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FR  20.8.2019 Three short approaches

fearlessuk

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I'm very rusty and quickly went over my audio recordings. I haven't sarged for over 10 days. I been learning online game. I want to make the switch because I found day game is not as good as it use to be. I get blown out more than before. Maybe because I'm getting older or there are many day gamers effecting the market. A lot of girls just walk away as soon as I go direct. I believe now many girls have heard of day game. The new norm is probably online game and more acceptable in the UK

I think I will do a mixer of online game and day game mostly. If it rains, then i will hit the clubs, I have not done club for a very long time but seems like the answer for bad weather. The Online Dating course, I have been going over is very big and has taken me a very long time to go over. I'm only half way through lol.

First set

F: excuse me, sorry um, I just saw you form over there ....and......I think you look very cute

NOTE: perfect delivery

HB: thank you so much, thank you

F: you speak English really well, where are you from?

HB: I'm from South Korea

F: South Korea, onion eye seye O

HB: ha you know it very well, nice to meet you

F: My name is F, why you have this British Accent then?

HB: well I don't know

F: you speak like the Queen

HB: sorry

F: you speak like the Queen

NOTE: I had a bit of nervous energy because I haven't sarged for over 10 days. I'm not as relaxed when I spoke to her and I believed it showed in my non verbal. She must have felt it. Verbally, I still kind of knew what to say, maybe because all the FRs I have written has helped. It did show in my face, i was not comfortable and I was still stifled. This was kind of when things screwed up for me because if you don't go out regularly, this is what happens

HB: I do?

F: yeah, i don't know why

HB: i don't know

F: it reminds me of, you know British tea

NOTE: high tea is what i wanted to say. It didn't come out right as I was still stiffied.

HB: haha

F: sandwich and all that kind of stuff

HB: it's okay

F: so, have you been living here for a long time then?

HB: just 2 years

F: is it? and you name?

NOTE: I'm trying to free associate smoothly but it's not coming out smoothly lol. I just need to go out more.

HB: my name is Sue, sorry ( very posh lol)

F: but that's not a Korean name?

HB: Haysiu. Make it easier

F: okay haha. So what are you doing down here then?

HB: browsing around

F: browsing around and looking at (Men was what I was about to say, too bad she cut me off)

HB: and you?

F: basically, I had dim sum with my friends so, I just came here. I was walking around and I saw you. I thought wow.

F: you look kind of, you look alright haha

NOTE: This is very good. This is ambiguous and not complementing her too much. You should use: you look alright more

HB: thank you

F: yeah so, you look like your shopping or something, I don't know

HB: yes

F: can we stand over there

NOTE: outside a shop
minutes 1.50 moved her to one side

F: that guys is looking at us

NOTE: next time say: we are blocking the entrance

HB: oh okay

F: you came here shopping or

HB: no no no I live here

F: okay

HB: yeah

F: what did you come here for today then?

HB: blah blah browsing around

F: haha that was what i was asking you

HB: yeah okay

HB: where are you from? what about you?

F: where do you think, I'm from?

HB: I have no idea

F: India (pause) or Africa?

NOTE: good delivery and good pauses

HB: non of those nah haha

F: I was born here

HB: ok

F: basically my parents are from HK

F: have you been to HK or?

HB: not yet

F: not yet, so when?

F: how about tomorrow, me and you, we go now

HB: hahha


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NOTE: you missed the chance to self amuse and create a lover/boyfriend frame

F: how about tomorrow, me and you, we go now. Get married and have 50 babies. You can be wife number 67

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HB: my sister blah

F: Sue, you know, it's amazing. Your British is so amazing. I don't know if you are British or Korean.

HB: thank you

NOTE: I was impressed with her accent but I shouldn't have continued down this path on complimenting her about it. You can compliment her on something else or say something else

F: you look like the middle one in the family

HB: I'm the youngest one

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NOTE: missed chance to put her in a naughty frame

F: you look like the youngest one and the naughty one. You look like a very bad student

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F: you have this middle child feeling

HB: no I don't haha

HB: I have an older brother

F: but seem kind of mature kind of thing

HB: why thank you

F: not crazy haha

HB: doesn't mean all great

F: you doing well so far

NOTE: good frame. Don't be afraid the neg her a bit. It balances out the complements and statement of intent. Being able to say things she doesn't like can built trust but obviously don't go over board. This is a nice balance

HB: okay

F: I don't know, you don't have the feeling that you the youngest one

HB: okay interesting

F: that's a good thing right?

F: I don't know if your doing anything right now ............but........... I want to get a cup of coffee with you right now

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NOTE: you screwed up here. Your meant to say:

F: You, know what, I feel like a cup of coffee right now......and .........I want you to join me. Just for 5 minutes, I need to get going soon.

+ This is the standard instant date line. I'm not sure why I said the above. You asking for permission which is needy and low value

+ 2nd screw up is, asking her when I just broke rapport with her. You should only instant date on a high or positive note. Never instant date her on a negative vibe

+ 3rd lesson is you gut feeling told you not to instant date but you did it anyway. It is good practice though I guess

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HB: I'm sorry, I kind of going shopping

F: oh, alright, no problem. Is there something you have to buy or

NOTE: running out of thing to say, so I start plowing, which is good. I am a bit rusty

HB: I'm looking for clothes and stuff

F: discount

HB: yeah

NOTE: my gut told me it wasn't going well anyway. It was expected.

F: handbags

HB: blah blah blah

F: so you looking to buy handbags or?

HB: I don't know, clothes or something

HB: something pretty, that's all

F: so where abouts do you live?

NOTE: good plowing to get into state for the next girl

HB: Stratford, East london

F: oh, that's like a shopping area right

NOTE: that's near my area but for some reason, I pretended I didn't know that place. I don't know why I did that. Maybe nervous still and not thinking straight.

F: Westfield

HB: Westfield yeah, I live in front of westfield

F: is it, so you can go shopping everyday and look at all the good looking men

NOTE: she didn't react well, to the good looking men part. Her facial expression told me everything. That's her problem, not mine. My job is to introduce a lover or boyfriend frame. Well done for trying

HB: my husband blah blah blah

minutes 4.37. we find she has a husband. This is good to know

NOTE: I didn't feel comfortable kinoing her much, I think her mirco expression told me she didn't want to. My gut feeling

F: oh your married, sorry man

HB: that's okay

F: you look very young

NOTE: pushing for state for the next girl

HB: I am young, I just got married young

F: so you got married when you were 16 right?

HB: no

minutes 4.52
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fearlessuk

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F: so you got married when you were 16 right?

HB: no

F: how old are you, you look 27?

HB: something like that, yeah

F: did you mean in Soul

HB: no

F: like on the street, the way we met or something

HB: nooo

F: hahaha

HB: met in South Korea

NOTE: just plowing and trying to get in a state

HB tells her story

F: that's it, he sounds like Prince harry or something and it transferred to you

F: so what is Saul like, I never been actually

HB: blah blha

F: would you say its cramped together

HB: I guess so

F: i don't know if you been to HK or not

HB: I think it has a similar feeling yeah

F: so it's like shopping area

F: have you ever crossed the boarder, North Korea

HB: you die

F: haha

HB: Not allowed

F: is it that bad

HB: I have no idea because I never crossed the boarder

NOTE: obviously married and she wasn't showing signs of interest, so not much i can do with her. Just learn more about North Korea, might help me in future

F: there wouldn't be any relatives over there, would there?

HB: not in my generation

F: have you heard of relatives stuck down there or something

HB: no sure

F: we are talking this happened 100 years ago, is it

HB: about 80 years ago. It happened in 1940s, yeah

F: that makes sense actually, that means there is no relative down there

HB: small, not a lot

F; so do you like it in the UK?

HB: yeah

F: I know you married a British man but do you like it

HB: yeah I like it here

F: how about the food?

HB: blah

F: I don't know, I prefer Chinese, Korean or Japanese

HB: I use to be like that, but i kind of changed

F: now you like eating pizza and pasta

HB: yeah

F: kfc kind of stuff

F: do you have any tattoos?

NOTE: random but good practice lol

F: you look like someone who has tattoos

HB: no I don't haha

F: maybe you should get a Hello kitty or something

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NOTE: for an other girl, you can say:
F: Maybe you can get a, I love you FearlessUk on you back or something.

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HB: I need to go now

F: alright, you take care. bye

NOTE: my interaction isn't too bad. I kept thinking it was awful because I kept getting rejected by girls, almost all day. Some will walk away as soon as i go direct.

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fearlessuk

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2nd set

F: sorry, excuse me. I just saw you from over there and

HB: huh

F: I saw you from over there

HB: sure (confused)

F: no i saw you from over there.......and..........

+ police car passes by making loud noise and i crack up laughing. I wait until the noise disappears

F: haha sorry, I think you look very cute

HB: oh thank you

F: where you from? you look like your from China or something?

HB: yes yes yes

NOTE: trying to walk away. I plow. Today is all about plowing, everyone is walking away today

F: my name is F by the way, whats your name?

NOTE: voice deepens, good!!!

HB: hahaha I need to go

NOTE: she is catching on. Basically I know how to plow and keep her chatting to me.

F: knee how, knee ji nar ley joe some more

HB: blah walking away a little

F: 2 seconds, i know you busy and i know you have to go some where

HB: yes

F: are you going shopping or something or

HB: no I need to go back, sorry

F: I like to take your number and we go for coffee sometime

F: maybe not today but some other time

HB: (shake head) . thank you

F: why, why you break my heart

NOTE: you can say "I love you" next time

HB; sorry

F: why you break my heart

HB: it's quite random haha

F: yeah

HB: sorry haha

F: I don't normally do this but you look like my type and

HB: no no no thank you

F: haha

HB: thank you very much

F: no problem, where in China are you from?

HB: Bejing

HB: how about you

F: India or Africa?

HB: you

F: yeah where do you think i'm from? India or Africa

HB: AFrica (giggles)

F: nah I'm just kidding haha

F: i was born here but parents from HK

HB: ok

F: have you been to HK?

NOTE: good plowing skills

HB: yes yes yes ( speaking quickly the whole time)

F: so how many handbags and shoes you have then?

F: in HK that's what you normally do right? Shopping?

HB: no you shop here


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NOTE: you can say:
F: Marry me, I love you

(man to woman) and she will know your joking.
F: your the one, my soul mate

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F: why here better, tell me

HB: here is cheaper haha

F: really?

HB: haha

F: but i think the shoes are better

HB: yeah yeah yeah, sorry but i really got to go

F: how many handbag do you have? 20 or 30?

HB: are you interviewing me? are there cameras around?

+both giggle

F; no camera no no no

F: what in China they have cameras do they

HB: yeah yeah yeah

HB: sorry i got to go

F: no just 2 seconds no?

HB: no i got to go haha thank you very much

F: I buy you coffee

HB: next time yeah

F: there is no next time

HB: maybe :)

F: can i get your number then?

HB: no sorry haha

F: but you said next time

HB: if i bump into you an other time

F: whats you name anyway, my name is F

HB: Tina

F: Tina is an English name, not a Chinese name

F: it should be Chen, Cherry, Coco

HB: Cherry is not a Chinese name haha

F: Cherry is a Chinese name

HB: no it's not

F: there's a lot girls called Cherry, Coco, Candy

HB: not really haha

HB: I got to go back to work

F: Tina, is that from Tina Turner

HB: I don't know, thank you. Bye bye

F: number number

F: 5 minutes, we go for a cup of coffee

HB: I'm busy today ,sorry haha

F: it's it because it's strange

HB: yes

F: what if we met on Tinder

NOTE: I couldn't come up with anything, so I came up with tinder lol

HB: sorry

F: an dating app instead

HB: I don't use dating app

F: what do you use

HB: Happen

+ some bullshit

F: alright, you take care. Have a nice day

HB: you too

Mintues 3.40

Conclusion is: I feel like my game is shit but really just having a bad day I guess. it could be better obviously but not as bad as i made it out to be. Just need to keep going
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sumwunimetonce

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Do you want feedback on these ? I did not read the entire thing but they all sounded quite boring.

Good job for getting them done though ... I lived in London a long time ... not sure how many UK peeps on here but it is so much harder than the US to day game. And East London is full of skeezy men so girls are probably very wary.

I read a post on Roosh forums where a guy said all girls fall into 3 categories, YES, MAYBE and NO, yes being they are super easy as they already made there mind up about you, maybe when you use game and No when you just walk away, maybe these girls were just never into you so it was never going to happen.

But I will say again, good job day gaming in London.

I also found some videos on a channel called Good Looking loser on you tube. They guy has good day game, very deep commanding voice but nice easy banter ...

Good luck
 

fearlessuk

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sumwunimetonce said:
Do you want feedback on these ? I did not read the entire thing but they all sounded quite boring.

Good job for getting them done though ... I lived in London a long time ... not sure how many UK peeps on here but it is so much harder than the US to day game. And East London is full of skeezy men so girls are probably very wary.

I read a post on Roosh forums where a guy said all girls fall into 3 categories, YES, MAYBE and NO, yes being they are super easy as they already made there mind up about you, maybe when you use game and No when you just walk away, maybe these girls were just never into you so it was never going to happen.

But I will say again, good job day gaming in London.

I also found some videos on a channel called Good Looking loser on you tube. They guy has good day game, very deep commanding voice but nice easy banter ...

Good luck

I'm trying to snap out of my boring conversations but sometimes old habits sneak right back in.

Feedback would be appreciated :)

I do feel it's very difficult to day game
 
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