163 girls fucked and still think of your 3 months relationship ?

[nolimits]

Hey Guys,

so I’m not going to throw in all of the details of this very short relationship I’ve just come out of, but I will give hopefully enough for you to give your opinion on the matter.

before summer I went out with a girl who was 40 and was not officially divorced from her marriage yet.

I am 30 years old, have been in at least 4 long term relationships and have fucked at least 160 girls. This isn’t to brag but to give you guys an idea that I am pretty damn good with girls.

of course all of my lays come from cold approach and not from tinder or whatever.

Anyway I hanged out a month or two with this chick and decided to go on a long vacation with her this summer and after a lot of time spent together, where I fucked her very well, we had an argument and the relationship ended.

she did not end it by explaining to me the reasons why - she just went up and left from our meeting and then sent me a text where she sais in a very cold way that I would not be finding love with her, good luck with everything.

(Of course this girl wasn’t just crazy - she was hot and sexy and pretty fun to talk with. )

After she sent me the breakup text I did not even reply and told myself I could not trust her anymore. Went of course cold turkey on her.

But then the other day - after a month we stopped hanging out together - she texted me something like ‘ what do you say we start seeing each other again just to fuck ? men are so disappointing ‘

Apart from the stupid message and the fact that at least that’s me winning by receiving the text, I still have to admit I am tempted to see
Her again !

Now I did not want to build an endless relationship with her - but simply to spend 1 or 2 years with an older woman who did not want kids and who ( at least so I thought ) was faithful.

The reason I am tempted to call her again is that I have fucked 15 girls in the next 40 days after we broke up and I still kind of think of her.

what if I seeing her again was the thing I needed to go through ?

if I call her and meet her ( no text whatsoever ) I can then ask her ‘ look you texted me a bunch of times… I liked you and all.. why did you disappear from your life out of curiosity ? And especially, are you going to say you’re sorry ?

and if she doesn’t say she’s sorry I’ll be so disgusted it will be ever more easy to move on.

what the fuck is absolute abundance built for I’d it does not help in these situations ?

Of course I still hit the streets and have the goal of fucking 5 girls a week but it does fucking bother me that I still somewhat think of her and wonder wether I should go through the act of seeing her again or not.

thanks guys to all of you who took the time to read and answer.

 

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[DoWhatWorks]

@nolimits I’m going to be blunt to help not be rude. Should help you out

Anyway I hanged out a month or two with this chick and decided to go on a long vacation

Way too early. Should be 6 months at least

After she sent me the breakup text I did not even reply and told myself I could not trust her anymore. Went of course cold turkey on her.

Excellent frame - this is why she came back

look you texted me a bunch of times… I liked you and all.. why did you disappear from your life out of curiosity ? And especially, are you going to say you’re sorry ?

Don’t do this - it will blow up again. If you want the real truth, meet her, fuck her well then ask the questions in a casual non-judgmental way.

IE curious what made you pop back up? *smirk*

My prediction: dating isn’t fun for a single 40 year old female & you’re a good catch for her

Also she doesn’t owe you an apology lol. She’s known you 3 months & she didn’t ghost as she text you 1st. That’s your emotions talking

I still somewhat think of her

That’s normal man you like her but your emotions are getting carried away…

Of course this girl wasn’t just crazy

Respectfully you only know her for 3 months. Anyone can act normal for that long.

Now I did not want to build an endless relationship with her - but simply to spend 1 or 2 years with an older woman who did not want kids and who ( at least so I thought ) was faithful.

Vibe I get is you do a lot of ONS which is cool but if you want a relationship from what I’ve seen

“cream of the crop” is the best solution by far.

Basically means you run a rotation of girls (which you shouldn’t struggle to do with how many girls you sleep with) then you let the best girl *slowly* float up after she’s been good over a long time.

girl who was 40 and was not officially divorced from her marriage yet.

Read the room man she just wants to have sex / fun after probably years of shit missionary.

Last thing she wants is a relationship so at best you have to ease her in so it comes from a frame of “just wanted to have fun but met this really cool guy & I found myself changing my mind”

Sounds like you want a relationship more than her which is the opposite of how it should be

 

[nolimits]

Yeah - great analysis.

 

[nolimits]

I remember when she gave me one sided monogamy I had a tough time negotiating for it.

she wanted freedom and I wanted it too : just am not a fan of girls who take other dicks while also getting mine.

So maybe seeing her again with no bitterness but simple curiosity, is what will allow me to move on more easily.


Will have to pay attention

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Yeah - great analysis.

Happy to help man

I remember when she gave me one sided monogamy I had a tough time negotiating for it.

I’m sure you know this but for the benefit of people lurking - she didn’t like you enough / it was too early for you to set up one way.

This should come from a place of her compromising as she wants to be with you so much that she’ll turn a blind eye rather tuansomething you enforce.

just am not a fan of girls who take other dicks while also getting mine.

In 2022 you’ll have to get used to it lol. Assume she is & be pleasantly surprised if she’s not.

I also highly doubt that “1 way” is as 1 way as you think too…

So maybe seeing her again with no bitterness but simple curiosity, is what will allow me to move on more easily

I think this would be good for you. Accept the girl for who she is… I say this as someone who’s wrongly projected onto girls in the past.

Will have to pay attention

This is everything. Her actions and investment in you tell you all you need to know.

 

[nolimits]

In 2022 you’ll have to get used to it lol. Assume she is & be pleasantly surprised if she’s not.

I also highly doubt that “1 way” is as 1 way as you think too…

That’s interesting.

i mean I’m definetly not naive but have always thought that most women don’t lie about being one sided monogamous if you ask them.

You think that’s extremely unlikely? Not talking with this girl specifically, but in general ?

cause if that’s the case what’s the point of ever getting somewhat attached ?

I’m sure you know this but for the benefit of people lurking - she didn’t like you enough / it was too early for you to set up one way.

Definetly too early. She just got out of a 15 years marriage but I was like ‘ if you come on a vacation with me you gotta be fucking monogamous or else don’t come ‘ and I had no problem with she not coming.
From that frame she agreed to the one sided thing but maybe she was bluffing - hard to tell.

She for sure enjoyed my dick if I mesure that with orgasms,

 

[HoofHearted]

Well, you have a tonnnnnn more experience than i do. I guess my first question is can you teach me to bang 15 chicks in 40 days? And how to stay hydrated in doing so

I can't really give good analysis about this situation itself. But i did end up with 2 questions

Why are you a) so fixated on one woman b) that's 10 years older than you??

None of us are immune to throwing good money after bad, or getting in too deep with one chick with whom you shouldn't. it just means you've sunk too much emotional currency in, and now it hurts to cut her free

Do i need to tell you that this a bad deal for you? You're a young guy, about to enter a prime, who has fucked more women than i think i ever will, i physically cannot hold that much fluid i bloat, and you're wasting your very valuable time and energy on a woman who has long since declined from her peak years.

Shes 40. Maybe youre into that, sorry if judging and no disrespect. But i say this in case youre the poor soul is NOT into that so mucb as CAUGHT UP in that.

40 year old woman: "it's over, i'm leaving"
Me: "k, bye mom"

 

[TomInHo]

This is an interesting one. @DoWhatWorks already did an amazing analysis but I'll add my 2c

nolimits said:
Anyway I hanged out a month or two with this chick and decided to go on a long vacation with her this summer and after a lot of time spent together, where I fucked her very well, we had an argument and the relationship ended.

Why are you going on long vacations with a girl that hasn't earned it? Bro she just got out of a long term relationship and you're doing relationshipy stuff with a girl that is in fun mode.

Relax on all that mess and focus on keeping things chill, until she is begging for more investment and even then you should give her some SLOWLY

nolimits said:
she did not end it by explaining to me the reasons why - she just went up and left from our meeting and then sent me a text where she sais in a very cold way that I would not be finding love with her, good luck with everything.

She doesn't owe you shit

The reason why she dumped you was because you were getting needy and were trying to trap her. Remember she is in Fun mode and is not going to switch up for just any dude

In my opinion you should not be looking for anything serious with any woman until she is at least 1 year out of a serious breakup. Her emotions are way too raw for any of that BS

nolimits said:
(Of course this girl wasn’t just crazy - she was hot and sexy and pretty fun to talk with. )

After she sent me the breakup text I did not even reply and told myself I could not trust her anymore. Went of course cold turkey on her

OMG

Trust her for what? She's not your girlfriend G

nolimits said:
But then the other day - after a month we stopped hanging out together - she texted me something like ‘ what do you say we start seeing each other again just to fuck ? men are so disappointing ‘

See.... She's in fun mode

So act accordingly

nolimits said:
Apart from the stupid message and the fact that at least that’s me winning by receiving the text, I still have to admit I am tempted to see
Her again !

Now I did not want to build an endless relationship with her - but simply to spend 1 or 2 years with an older woman who did not want kids and who ( at least so I thought ) was faithful.

You're killing me man

You've only been seeing this woman for one to two months and your already thinking about a relationship and possibly marriage? You're being very emotional right now

Never make long term decisions over short term feelings

nolimits said:
The reason I am tempted to call her again is that I have fucked 15 girls in the next 40 days after we broke up and I still kind of think of her.

what if I seeing her again was the thing I needed to go through ?

You like her because you have been over investing. You are falling victim to the sunk cost fallacy. Your emotions are not accurate to who she really is

if I call her and meet her ( no text whatsoever ) I can then ask her ‘ look you texted me a bunch of times… I liked you and all.. why did you disappear from your life out of curiosity ? And especially, are you going to say you’re sorry ?

She doesn't owe you nothing. Just take the pussy and freaking relax man

That’s interesting.

i mean I’m definetly not naive but have always thought that most women don’t lie about being one sided monogamous if you ask them.

Lol... You're joking right. Women don't lie?

Come on man, think about how you've been acting. This girl obviously likes fucking you but also wants to sample some other sausage. She can tell that you're getting needy and possessive so why wouldn't she lie to you about things being one-sided.

It's funny because now she is acting like the player while you are one of the men in her harem. She's trying to have her cake and eat it too

You think that’s extremely unlikely? Not talking with this girl specifically, but in general ?

cause if that’s the case what’s the point of ever getting somewhat attached ?

Most women will lie to you, especially when you present yourself like you have been recently

Definetly too early. She just got out of a 15 years marriage but I was like ‘ if you come on a vacation with me you gotta be fucking monogamous or else don’t come ‘ and I had no problem with she not coming.

No offense bro. But you're acting like a woman with all these ultimatums. I have fucked many women that have dealt with men like you.

The guy starts getting needy and invests a lot in the relationship. He thinks he is being a man by bossing his woman around while she secretly sneaks off to fuck me with almost no investment on my end

You keep trying harder to win her over and ironically she chases guys like me that only offer orgasms, fun and also the opportunity for her to work and chase for the relationship

From that frame she agreed to the one sided thing but maybe she was bluffing - hard to tell.

She for sure enjoyed my dick if I measure that with orgasms,

She liked the sex and probably the extra stuff too which is why she is coming back. But bro you have to change your frame if you want this to work

1. Slow down on all the relationship stuff. I know you like her but the relationship needs to be her idea not yours

2. Dial back your investment. The more you invest the deeper you will get attached. You need to make sure she is worth it by watching her actions and letting her invest more into you so that she can get attached

3. Be patient. Have fun with this girl and let her come to you. It might even take up to a year until she is fully invested and tired of sampling other salami. There is no rush

4. Keep dating other girls. I didn't say ONS but actually date some girls. She is doing the same anyways so you want to mirror her actions. And honestly if you keep dating you'll probably find someone that is better than her when she is ready for a relationship

5. Forget about one way monogamy. IMO that is a guy fantasy that really needs to die. If she is loyal to you.. great, if she wants to sample other cocks... great. What matters more is how she is treating you within the relationship and not what she does outside of it. And it shouldn't matter because you're fucking other girls anyways

 

[Beam]

my first question is can you teach me to bang 15 chicks in 40 days?

Curious about this too, lol

 

[Beck Bass]

If you want the real truth, meet her, fuck her well then ask the questions in a casual non-judgmental way.

Yeah, this.
She likely was getting back with her husband but then things went south with him again... That's my best bet.

Just go for it and fuck the shit out of her @nolimits

Curious about this too, lol

Yeah, those numbers are a bit nuts hehe

 

[nolimits]

Curious about this too, lol

Happy to oblige. I mean if you guys are sarcastic and think I’m somewhat exaggerating I actually am not at all.

i never set foot in a nightclub or used tinder either. all of my lays comefrom street approaches and let me tell you - the quality of the women is often there.

not all the time, but I’d say most of the time.

i think the reason I still think of this chick from time to time is that I never replaced the relationship, if so you want to call it. I banged quite a bit of women after and never hold on any of them.

so since this was the only one i decided to keep - not necessarily because she was better but because at the time I kind of wanted that ( was a bit tired of gaming ) - she is also the only girl I had a relationship with recently.

i guess to replace the feeling of a relationship you need another relationship and not simply fucking new girls.

I think I’ll see 3-4 girls regularly for a month or two, meanwhile keep going out.

 

[nolimits]

She can tell that you're getting needy and possessive so why wouldn't she lie to you about things being one-sided.

I never really acted possessively my friend. I simply wanted her to be faithful or not seeing her.

i can stay without seeing her, I’m not gonna die.

I was just telling her what my conditions where and let her accept. I might have done it prematurely tho, but it did not come from a needy position - rather from à ‘ I préfère this and I’ll do without you if you don’t like it position ‘

Then she texted back and I’m like ‘ I’m curious what happens if I see her again ‘

It’s honestly more curiosity than neediness IMO

 

[nolimits]

Yeah, those numbers are a bit nuts hehe

Talk to 20 girls a day and you’ll have them too

 

[nolimits]

Keep dating other girls. I didn't say ONS but actually date some girls. She is doing the same anyways so you want to mirror her actions. And honestly if you keep dating you'll probably find someone that is better than her when she is ready for a relationship

I think this is what I need to do, wether I am enthusiastic about a certain girl or not. If I like a new girl at least a bit I might keep seeing her. Think this kind of emotional connection is what I lack at the moment

 

[nolimits]

Forget about one way monogamy. IMO that is a guy fantasy that really needs to die. If she is loyal to you.. great, if she wants to sample other cocks... great. What matters more is how she is treating you within the relationship and not what she does outside of it. And it shouldn't matter because you're fucking other girls anyways

Yeah, not super sold on this point man.

i remember chase writing an article on the danger of open relationships.

now maybe what you are talking about is simply to see a bunch of chicks at the same time, then yes, that’s what I’m doing too. But I think that if the woman is a faithful one, one side monogamy is doable.


of course you never know - I just think most people don’t like to lie

 

[Fuck This]

Someone going through a divorce is looking for a branch to grab to swing out of her existing marriage. You are that branch and she is swinging to another, but you were the branch in reach.

Her idea of a relationship is so F-ed up right now, you ain't gonna be able to create something worthwhile build on trust. Move on and let her drama be her's. Your mind will find more peace that way....

 

[Beam]

Happy to oblige. I mean if you guys are sarcastic and think I’m somewhat exaggerating I actually am not at all.

Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested. I have so many questions I don't know where to start. 20 approaches per day - how long does it take you to do them on average and what times do you go out/strategies do you use to find girls you dig with such high frequency and without coming across like a spam approacher - it's easy to find 20 girls you want to bone in NG but from DG street approaches it's a lot harder - do you have a full time job? Average of one check every 2.5 days - are you mainly going for SDLs or do you take numbers?

Would love if you made a detailed post on your process. Tons of guys here would be interested.

 

[nolimits]

As for my process guys, I think that spam approach does not exist when you are doing daygame and have a keen social sense.

You might tell yourself : this girl I’m going to approach just saw I was talking to another one 30 seconds earlier.

But most of the times she hasn’t and for all she knows the girl you have just approached could be a friend of yours.

so yeah if I’m alone I might talk to 20 girls in 2 hours, if I’m with a coach pushing me even to 30 in 2 hours.
Of Course this aren’t just fashion models.

I target from cute to hot because what’s hard isn’t talking to hot women in my opinion but simply talking to women in general.

As for my average keep in mind I don’t do this 10-20 girls approach every day thing year round.

I do this when I get hurt from relationships, or working on the skill actively. It is of course a big passion of mine too which helps

Also I don’t stay in the same street al day long, I walk around the center of a million people city and talk to girls. I also do this when I’m simply walking and running errands. If I’m shopping clothes I don’t think of clothes - I think of girls.

I have a coaching business so the better I am socially the more my clients benefit from my presence. What I mean is I think that you could think about girls whenever you aren’t working and your business will not take a hit.

Energy must always be focused there where it’s the hardest. A prospect call is very easy compared to talking to girls, so… this idea that girls and business can’t co exist that someone might have isn’t correct. Think of women all day long and you’ll still do business basically. The opposite is way harder

 

[nolimits]

As for the 40 year old chick I called her yesterday and the girl told me she was busy this week, but that she can text me next week ( WTF?!) that she is on tinder and after the first 3 guys she fucked who ‘ disappointed her’ she started to meet some guys who fuck her well.


Now, she doesn’t owe me anything but listening to this shit was pretty disgusting.

I think she rebounded with me and that what hurt me was that instead of saying it clearly which she tried but did not really make clear, she just said to herself ‘ ok this guy will allow me to move on from my ex husband, I’ll go on a vacation with him and then I will drop him’.

Meanwhile she did what felt like love bombing. I’ve been naive and yeah. Sucks to learn that !

Now what’s funny is that I knew she was on anti depressants and had other problems but I went in anyway, and that this is the second time I do such a thing (dating a girl who had red flags ) this year.

i guess I ‘m going through the emotional learning process of ‘don’t date women who club party or are on pills, old and got out of a divorce. ‘

It does hurt but that’s the only way to really learn something on a deeper lever and not just know it logically.