to take off their masks when
eating and drinking
But she is A LOT more well-dressed and she's dressed in a way that I am actually really quite comfortable with
Once she takes her mask off, she's actually quite good looking... For the readers using the 1-10 scale, she's 8
She is a very serious person. She is a Christian. She was quite intimidating.
Her heritage is mainly Chinese though her Dad and her GrandDad is Indian Thai. I didn't manage to get her to elaborate on this though
Logistics
Location (It's always the same): A cluster of three vertical air-conditioned malls that are connected to each other on the ground floor, wide and busy underground pathways, and link bridges on the upper floors. There are rooftops, quiet coffee shops, garages located across these 3 malls Seduction location: One of these 3 malls is quieter than the rest. I park my car in a very secluded parking lot in the carpark that is located at the top of this quieter mall
My date-and-pull process is: Move her around as much as possible throughout the date and try to build compliance but don't wait too long to pull. Usually there aren't many interesting places to take my dates on in the mall above which I've parked my car so the pull usually involves bringing her from a different mall into the one above which I've parked my car.
The rest of this paragraph still describes a public space: Then we'll walk to a lift lobby that can be accessed from any floor of that mall. Take the lift up to the carpark. Make quite a quiet walk to my car. I.e. past many empty parking lots because I've picked the one right at the corner of the building's architecture. I'll turn on my engine. And get her to sit in the back with me
The car itself: I've got sunshades and ways of preventing people from seeing into my car more or less 90% so the only giveaway would be some form of springing up and down of the car on its wheels which is not a problem given the parking lot is very secluded.
I may come up with some kind of backup logistic where I can lead a girl to a private hallway or stairwell. But for now, that does not exist. It's the car or nothing.
About me
I am a 21/22 year old virgin.
At the time of my posting of this field report, it has been almost 6 months since I started going out regularly to do cold approach. I've never gone out to do night game thus far since that 6 month start mark.
Mainly because nightclubs and bars are still closed/safe-distancing. So far it has purely been daygame for me
U can check out my current journal at: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ys-journal-revamped.23563/
... where I document more of my learning process and commitment
This is the 6th girl I've gone on a date with from cold approach (counting from the 1st time when I had the above logistics). I've never had a second date before. I managed to get an FR++ to the backseat of my car on my 2nd date.
Background about her that I managed to find out through what she said
She is a person who has standards for everything. She's really picky about her friends. She's really strict and really conservative. She is the eldest child and has 3 younger sisters all of whom she says she's quite close to.
She says that she cuts contact with friends who she doesn't like. In general, a very strict and convervative girl on the surface. Not sure about what is the case behind that
She said that she was raised that way. She is also a Christian. Did not get her to elaborate on her Christianity though... (this was probably a good idea)
She does NOT have any guy friends. The only friends who are guys that she knows are. Husbands of her girl friends or guy friends of her girl friends.
She's a health freak. She's very serious. Nothing I talked to her about seemed to get her significantly excited/happy/any kind of positive emotion
She does NOT at all make new friends. Her hobbies are cultivating her friendships, shopping, having "deep and philosophical conversations" with her friends (according to her)
Her behaviour during the date in general
She actually does smile. And there were periods where we were really laughing together.
At no point was she very emotionally invested in me. She would smile and laugh and agree and disagree and show emotion but she never really gave any "little puppy dog vibe"
There were no intense emotions from her. She remained impartial and neutral about things. This points to how it probably is the case that I didn't really manage to get her to talk about things that were important to her. Not too worried about this for now
The basic skeleton of the date
1. We meet sitting down at the dinner place opposite each other and just converse
2. I ask to pull her to my car and that fails but I keep composure and carry the date on by getting her to agree to walk to the rooftop of the mall with me (this is NOT a back-up seduction location )
3. We walk out of the restaurant to the lift and we take the lift up to the roof.
4. I try to get some compliance on the roof and that fails. There was an opportunity for a hard push here that I missed where this may have led her to agreeing to spend more time with me. (I belive that this is the moment of truth that I should be worrying about. Not because this compliance was necessary for me to get her to a seduction location
but because if I had gotten this compliance she may have agreed to spend time with me at a second venue)
5. I propose that we get desert/drinks both of which she declined
6. End of date
The sequence of interesting events of the date
A. Conversation at the beginning:
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. We were exchanging one-line questions and one-line matter-of fact answers for a period of a good half an hour I would say
B. Some sorts of tests:
1. Age (Probably 10 mins into the date)
I tell her I'm 25. And then she actually catches me lying when she asks me what year I'm born in and lol I didn't even prepare the lie well.
She tells me that she is 32.
I say 1993, which actually means I'm 27, then I just vaguely suggest that I don't like to tell people my actual age. Then we drop the topic.
Currently, I am just improving my overall lie only by making mistakes and realizing how I can improve my bullshitting through failing every step of the way
2. That I do pickup
So we get into some form of a conversation about how I don't like texting and I like to meet people in person because there are things about people in person that we don't understand from an online profile
I ask her what her experience is and she is slightly nervous when she qualifies to me that she's only done online dating once. This is probably the only time during the whole date when she's slightly nervous.
C. The point where the conversation starts to get better:
I realise how she is, quite like me, a control freak, and someone who is really picky about their friends and thinks about every single thing that they do
And she doesn't tolerate bad behaviour, people who don't dress well, people who can cause discomfort to others.
I would not like to go into the details of the "slightly fun" (To me at least) conversation that we had here. All that needs to be said is that I was able to show a lot more genuine interest in her in what she said
Because I realised that she is actually more similar to me than a lot of people I have met in my entire life.
It must be noted that in the more fun part of the conversation, we very philosophical and we WERE having a good time. What I feel is the problem with this is that this was not actually her investing in me even though we were talking about very deep things BECAUSE it was opinionated but IMPERSONAL
D. Another test (Can be seen as a test at least):
E. The ask for the pull (This happened after the above test where she said she's not going to meet me again)
I somehow tried to prepare my pull suggestion by asking her how she's going to head home and where she stays and through this I also told her that I drove to the mall where we were at
I sort of felt that the heat between the 2 of us is not going to get any hotter (it's not very high but at this point it was the highest) so I just say:
She smiles very cutely and knowingly (She probably knows I want to fk her) and says:
No I wouldn't like to go for a drive (Not in a condescending way but in a flirty and respecting way. Like it felt as though somehow she respected me for going for it)
F. The most critical moment of the date (On the roof)
So we left the restaurant and she paid for it and we take the lift up to the roof and it was starting to drizzle.
The roof extends from the 11th to 12th floor of the mall and at one point there is a staircase where you can walk from the 11th floor of the roof to the 12th floor of the roof
I had already gotten her to walk out of the the sheltered area to get slightly hit by the drizzle and I could tell she was uncomfortable with it and we get to the foot of this flight of steps.
I'm quite intimdated by her authoritative, serious, and hygiene/health freak personality and I see she's really uncomfortable with the drizzle we are walking under so AT THIS MOMENT I HESITATE
I fail to lead her up this flight of stairs. The thing I would like readers to take note of is that there is no good reason at all for us to go up this flight of stairs. The 12th floor roof can be accessed from the same lift that we used to get to the 11th floor of the roof.
I would like readers to know that I see this as an important moment... in fact the most important one on this date... where I fked up
Following this it's her frame that prevails because it was established that she did not want to see me again. I propose that we get dessert and that doesn't work out. I propose that we get drinks and that doesn't work out.
So we just take the exact same lift back down to the ground floor and end the date on good terms.
Lessons learnt
1. Reinforcement of the mindset that compliance is the only thing necessary for seduction
She was clearly not very attracted to me. During this date, I opened up to her quite a bit and showed her quite a bit of my personality.
Perhaps more than she showed me. But she still agreed to go to the roof with me.
She probably sees me as a really incongruent person. She's really smart. But this just reinforces how powerful compliance is.
She probably knows that I'm giving her lots of lies but I can still get her to a very interesting place to ask her to give me more compliance.
I think the biggest lesson here for me is that: NO matter how much I fk up, I just need to keep moving for the compliance confidently and there is ALWAYS a possibility that things will turn out well
2. Retaining my composure:
I am very impressed with how I managed to simply just not worry about all her tests and the fact that she probably has some VERY HARD TO BREAK internal frames which I probably did not even get anywhere near converting
Perhaps this is the greatest weapon I can add to my arsenal that I acquired from this girl: NEVER WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING
This is a big deal for me because I am usually always ridden with anxiety during pickup and dating.
3. Plain date experience:
Just me getting more comfortable with pretty women of diverse kinds... during this date.
Questions/remarks for readers
1. I would like to thank anyone if they manage to read this whole field report. A DISCLAIMER here is that I am not actually worried about deliberately training ANY SKILL AT ALL (Not even 1 skill) during this date.
I did have one goal during this date: To extend the date for as long of a period of time as possible.
The goal that I have for myself right now is just to go on as many dates as possible AND every week, just keep working on new skills from "How To Make Girls Chase" during my cold approach. Dates are honestly just a bonus
right now. Every date I go on I will do the bare minimum that is needed for the pull. I don't have the time to worry so much about what I will do on dates.
Just trying to go on more dates and get comfortable with going on dates (As of now I'm still way too anxious about text-arranged dates)
Sunday
This is probably the 10th+ approach of this outing
We are in this wide open walkway leading into a mall and I'm walking away from the entrance to the mall -while she is walking toards the mall
I let her walk past me and then turn around and do the side stop arm tap.
She stops I open indirect and say we should chat for 1-2mins
She says:
And then suddenly, she not at all trying to walk away and we start having a conversation
During this outing itself, I had bought a stainless steel chain for myself as a fashion upgrade and notice she's wearing a chain too.
We relate on that and I ask her what she does and she asks me what I do and lie about it (have told this lie well enough for it to be very good but a work in progress)
We converse for 5 minutes and she's not at all trying to say "hey I'm in a rush/I need to go somewhere" (which is what I always encounter with almost every other girl)
I say we should grab a coffee and she says sure
Becoming unsure of myself
I did not plan out my logistics and I didn't even know where I would take her and had no seduction location in mind.
As we walk into the mall, she sees some doubts in my body language and then she raises doubts about where we're going:
Her: I don't know what is going on here... If you want my number... You're not getting it
Me: (Said confidently) I just want to have a good conversation (Can't remember exactly what was said)
This assures her
I'm still unsure of myself but do a good job of keeping completely cool about being unsure of myself (I didn't like her very much so I didn't feel a lot of concern)
I decide to take her to this public bench on the 3rd floor of the mall and sit with her there. No coffee shop or anything
Forgetting her name and shit conversation
As we take escalators up and move closer to the bench, I realise that I 1. Forgot her name and 2. Am getting hit by some connection anxiety
I feel like ejecting from this interaction, I tell myself to stay the bloody course as I had ejected from an interaction the previous week and promised I would NEVER do that again regardless of circumstances
So I just go to the bench with her and sit down
At the bench (the 15 min insta-date)
I manage to come up with some stuff to talk to her with for about 3-4 minutes (quality stuff about her passion and work in optimising sales through store architecture)
Then I run out of things to say. And I just say nothing and look into the distance.
I keep my cool and she starts looking awkward and I say:
I still keep my cool and don't give too much of a fk. Cos I don't know how to number close without her name, I vaguely remember that it starts with the letter J.
I sort of create small talk from the premise that she is going to leave and start talking about the neck chain I just bought and relate it to the one she's wearing
We small talk for another 2-3 mins and then she says:
How I dealt with the fact that I forgot her name
I enter her number in my phone. And then I ask:
I time it such that when she says the first letter I also say:
And then she just spells it out. Thankfully her name did start with J.
I call her and she gets my call. Then she stands up to leave and is about to walk away.
Before she walks away, I stand up and walk close to her and ask her out to dinner because it's a bad idea to do it over the phone.
She says sure but not today I say yeah maybe some time the following week. She says ok. Then she leaves and I just wait there.
She invites me to go check out some other shop with her and I decline and I say I'd better start heading home.
Based on my performance in that approach, my impression is that there is no way this lead is going anywhere.
What happens afterward
Then I carry on approaching in that exact same mall, and I approach another girl and then end up getting into a fun 2-3 minute conversation with her in quite an open area in the mall
After this interaction ends, I notice that J is standing, waiting, and checking her phone in the opposite end of the same open area and it's just obvious that she saw me approach the 2nd girl
I just ignore it and walk off
Texting (I follow-up and it actually goes somewhere lol)
Sun
1941 Me: Hi J, this is Y. Save my number.
Mon
1141 Me: What's your schedule like this week?
Tues
1137 Her: Hi Y. I'm available this Sunday
1514 Me: Hmm, I can't do Sunday, can u do Tues, Thurs, or Sat?
1559 Her: Dinner on Saturday should work.
2329 Me: Yes! I'm good with that. Let's meet earlier to beat crowds? I suggest (place).
Wed
1030 Her: I have plans in the afternoon so I'm more available from 5-6pm onwards.
1533 Me: Let's meet at (mall where I have my logistics) at 6?
1535 Her: Okay.
1535 Her: Do you have a dining place in mind?
2005 Me: No not really, any food you gotta avoid?
2109 Her: Let's meet in (restaurant) at (mall where I have my logistics)
Thurs
1114 Me: Yea ok, meet me there at 6
Sat (Today)
1219 Me: Hey J, are we on for dinner?
1220 Her: Yes. See you in the restaurant at 6pm
1748 Me: Will get there at 6
1755 Her: Sure. I made a reservation. See you there
1759 Her: I got seated first.
1801 Me: Okay coming in
The date
The girl
Initially I thought she really didn't look very good when I approached her... When she was in short shorts and her wide cleavage shirt
Once I get to the date location, and she even initially does not take off her mask because she said we should not due to the rule in my country that people are only allowed to take off their masks when
eating and drinking
But she is A LOT more well-dressed and she's dressed in a way that I am actually really quite comfortable with
Once she takes her mask off, she's actually quite good looking... For the readers using the 1-10 scale, she's 8
She is a very serious person. She is a Christian. She was quite intimidating.
Her heritage is mainly Chinese though her Dad and her GrandDad is Indian Thai. I didn't manage to get her to elaborate on this though
Logistics
Location (It's always the same): A cluster of three vertical air-conditioned malls that are connected to each other on the ground floor, wide and busy underground pathways, and link bridges on the upper floors. There are rooftops, quiet coffee shops, garages located across these 3 malls Seduction location: One of these 3 malls is quieter than the rest. I park my car in a very secluded parking lot in the carpark that is located at the top of this quieter mall
My date-and-pull process is: Move her around as much as possible throughout the date and try to build compliance but don't wait too long to pull. Usually there aren't many interesting places to take my dates on in the mall above which I've parked my car so the pull usually involves bringing her from a different mall into the one above which I've parked my car.
The rest of this paragraph still describes a public space: Then we'll walk to a lift lobby that can be accessed from any floor of that mall. Take the lift up to the carpark. Make quite a quiet walk to my car. I.e. past many empty parking lots because I've picked the one right at the corner of the building's architecture. I'll turn on my engine. And get her to sit in the back with me
The car itself: I've got sunshades and ways of preventing people from seeing into my car more or less 90% so the only giveaway would be some form of springing up and down of the car on its wheels which is not a problem given the parking lot is very secluded.
I may come up with some kind of backup logistic where I can lead a girl to a private hallway or stairwell. But for now, that does not exist. It's the car or nothing.
About me
I am a 21/22 year old virgin.
At the time of my posting of this field report, it has been almost 6 months since I started going out regularly to do cold approach. I've never gone out to do night game thus far since that 6 month start mark.
Mainly because nightclubs and bars are still closed/safe-distancing. So far it has purely been daygame for me
U can check out my current journal at: https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/ys-journal-revamped.23563/
... where I document more of my learning process and commitment
This is the 6th girl I've gone on a date with from cold approach (counting from the 1st time when I had the above logistics). I've never had a second date before. I managed to get an FR++ to the backseat of my car on my 2nd date.
Background about her that I managed to find out through what she said
She is a person who has standards for everything. She's really picky about her friends. She's really strict and really conservative. She is the eldest child and has 3 younger sisters all of whom she says she's quite close to.
She says that she cuts contact with friends who she doesn't like. In general, a very strict and convervative girl on the surface. Not sure about what is the case behind that
She said that she was raised that way. She is also a Christian. Did not get her to elaborate on her Christianity though... (this was probably a good idea)
She does NOT have any guy friends. The only friends who are guys that she knows are. Husbands of her girl friends or guy friends of her girl friends.
She's a health freak. She's very serious. Nothing I talked to her about seemed to get her significantly excited/happy/any kind of positive emotion
She does NOT at all make new friends. Her hobbies are cultivating her friendships, shopping, having "deep and philosophical conversations" with her friends (according to her)
Her behaviour during the date in general
She actually does smile. And there were periods where we were really laughing together.
At no point was she very emotionally invested in me. She would smile and laugh and agree and disagree and show emotion but she never really gave any "little puppy dog vibe"
There were no intense emotions from her. She remained impartial and neutral about things. This points to how it probably is the case that I didn't really manage to get her to talk about things that were important to her. Not too worried about this for now
The basic skeleton of the date
1. We meet sitting down at the dinner place opposite each other and just converse
2. I ask to pull her to my car and that fails but I keep composure and carry the date on by getting her to agree to walk to the rooftop of the mall with me (this is NOT a back-up seduction location )
3. We walk out of the restaurant to the lift and we take the lift up to the roof.
4. I try to get some compliance on the roof and that fails. There was an opportunity for a hard push here that I missed where this may have led her to agreeing to spend more time with me. (I belive that this is the moment of truth that I should be worrying about. Not because this compliance was necessary for me to get her to a seduction location
but because if I had gotten this compliance she may have agreed to spend time with me at a second venue)
5. I propose that we get desert/drinks both of which she declined
6. End of date
The sequence of interesting events of the date
A. Conversation at the beginning:
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. We were exchanging one-line questions and one-line matter-of fact answers for a period of a good half an hour I would say
B. Some sorts of tests:
1. Age (Probably 10 mins into the date)
She says she knew about the fact that I was way younger than her through my body language. I get slightly fazed by this but quite unfazed compared to how nervous I normally get when I am faced with this.
I tell her I'm 25. And then she actually catches me lying when she asks me what year I'm born in and lol I didn't even prepare the lie well.
She tells me that she is 32.
I say 1993, which actually means I'm 27, then I just vaguely suggest that I don't like to tell people my actual age. Then we drop the topic.
Currently, I am just improving my overall lie only by making mistakes and realizing how I can improve my bullshitting through failing every step of the way
2. That I do pickup
So we get into some form of a conversation about how I don't like texting and I like to meet people in person because there are things about people in person that we don't understand from an online profile
I ask her what her experience is and she is slightly nervous when she qualifies to me that she's only done online dating once. This is probably the only time during the whole date when she's slightly nervous.
C. The point where the conversation starts to get better:
I realise how she is, quite like me, a control freak, and someone who is really picky about their friends and thinks about every single thing that they do
And she doesn't tolerate bad behaviour, people who don't dress well, people who can cause discomfort to others.
I would not like to go into the details of the "slightly fun" (To me at least) conversation that we had here. All that needs to be said is that I was able to show a lot more genuine interest in her in what she said
Because I realised that she is actually more similar to me than a lot of people I have met in my entire life.
It must be noted that in the more fun part of the conversation, we very philosophical and we WERE having a good time. What I feel is the problem with this is that this was not actually her investing in me even though we were talking about very deep things BECAUSE it was opinionated but IMPERSONAL
D. Another test (Can be seen as a test at least):
She explains and I just listen and remain unfazed
E. The ask for the pull (This happened after the above test where she said she's not going to meet me again)
I somehow tried to prepare my pull suggestion by asking her how she's going to head home and where she stays and through this I also told her that I drove to the mall where we were at
I sort of felt that the heat between the 2 of us is not going to get any hotter (it's not very high but at this point it was the highest) so I just say:
Her response
She smiles very cutely and knowingly (She probably knows I want to fk her) and says:
No I wouldn't like to go for a drive (Not in a condescending way but in a flirty and respecting way. Like it felt as though somehow she respected me for going for it)
F. The most critical moment of the date (On the roof)
So we left the restaurant and she paid for it and we take the lift up to the roof and it was starting to drizzle.
The roof extends from the 11th to 12th floor of the mall and at one point there is a staircase where you can walk from the 11th floor of the roof to the 12th floor of the roof
I had already gotten her to walk out of the the sheltered area to get slightly hit by the drizzle and I could tell she was uncomfortable with it and we get to the foot of this flight of steps.
I'm quite intimdated by her authoritative, serious, and hygiene/health freak personality and I see she's really uncomfortable with the drizzle we are walking under so AT THIS MOMENT I HESITATE
I fail to lead her up this flight of stairs. The thing I would like readers to take note of is that there is no good reason at all for us to go up this flight of stairs. The 12th floor roof can be accessed from the same lift that we used to get to the 11th floor of the roof.
I would like readers to know that I see this as an important moment... in fact the most important one on this date... where I fked up
Following this it's her frame that prevails because it was established that she did not want to see me again. I propose that we get dessert and that doesn't work out. I propose that we get drinks and that doesn't work out.
So we just take the exact same lift back down to the ground floor and end the date on good terms.
Lessons learnt
1. Reinforcement of the mindset that compliance is the only thing necessary for seduction
She was clearly not very attracted to me. During this date, I opened up to her quite a bit and showed her quite a bit of my personality.
Perhaps more than she showed me. But she still agreed to go to the roof with me.
She probably sees me as a really incongruent person. She's really smart. But this just reinforces how powerful compliance is.
She probably knows that I'm giving her lots of lies but I can still get her to a very interesting place to ask her to give me more compliance.
I think the biggest lesson here for me is that: NO matter how much I fk up, I just need to keep moving for the compliance confidently and there is ALWAYS a possibility that things will turn out well
2. Retaining my composure:
I am very impressed with how I managed to simply just not worry about all her tests and the fact that she probably has some VERY HARD TO BREAK internal frames which I probably did not even get anywhere near converting
Perhaps this is the greatest weapon I can add to my arsenal that I acquired from this girl: NEVER WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING
This is a big deal for me because I am usually always ridden with anxiety during pickup and dating.
3. Plain date experience:
Just me getting more comfortable with pretty women of diverse kinds... during this date.
Questions/remarks for readers
1. I would like to thank anyone if they manage to read this whole field report. A DISCLAIMER here is that I am not actually worried about deliberately training ANY SKILL AT ALL (Not even 1 skill) during this date.
I did have one goal during this date: To extend the date for as long of a period of time as possible.
The goal that I have for myself right now is just to go on as many dates as possible AND every week, just keep working on new skills from "How To Make Girls Chase" during my cold approach. Dates are honestly just a bonus
right now. Every date I go on I will do the bare minimum that is needed for the pull. I don't have the time to worry so much about what I will do on dates.
Just trying to go on more dates and get comfortable with going on dates (As of now I'm still way too anxious about text-arranged dates)
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