You're already cooler than 99% of guys

[DoWhatWorks]

TLDR: If you're on this site, self-improvement focused and avoid doing stupid things around girls you'll stand out against 99% of guys.

You likely don't give yourself enough credit. Remember there are plenty of cool/attractive girls you can get by putting in numbers and this recent looks obsession/maxxing is an insecurity marketing tactic which if I'm honest I occasionally fall victim too. Goodlooking loser had a great post on this here back in the day.

Long version:

I've recently come back from a fun drama-free weekend trip to Albania with a FB from this lay (cool to write things up and reference back - I would never guess that this girl would still be in the picture nearly 2 years later).

This cooler than 99% of guys thought came to my head while she was talking about guys/dating in general I heard some horror stories that even the newest/inexperienced guys here would never do... Things like:

• Guys at clubs asking her for a hug by saying "where's my hug at?" (which I genuinely thought kids stopped doing at like 14 if they ever did at all)
• Rich older men DM'ing her and asking for her address to post Chanel bags 1-2 messages in just because she won a beauty pageant
• Guys being fb's then demoted to friend-zone and crying while they're hanging out & saying "why don't you like me anymore???"

Bare in mind this is all for a girl who's literally just a waiter in mid-tier city in the UK *facepalm*

Wild stuff.

It made me realise that if you *don't* make beyond-autistic mistakes, look acceptable and talk to a high volume of girls you're literally far better off than most guys out there regardless of your experience level.

Also noticing when talking to top tier friends, a lot of these guys actually struggle with girls hooking on them veryyyyyyyyy quickly, one guy I know had a girl claim to be in love with him before they even had sex too. It's nuts.

I don't consider myself to be particularly good at this stuff or special in any way but my dating life is ridiculously good for someone who invests so little in it... Don't say it to brag but highlight how an amazing love-life is available for any man willing to work on it and you'll get results sooner than you think because your competition is abhorrently bad.

Onwards & Upwards x

 

[Chad Tyrone]

Basically anyone who sees women as the prize ...that he has to lick their asses wet to get them is a smelly loser lol.

Seen some brag of getting a hug from a hottie...had one say he literally cummed from a hug .


So yeah standing out from the masses is all about having a prize mentality and approaching enough chicks to up your odds.I believe operating from the meta-frame is important in that some guys do brag of having options just by having lots of nos in their phone or knowing lots of girls yet simp at all of them chicks lol."The shoot your shot" kind who hardly know what they are doing


It's funny that we are all living in the same world but living far different realities from others at the same time lol.It's hard for game-unaware guys to believe it.Who cares if they don't?

Anyways, awesome post bro.


Chad Tyrone

 

[Skills]

Is no cooler the word is just more knowledge on social dynamics and probably more calibrated I made this point also couple of years ago:

Socializing - Guys in general are shit in game and uncalibrated, my honest observations....

Guys as you know i have been trying to experiment in pulling a 3 some from cold approach, as i go out a lot of the girls get a bit intimidated when i know i have a girl with me, so i told the main go dance and flirt with other dudes, so they don't Autor eject.... I have also seen form women...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[Chase]

Great post, @DoWhatWorks.

It is absolutely true.

You talk to girls about their exes, and even among the really beautiful girls you date, pretty much all these guys are really ordinary. It's very rare for a girl to have dated multiple actually cool dudes. Most girls will only ever date one cool guy in their lives (i.e., you). The girls who date cool guy after cool guy are quite rare, and usually super social/outgoing so they can attract a lot of guys and filter through them.

Then you talk to girls about the guys who hit on them and these are even worse.

I'll add some examples to what you shared, DWW:

• Girl took a long-distance train to university to start school. She arrived in the city late at night before the school opened and needed a hotel room for the night. A young guy who looked like a famous actor had been on the train with her. She thought he was really cute. He offered to split a hotel room with her to save money and she agreed. In the room, after she got into bed, he got into bed with her and started feeling her up, grabbing her breasts through her clothes. She was really young and it was her first sexual experience... she wasn't sure if she should let it continue or not. The guy ended up ejaculating in his pants, then rolled over and fell asleep. Girl was a bit disappointed.
  
  
• Girl got set up on a date by mutual friends with a guy who had a good job. Guy shows up for the date at a movie theater and sits next to her, putting his arm around her. Except... there's a smell. A really terrible smell. She sits through this whole movie trying not to vomit over this guy's stink. The guy seems to be oblivious to it. He spends a few weeks texting her to try to get a second date and seems mystified she doesn't want to see him again.
  
  
• Girl met a doctor randomly on the street. He invited her to an expensive restaurant for dinner. As they ate, he gave her a sexy look and asked her if she'd been chasing boys over the weekend. Then started making more innuendo-like jokes. Bad attempt to chase frame? He had the timing and vibe all wrong. Girl was creeped out and didn't see him again.
  
  
• Girl was looking to make some extra money and found a classified ad from a guy looking for models. He came over and took pictures of her face, then told her he had a nose fetish. Showed her pictures on his phone and he had a bunch of naked pictures of other women. Asked her to take her clothes off for more pictures. She told him to leave.
  
  
• Girl met a guy in study hall in college. He helped her out in her studies. They ended up dating. She briefly moved to his city after college, then realized this guy was actually totally lame and the only reason she'd started dating him was because he'd just been hanging around her in school. He desperately tried to get her to stay, offering her marriage, but she just saw no future with him whatsoever and broke up.
  
  
• Girl got a crush on this guy and chased him for almost a year. Guy finally decided to date the girl. He ended up premature ejaculating every time they tried to have sex and never got his penis fully into her before cumming. Got sick a few times during their first month dating. Girl said he was super thin. The whole experience of him cumming too quick and apologizing and then doing it again, plus being sick all the time, really turned her off. Her year-long infatuation was done in a month and she told him it wasn't working out and broke up. He spent the next two years chasing after her, trying to get her back, trying to move to the city she lived in... she told him no, and that if he did she would refuse to see him. One year after they broke up, when she was still single, he visited her city and she let him try to have sex with her again. He premature ejaculated immediately again. Went back to his own city in defeat.

These are all stories I have heard directly from women about their experiences with men.

Recently I got sucked into the Reddit rabbit hole again and read a bunch of things on there. The stuff men are doing and that women are having happen with these guys is outright appalling. We're talking stuff like:

• Guys going on first dates with women and proposing marriage/children. Confused why girls won't give them a second date.
  
  
• Guys who hook up with girls, become obsessed, and get jealous and controlling, then start stalking... after sleeping with the girl just a handful of times.
  
  
• Guys who take women on a series of fancy, adventurous dates, but never make a move, and then either get really upset when the girl does not put out, or (the other weird ones) the girl strongly hints at wanting sex or tries to make it happen herself but the guy just doesn't want sex at all.
  
  
• Guys who get on dates then go on political rants about all kinds of issues they hate, often unprompted by the woman, or because the woman made some small remark about some political thing she doesn't even care about that much.

The Reddit boards Let's Not Meet and Creepy Encounters are filled with totally freaky stories about dudes stalking around trying to get glimpses of women or feel them up or staring into their windows and crap. I read one about a dude hanging out in a Port-a-Potty septic tank all day so he could look up as women sat on the toilet seat and peed/pooped down into the tank.

There are so many exceptionally weird, creepy, lame, weak, loser guys out there... if you have even an ounce of self-improvement mentality and have even just started on the self-improvement journey, you're already way better than most of the competition, and it just gets better from there.

I will also say... I have met and talked to a LOT of guys from the Girls Chase community. Our audience is FILLED with guys who are a lot, lot cooler than the average guy. Back when I was starting out and I'd go to local pickup artist lair meetings, there'd be a bunch of weird guys at these, so it kind of put it in my head that "guys studying PUA are kinda weird", but I have met so many really cool dudes through GC that I can say: if you are working on your fundamentals and game, you're gonna be a cool dude.

Chase

 

[Gladiator]

Great post, @DoWhatWorks.

It is absolutely true.

You talk to girls about their exes, and even among the really beautiful girls you date, pretty much all these guys are really ordinary. It's very rare for a girl to have dated multiple actually cool dudes. Most girls will only ever date one cool guy in their lives (i.e., you). The girls who date cool guy after cool guy are quite rare, and usually super social/outgoing so they can attract a lot of guys and filter through them.

Then you talk to girls about the guys who hit on them and these are even worse.

I'll add some examples to what you shared, DWW:

• Girl took a long-distance train to university to start school. She arrived in the city late at night before the school opened and needed a hotel room for the night. A young guy who looked like a famous actor had been on the train with her. She thought he was really cute. He offered to split a hotel room with her to save money and she agreed. In the room, after she got into bed, he got into bed with her and started feeling her up, grabbing her breasts through her clothes. She was really young and it was her first sexual experience... she wasn't sure if she should let it continue or not. The guy ended up ejaculating in his pants, then rolled over and fell asleep. Girl was a bit disappointed.
  
  
• Girl got set up on a date by mutual friends with a guy who had a good job. Guy shows up for the date at a movie theater and sits next to her, putting his arm around her. Except... there's a smell. A really terrible smell. She sits through this whole movie trying not to vomit over this guy's stink. The guy seems to be oblivious to it. He spends a few weeks texting her to try to get a second date and seems mystified she doesn't want to see him again.
  
  
• Girl met a doctor randomly on the street. He invited her to an expensive restaurant for dinner. As they ate, he gave her a sexy look and asked her if she'd been chasing boys over the weekend. Then started making more innuendo-like jokes. Bad attempt to chase frame? He had the timing and vibe all wrong. Girl was creeped out and didn't see him again.
  
  
• Girl was looking to make some extra money and found a classified ad from a guy looking for models. He came over and took pictures of her face, then told her he had a nose fetish. Showed her pictures on his phone and he had a bunch of naked pictures of other women. Asked her to take her clothes off for more pictures. She told him to leave.
  
  
• Girl met a guy in study hall in college. He helped her out in her studies. They ended up dating. She briefly moved to his city after college, then realized this guy was actually totally lame and the only reason she'd started dating him was because he'd just been hanging around her in school. He desperately tried to get her to stay, offering her marriage, but she just saw no future with him whatsoever and broke up.
  
  
• Girl got a crush on this guy and chased him for almost a year. Guy finally decided to date the girl. He ended up premature ejaculating every time they tried to have sex and never got his penis fully into her before cumming. Got sick a few times during their first month dating. Girl said he was super thin. The whole experience of him cumming too quick and apologizing and then doing it again, plus being sick all the time, really turned her off. Her year-long infatuation was done in a month and she told him it wasn't working out and broke up. He spent the next two years chasing after her, trying to get her back, trying to move to the city she lived in... she told him no, and that if he did she would refuse to see him. One year after they broke up, when she was still single, he visited her city and she let him try to have sex with her again. He premature ejaculated immediately again. Went back to his own city in defeat.

These are all stories I have heard directly from women about their experiences with men.

Recently I got sucked into the Reddit rabbit hole again and read a bunch of things on there. The stuff men are doing and that women are having happen with these guys is outright appalling. We're talking stuff like:

• Guys going on first dates with women and proposing marriage/children. Confused why girls won't give them a second date.
  
  
• Guys who hook up with girls, become obsessed, and get jealous and controlling, then start stalking... after sleeping with the girl just a handful of times.
  
  
• Guys who take women on a series of fancy, adventurous dates, but never make a move, and then either get really upset when the girl does not put out, or (the other weird ones) the girl strongly hints at wanting sex or tries to make it happen herself but the guy just doesn't want sex at all.
  
  
• Guys who get on dates then go on political rants about all kinds of issues they hate, often unprompted by the woman, or because the woman made some small remark about some political thing she doesn't even care about that much.

The Reddit boards Let's Not Meet and Creepy Encounters are filled with totally freaky stories about dudes stalking around trying to get glimpses of women or feel them up or staring into their windows and crap. I read one about a dude hanging out in a Port-a-Potty septic tank all day so he could look up as women sat on the toilet seat and peed/pooped down into the tank.

There are so many exceptionally weird, creepy, lame, weak, loser guys out there... if you have even an ounce of self-improvement mentality and have even just started on the self-improvement journey, you're already way better than most of the competition, and it just gets better from there.

I will also say... I have met and talked to a LOT of guys from the Girls Chase community. Our audience is FILLED with guys who are a lot, lot cooler than the average guy. Back when I was starting out and I'd go to local pickup artist lair meetings, there'd be a bunch of weird guys at these, so it kind of put it in my head that "guys studying PUA are kinda weird", but I have met so many really cool dudes through GC that I can say: if you are working on your fundamentals and game, you're gonna be a cool dude.

Chase

It was fun reading this.. I guess we should compile all the anecdotes in this thread..

Anyway, one more to the list that I heard only last weekend:

• Guy invites his colleague for a drink and she said she's saving up and don't want to spend a lot. So he offers to pay for her drink. After they leave the bar, guy abruptly jumps on her holding her head forcing her to kiss. She freaks out and he starts pleading for a kiss and offers to be her boyfriend.
  When she rejects his offer, he gets pissed off and asks her to pay back the money he paid for her beer... Ya just one beer.. what's hilarious is, she refuses to pay since he had agreed to pay before they went. So, he starts yelling in the street saying he lost money for "nothing". Then starts sending her lots of texts convincing her to be his girlfriend I honestly felt sorry for that guy when I heard this.. for being clueless.. but she was so animated in describing this that I couldn't help LMAO

 

[Adventurer]

Same experience here. I'm always asking my lovers (or sometimes just dates) about past experiences, and even cool, beautiful girls have been dating weird dudes. It gets even worse for men who try hit on them, for reference there are a lot of people where I live who consider catcalling a viable strategy because "you never know, 1 in 100 may accept" (some guy legitimately told me that)

Also, even among pick up artists i.e. guys I see doing cold approaches or hitting on girls in activity groups, they are far from being James Bond. Most of them either have terrible fundamentals, terrible game or both

Edit : Even the regular subreddit for dating advice is full of those terrible stories, but there you have people in the comments giving bad advice to the OP on how to salvage the situation, which is really sad

 

[HoofHearted]

I can appreciate the vibe and well-written nature of this post. Its encouraging nature alone makes it valuable.

Having said that, going a level deeper, I don't actually agree with the concept as presented.

None of us are any better (externally) solely for consuming material.

And competition is stiff, never kid yourself about that. There are market forces at play. Yes, most men lack emotional competence with women. Only a relatively smaller percentage of men have the being/state of development to engage. But key point: there are so many men, that that smaller percentage of men is still a lot of people. And because they're competent, they're the most and very highly active.

You cannot 'chill.' You must acquire a skillset and deliver. There are fewer parking spots than there are cars, and only the most skilled drivers-- the best, most driven and *expedient* drivers, get to park. Just reading about parking won't help you. You gotta get to the spot without fucking shit up or running anybody over. Park your damn car! If you don't get on it (her), somebody else will. And they all circlin'...

 

[King Indra]

...Guys at clubs asking her for a hug by saying "where's my hug at?" (which I genuinely thought kids stopped doing at like 14 if they ever did at all)

I've been hearing women I know complain about this non-stop over the last few months. We're talking, word-for-word, "where is my hug?"

I have to say, that is some real adolescent nonsense, and I entirely agree. It was gross and socially abhorrent in high school and I recognized it a such, even then (and I was a real dork in high school).

I wonder why it's suddenly having a moment again. I mean, I'm not going to encourage my competition to stop acting like that, don't get me wrong. It just creates an even wider window for me to swoop in and take over when they get blown out.

 

[Dash of Englishness]

TLDR: If you're on this site, self-improvement focused and avoid doing stupid things around girls you'll stand out against 99% of guys.

You likely don't give yourself enough credit.

Couldn't disagree with you more. It takes a lot more than not doing stupid things around girls, and being on a PUA site (that you're only on because you've struggled getting girls) to bed girls. You still (for the most part) need to do something impressive in her presence in order for her to see you as being worthy. Not doing stupid things doesn't make you worthy.