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I only want to reply to her to show I have no grudges and that i accept things as they are, because my last message to her (before her audio and try's to call me) might have conveied the oposite by not wanting to meet and stating that her entertaining another man earlier this year is also a reason for me to walk out. I dont wanna look like i dont accept shit , idk
You only want to change her perception because you have some hope that she’ll come back. Ironically doing so will actually decrease the chances she does.

If you truly accept it, accept it by moving on. If you have to retroactively tell her you accept it, then your actions reveal the opposite.
 

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You only want to change her perception because you have some hope that she’ll come back. Ironically doing so will actually decrease the chances she does.

If you truly accept it, accept it by moving on. If you have to retroactively tell her you accept it, then your actions reveal the opposite.
Even if my last message rejecting her meet before she spazzed out was something along the lines of " There is no need for an emotional talk, im good. We all have personal problems but things like respect comitment and loyalty are unegociable. And your previous mistakes have shown me that you are not the person I tought you were regarding those values, honestly I dont want any part in that. You can choose to tell whatever narrative you want but only we know the truth. "
 

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Even if my last message rejecting her meet before she spazzed out was something along the lines of " There is no need for an emotional talk. We all have personal problems but things like respect comitment and loyalty are unegociable. And your previous mistakes have shown me that you are not the person I tought you were regarding those values, honestly I dont want any part in that. You can choose to tell whatever narrative you want but only we know the truth. "
I dunno maybe she won’t come back. Why do you care?

If you love her so much why did you break up with her?

As a man make a choice, chase her down and get back with her, warts and all. Or move on.

This half assed “let me send the right message to her so i can hopefully manipulate her into missing me so i don’t embarrass myself by chasing her to get back with me” is weak and indecisive as fuck.

Chase her and beg her to get back with you. Or turn your back on her and do better with the next one.

The tone of your last message isn’t the problem.
 

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I dunno maybe she won’t come back. Why do you care?

If you love her so much why did you break up with her?

As a man make a choice, chase her down and get back with her, warts and all. Or move on.

This half assed “let me send the right message to her so i can hopefully manipulate her into missing me so i don’t embarrass myself by chasing her to get back with me” is weak and indecisive as fuck.

Chase her and beg her to get back with you. Or turn your back on her and do better with the next one.

The tone of your last message isn’t the problem.
I understand that. But the reason im trying to decide the best way to exit this and leave her wondering she fucked up is to atleast have that to lean on while healing, knowing that I left the right way keeping a strong frame and dignity and that she probably will regret instigating a break up down the line.
I feel the need to make the best exit possible in that regard but for my own well being. If i would fuck her again it would not be to have her back and resume a relationship, because once she goes trough other dudes I can never see her the same way. It would be for my self esteem knowing that she came crawling back because I wasnt the low value man she portraid me to be.
Thats why im asking if my last message was good enough in that regard, because truth is i want her to regret, i put years and effort into this relationship took a lot of shit and went trough the worst phase of my life regarding mental and physical health.
 

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@Pushpullsucker
Take the fucking pain and move on.
Stop being a petty mofo that still moans about women exercising their RIGHT to have sex with whomever they want.

Relationships come and go, that's the nature of it all.
Embrace it and do better next time.

You are punching a wall hoping your hand won't break in the process...it will never work.
 

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I understand that. But the reason im trying to decide the best way to exit this and leave her wondering she fucked up is to atleast have that to lean on while healing, knowing that I left the right way keeping a strong frame and dignity and that she probably will regret instigating a break up down the line.
I feel the need to make the best exit possible in that regard but for my own well being. If i would fuck her again it would not be to have her back and resume a relationship, because once she goes trough other dudes I can never see her the same way. It would be for my self esteem knowing that she came crawling back because I wasnt the low value man she portraid me to be.
Thats why im asking if my last message was good enough in that regard, because truth is i want her to regret, i put years and effort into this relationship took a lot of shit and went trough the worst phase of my life regarding mental and physical health.
The very fact that you’re having these thoughts is just proof that you are the low value guy youre worried she thinks you are.

Want to be perceived as high value?

Walk away quietly and let her be. Then spend your time working to be a stronger and more valuable man. Build your value in your own eyes. Any other move is low value.

I promise you for all your bullshit, if she texts you to meet up tomorrow, you will. If she offers you the pussy, you won’t turn it down. And if she apologizes you’ll jump right back into the same swamp you just got out of. You’re pretending right now.

If being high value is a true concern walk away. Actions speak truest…
 
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@Pushpullsucker
Take the fucking pain and move on.
Stop being a petty mofo that still moans about women exercising their RIGHT to have sex with whomever they want.

Relationships come and go, that's the nature of it all.
Embrace it and do better next time.

You are punching a wall hoping your hand won't break in the process...it will never work.
The very fact that you’re having these thoughts is just proof that you are the low value guy youre worried she thinks you are.

Want to be perceived as high value?

Walk away quietly and let her be. Then spend your time working to be a stronger and more valuable man. Build your value in your own eyes. Any other move is low value.

I promise you for all your bullshit, if she texts you to meet up tomorrow, you will. If she offers you the pussy, you won’t turn it down. And if she apologizes you’ll jump right back into the same swamp you just got out of. You’re pretending right now.

If being high value is a true concern walk away. Actions speak truest…
I hear you.. Thanks
 

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I can i understand, I was out from a 3.5 year relationship when I joined this sub. it takes around .5 to 1 year to let go of your relationshipw ith this person. Most important thing is, don't try to force yourself to let go of this person and your memories with her. Just simply -- let it be. The more you actively try to pursue action on something that is already 100% in your past, the more pain you will have with no purpose. I learned myself the hard way. Definitely pursue other women in the meantime, as soon as you can. I regret not going out there sooner! In my experience, the two women i have been with since then and the countless others I have been on dates with made it clear that there is so much out there. Sounds like you really loved this person but for me, it was there but not as strong, I always felt there was someone else out there for me, or many others in fact, so perhaps it may take longer for you, but no matter what if you pursue this seduction journey you will move along faster than most.
 

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though it is ultimately yours to decide, there is no point going back to her, although you might already know this as I didn't really read everything
 

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Im kinda failing right now tbh, shit hurting like hell. Plus i see she has now started to learn jiu jitsu in the school i used to practice in her town, which hurts not only cause I know she is looking for a new types of dudes and exploring a new market, but also cause when I invited her back then she didnt want to come. Its not even only Jiu Jitsu right now, she is doubling down on all my main interests for the past few months like playing guitar and car enthusiasm. These things/interests she "learned" from my personality make her more atractive right now, its like she is doing it on porpuse and using it against me. Idk man I feel like im losing this battle tbh.
 
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Im kinda failing right now tbh, shit hurting like hell. Plus i see she has now started to learn jiu jitsu in the school i used to practice in her town, which hurts not only cause I know she is looking for a new types of dudes and exploring a new market, but also cause when I invited her back then she didnt want to come. It’s not even only Jiu Jitsu right now, she is doubling down on all my main interests for the past few months like playing guitar and car enthusiasm. These things/interests she "learned" from my personality make her more atractive right now, it’s like she is doing it on porpuse and using it against me. Idk man I feel like im losing this battle tbh.
Yeah different mindsets i guess..

Me, I’d be looking at that and laughing to myself at how much of an influence I still have on her. Bitch can’t make a decision without me having a hand in it and I haven’t even touched her in months..
 

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Yeah different mindsets i guess..

Me, I’d be looking at that and laughing to myself at how much of an influence I still have on her. Bitch can’t make a decision without me having a hand in it and I haven’t even touched her in months..
Yeah I can understand that POV. But rn I kinda see it as an "hijack" of my personality and tastes to serve her in making herself more appealing and increase her odds of finding a better quality replacement asap. Kinda makes me mad in the senses that If I was such a turn off then why are you copying everything i did, and that I was at least expecting her to grieve for a while before finding someone good enough to help her completely forget me, and in the way she is acting it shouldnt take long.

Idk how to detach myself from wanting her to grieve losing me for a couple of months, and stop giving a fuck if she will find someone better than me. I know it is wrong to want her to feel the pain of losing me but yeah im not sure how to change my mindset in that regard, I think she is winning the "game" rn in that sense
 

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Yeah I can understand that POV. But rn I kinda see it as an "hijack" of my personality and tastes to serve her in making herself more appealing and increase her odds of finding a better quality replacement asap. Kinda makes me mad in the senses that If I was such a turn off then why are you copying everything i did, and that I was at least expecting her to grieve for a while before finding someone good enough to help her completely forget me, and in the way she is acting it shouldnt take long.

Idk how to detach myself from wanting her to grieve losing me for a couple of months, and stop giving a fuck if she will find someone better than me. I know it is wrong to want her to feel the pain of losing me but yeah im not sure how to change my mindset in that regard, I think she is winning the "game" rn in that sense
lol. she is grieving. she’s literally taken up jiu jitsu after you dumped her. i wouldnt be surprised if she’s fretting wondering how she can be more of what you want to get you back…

she’ll be back man. but if you reach out now you’ll mess up the process. go and mind your business .
 

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Yea women can be pretty unstable after breakup. For my ex it was an insane emotional vortex of keeping you on the hook for emotional validation ("are you still interested in me, just in case?"), contacting all her friends and simps for emotional support, spying on my social media activity through her friends, searching for other guys for rebounds/easy wins with chumps ready to buy her roses, posting thrist traps/new ig posts, dying/cutting their hair, shopping spree, writing to me a formal declaration of the end of our relationship and how she learned so much from us but then pinging me that she was insecure if I was seeing other girls already and then somehow being turned on by that possibility and then trying to have raunchy phone sex with me despite not wanting to meet with me, etc.

Basically I wouldn't read too much into it, it's a black hole and total complete waste of time, if you participate it, it can really screw you up because she's just trying to suck away as much "life force" left from you, stroke her fragile ego that you're dependent on her or pining. Because the last thing she wants to her and that you've moved on and that you're better off without her. No use to try to understand her behaviors as she's operating on coping mechanisms/grief.

I got a little stressed just thinking about the drama I got involved in and wasted time thinking about post-breakup when I could have just been chilling with a new girl. Like, so many new girls and so many ways to start a new love life, why try to revive a ghost from the past?
 
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lol. she is grieving. she’s literally taken up jiu jitsu after you dumped her. i wouldnt be surprised if she’s fretting wondering how she can be more of what you want to get you back…

she’ll be back man. but if you reach out now you’ll mess up the process. go and mind your business .
Ye im not reaching out, her birthday is tomorrow and for some time i tought about giving her happy birthday but that would just put me in a bad frame i feel lol.

Have you love grieved a girl like this before? And if so, how did you detach fast and overcome all the intrusive toughts like the possibility of her getting someone better or fucking other men?
 

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Ye im not reaching out, her birthday is tomorrow and for some time i tought about giving her happy birthday but that would just put me in a bad frame i feel lol.

Have you love grieved a girl like this before? And if so, how did you detach fast and overcome all the intrusive toughts like the possibility of her getting someone better or fucking other men?
i dunno. i get the thoughts, they just don’t bother me i guess. girls have vaginas and they’re gunna use them. why would i let the inevitable bother me? she might fuck somebody better?..i guess i better become the type of man that guy should worry about, and if i can’t who cares?

there are bigger things in this world to worry about than pussy my friend. you’re going to die one day…
 

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overcome all the intrusive toughts like the possibility of her getting someone better or fucking other men?
Look. You either want her or you dont want her. If you dont want her, what does it matter that she is with someone else? Good for her.

If you want her, be with her, stop whining about it and take action to make it happen.
 

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Look. You either want her or you dont want her. If you dont want her, what does it matter that she is with someone else? Good for her.

If you want her, be with her, stop whining about it and take action to make it happen.
Its not that simple. I can still not want her in her current frame and still worry about her replacing me easily lol. And even if i did want her there is nothing i can do right now.
 
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