Advice on how to move forward with this girl

[SteveUno]

Hey guys,

I went on a date with a girl two nights ago who I met on a dating app. We went out to a restaurant and she seemed to be having a great time. About 1 1/2 hour into the date I suggested we head out and go somewhere else. The closest place where we could get drinks was a bit of a drive. She seemed up for it but didn't want to be out too late when she found out how far it was. So we called it a night and I drove her to her house which wasn't far.

When I got back home that night, I got a text from her saying she had a great time. I texted her back a few minutes after saying we should do something next week and see this place she talked about checking out.

She didn't respond to it. So how do I proceed forward without looking like I'm chasing?

Should I text her during the week and ask if she wants to do that activity? Or should I wait for her to text (I don't think she'll text me out of the blue).

Any suggestions on what to say and when I should say it would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[normajean106]

Sounds like some escalation windows were missed. I'd just next her if I were you.

 

[SteveUno]

Sounds like some escalation windows were missed. I'd just next her if I were you.

She sounded genuinely interested in going out again. I won't next her just because I didn't sleep with her the first night.
I have another date lined up but I want to know when and how I should text her next without sounding like I'm chasing.

If she doesn't want to hang out or doesn't respond, then I'll next her. But as of now I can make progress with her.

 

[SteveUno]

Wait a few days, then ping her

"Hey name how's your day treating you?"

If she responds, go straight for the date set up. If not, NEXT.

"Mine too! Still wanna grab those drinks this week?"

Her: "sure!" Or no response

If no response then NEXT.

You: "ok great! What night are you free?"

Her:x night

You: perfect, I'll ping you x day and we'll get the details figured out.
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This is the exact script I would use, sounds like you'll have a good chance of seeing her again. You probably scared her a bit by going for the date two setup too quickly. It was too presumptuous and excited sounding I think. This script will put you back in the lead and there's really no personality behind it, just a nice laid back script that gets straight to the point. Same script that is use to set up date 1 as well. I never deviate, if I already used the script from date 1 I just change up the wording slightly. Let me know how it goes.

Radeng

Radeng,

Great advice, brother. Your logic is solid. I didn't realize I probably scared her off by setting up the second date too quickly... yeah, it did sound too excited.

I'm gonna use your script, and if there's no response, I'll drop her. I'll definitely let you know how it goes.

 

[Franco]

SteveUno,

I texted her back a few minutes after saying we should do something next week and see this place she talked about checking out.

For future reference, I wouldn't let her know you're interested in another date with her at least for 2-3 days after the first date. You can respond with something warm to her text (i.e. such as, "I had a great time too ") and then wait a few days to set up the next date.

If you attempt to set up the next date like that right away, it doesn't leave her any time to wonder about how you feel about her. You want her to feel like she isn't sure about whether or not you like her, which adds more value to you and also builds up more anticipation for when you do invite her out again -- which increases the odds she says "yes."

If she told you she had a great time though, then it means that there's a solid chance that she did like you. Try following up in a few days like radeng mentioned and seeing if you can schedule another meet-up with her; it's not guaranteed, but it's worth a try.

- Franco

 

[Bboy100]

Wait a few days, then ping her

For future reference, I wouldn't let her know you're interested in another date with her at least for 2-3 days after the first date.

Hey guys, slightly off topic but, what do you think about asking a girl out on a second date at the end of the first? I've been trying this as of late and it seems like it might be more effective because it allows you to deal with any logistical objections more easily (ex. She might say she's busy with x thing on the day/week you asked to meet her. It would be a lot easier to deal with objections like these without coming off as needy or pushy in person). Additionally, it gets a commitment out of her on the spot, so flaking is less likely. Finally, if you say "had a good time" then don't text her back for 2-3 days, won't she know that's what you're doing? I mean...you already told her you had a good time. I feel like once you've done that, you've kinda shown your hand. Making her wait might just give her more time for the positive emotions she had towards you to cool off and it might come off as tryharding to look aloof? I could be wrong. Let me know!

 

[Franco]

Bboy100,

Hey guys, slightly off topic but, what do you think about asking a girl out on a second date at the end of the first?

I can't say I'm really a fan of this method, Bboy! The reason being is that I'm always pushing for the close at the end of a first date instead!

Generally, at the end of the date, that's when I'm trying to be persistent in getting her to come home with me, so you'll never really catch me trying to set up the second meetup at the end of the date. Likewise, if you're pushing for the close and you can't get her to come home with you, it ends up becoming the WORST time to try to set up a date because she just won a battle over you (power in in her court), and now it looks needy to try to set up a date right then and there. So even in the scenario where I don't get her to come home with me on the first date, I'm still not a fan of setting up a second date.

Finally, if you say "had a good time" then don't text her back for 2-3 days, won't she know that's what you're doing? I mean...you already told her you had a good time. I feel like once you've done that, you've kinda shown your hand.

Not at all! I'll ask you this: how many guys do you know just text a girl (that they were interested in seeing again) "I had a good night " and then just leave it at that for a few days? Probably not too many, right? There are usually two scenarios the girl encounters: the guy gets super excited that she texted him and he begins attempting to text her back and forth because he feels like she wants to "chat" more after the date; OR, the guy immediately replies with, "yeah, I had a good time too! How about we <insert some sort of second date offer right away>."

So basically, the scenario of replying warmly (which lets the girl know you actually had a good time and aren't butt-hurt about anything, such as her not coming home with you after persisting) is a scenario she almost never encounters. So the girl tends to become very anxious when she realizes she hasn't heard from you in a day or two after a "good" date. Because of this, when you do contact her, she's been thinking about you so much that she gets extremely excited at the prospect of meeting up with you and accepts immediately! I call this effect during the period where you aren't talking to her "mental investment," and I go into detail about it in my podcast for GC. If you're curious about this concept, my podcast covers it pretty well.

The only other "second date tactic" that I employ is when I go into a date knowing that I won't be able to close that night -- even with this model, my plan is usually to exit the date at a high point (when she's most excited about me) without setting up another date. This makes her wonder whether or not she'll get to see me again; often times I'll end up with the "I had a great time" text after this type of date too because the girl might be worried that I don't want to see her again, and I'll sometimes use that to lead into more conversation with her afterward, but I still won't set up the next date until at least 2 days later or so. This gives me time to gain mental investment from her.

Making her wait might just give her more time for the positive emotions she had towards you to cool off and it might come off as tryharding to look aloof? I could be wrong. Let me know!

Quite the opposite! As I mentioned above, it's hard to look "tryhard aloof" during this phase because every other guy is being a "tryhard texter" by trying to chat her up or set up another date immediately. You actually stand out (and genuinely make her think about you more) by being more aloof under these circumstances. =)

- Franco

 

[Kaelos]

I wouldn't let her know you're interested in another date with her at least for 2-3 days after the first date. You can respond with something warm to her text (i.e. such as, "I had a great time too ") and then wait a few days to set up the next date.

Franco,

What if you didn't close her on first date (she rejected the isolation) and she doesn't text you anything immediately after.

Do you text her that same night, "I had a good night " and then wait 2-3 days to set up the next date?

Or do you not text anything after the date and just wait the 2-3 days to set up the next date?

 

[Bboy100]

Generally, at the end of the date, that's when I'm trying to be persistent in getting her to come home with me, so you'll never really catch me trying to set up the second meetup at the end of the date. Likewise, if you're pushing for the close and you can't get her to come home with you, it ends up becoming the WORST time to try to set up a date because she just won a battle over you (power in in her court), and now it looks needy to try to set up a date right then and there. So even in the scenario where I don't get her to come home with me on the first date, I'm still not a fan of setting up a second date.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong or I'm just not moving fast enough. But in the case of my dates,she either mentions that she has something to do later that night (sometimes because I ask if she has plans later on, sometimes she just brings it up on her own). And when that does happen, I always try to plan for a second date. Just because usually, her plans (fictional or not) are usually something important like "I have to study because I have an exam tomorrow". Persisting past such objections is very difficult. But then again...I've still never actually had a second date with a girl I didn't close on the first (regardless of which model I use...I've tried both!). So maybe my mistake is in something else entirely haha.
But in any case, yeah, I could just end the date on a high note as you mentioned in your post. That might be a lot more effective. Is amount of time spent on the date a factor? Cause I could imagine there being a "high note" 10 minutes in. But I'd guess that's probably not a good time to make an exit haha. Also, by leaving on a high note instead of moving the interaction forward, does that not run the risk of missing an EW or sending her into auto-reject?

Not at all! I'll ask you this: how many guys do you know just text a girl (that they were interested in seeing again) "I had a good night " and then just leave it at that for a few days? Probably not too many, right?

Ahhh, ok. I didn't know this. Tbh, I only have a few friends who have even a modicum of success with women. And none of them go on "dates". They just pull girls via social circle. So I actually have no idea what other guys are doing. In fact, I assumed most of them were waiting 3 days. Especially since "the 3 day rule" is something that is or at least was popular in the media and in literature. So I assumed women would know exactly what I was doing.

 

[SteveUno]

SteveUno,

I texted her back a few minutes after saying we should do something next week and see this place she talked about checking out.

For future reference, I wouldn't let her know you're interested in another date with her at least for 2-3 days after the first date. You can respond with something warm to her text (i.e. such as, "I had a great time too ") and then wait a few days to set up the next date.

If you attempt to set up the next date like that right away, it doesn't leave her any time to wonder about how you feel about her. You want her to feel like she isn't sure about whether or not you like her, which adds more value to you and also builds up more anticipation for when you do invite her out again -- which increases the odds she says "yes."

If she told you she had a great time though, then it means that there's a solid chance that she did like you. Try following up in a few days like radeng mentioned and seeing if you can schedule another meet-up with her; it's not guaranteed, but it's worth a try.

- Franco

Great points, Franco. I definitely jumped the gun.

Is it better to hang out with her on a weekday or weekend to go to a place she wanted to see? I figured the weekday date would be good so I could set something up for the weekend where it would be a party atmosphere and I can escalate much better without resistance.

Also, we hung out on Saturday, so is Wednesday a good day to text her?

I'll text her to hang out and if she's busy, I'll tell her to get in touch with me when she's free.

 

[SteveUno]

**Update**

Out of the blue tonight, she texted me saying she definitely wants to hang out again this week.

So that saves the trouble of me texting her again to see if she'll bite

Franco, I listened to your GC podcast. EXCELLENT! You highlighted a lot of key concepts.

You say in that podcast (towards the end) that if a girl texts you, not to wait too long to text because her mood might change. Now that's in the case where you two are texting back and forth, right? And that's not the case her? She just texted me back but I should probably wait a day to reclaim my position as the one in control?

 

[Franco]

Kaelos,

What if you didn't close her on first date (she rejected the isolation) and she doesn't text you anything immediately after.

Do you text her that same night, "I had a good night " and then wait 2-3 days to set up the next date?

Or do you not text anything after the date and just wait the 2-3 days to set up the next date?

I usually just don't text anything, wait a few days, and then attempt to set up the second date. It's generally not the best sign when a girl sends you nothing after the date (because it usually means she wasn't thrilled by it), but it's also the case that some girls are just shy OR they are disciplined and know how to play the game well, so they want you to be the one to text first after the date.

Bboy,

Just because usually, her plans (fictional or not) are usually something important like "I have to study because I have an exam tomorrow". Persisting past such objections is very difficult. But then again...I've still never actually had a second date with a girl I didn't close on the first (regardless of which model I use...I've tried both!). So maybe my mistake is in something else entirely haha.

Haha, you need to learn to be a bit more arrogant/selfish here! You're under the mindset of "her time is more valuable than my time because she's more valuable" rather than "my time is more valuable than her time because I'm more valuable."

When I schedule a date with a girl, it's under the impression that I'm giving her the opportunity to sleep with me, and anything else that she has planned that night is less important than the time I'm committing to her. Regardless of what her excuse is, I always push forward assuming that she realizes what a sexy, awesome guy I am, and that the opportunity to go home with me may never happen to her again. Think about it from her potential perspective: Do I sleep with this man who's just as sexy as Brad Pitt and possibly experience the best sex of my life? Or do I study a few more hours to maybe get a "B" instead of a "C" on this exam? (NOTE: Probably more than half of the reasons you'll hear from her are mostly excuses that she had pre-planned before the date anyway, so I always assume that there's only some truth to her reasoning; also, think about what a "bad boy" would do here? Does he care about her exams more than getting her into bed?)

Is amount of time spent on the date a factor? Cause I could imagine there being a "high note" 10 minutes in. But I'd guess that's probably not a good time to make an exit haha.

Well, generally a high "note" is more of a period for me. So, you'll just notice that the past 5-10 minutes or so has been really smooth between you two -- you're both laughing and flirting and really enjoying each other's company.

This doesn't usually happen until at least an hour into the date, although it can happen sooner or later than that depending on the girl and the circumstances. I always say that 90 minutes into the date is a good time to be looking to take her home (or make your exit if you're running date compression). Any longer than that and you risk missing the "high note" window; any shorter than that -- unless you're experienced -- and you risk trying to pull her too early before she's really felt the full comfort and attraction of your vibe.

Also, by leaving on a high note instead of moving the interaction forward, does that not run the risk of missing an EW or sending her into auto-reject?

Well, taking her home on a high note is actually hitting that escalation window! That's the epitome of a good example of not missing an escalation window.

If you're referring to leaving the date (instead of inviting her home), then you already knew you weren't going to take any further escalation windows at that point, and the idea is to leave her thinking about you as this amazing man that she (hopefully) gets to see again.

SteveUno,

Out of the blue tonight, she texted me saying she definitely wants to hang out again this week.

Mental investment in full effect! She was worried that she hadn't heard from you because she really liked you, so she decided it would be best to contact you before she "loses" you to another girl.

You say in that podcast (towards the end) that if a girl texts you, not to wait too long to text because her mood might change. Now that's in the case where you two are texting back and forth, right? And that's not the case her? She just texted me back but I should probably wait a day to reclaim my position as the one in control?

I don't remember exactly what part of the podcast you're referring to, but generally you want to "reward" good behavior (her texting you out of the blue to initiate) as best as you can. In this case, her emotions are obviously warm for you and she went out of her way to text you first, which is very risky for a girl -- she puts a lot of her reputation on the line every time she does something to chase you. So you want to reward that by not taking too long to respond.

I usually don't reply to a new text from a girl right away, but I'd probably respond within a few hours of receiving a text like that. =)

- Franco

 

[SteveUno]

Franco, I should've texted her soon after but I didn't see this until today! Haha I'll text her today, when her day is unwinding in the late afternoon/early evening. I think texting early in the day when she's busy is more likely to give the vibe of me just popping in out of nowhere and she's more likely to put the text in the back of her mind.

By the way, Franco, I have a question for you regarding setting up dates. If I hung out with her on Saturday and want to hang out with her again soon (like on a Thursday), is setting up a Saturday date too soon? Am I being overbearing and coming off as needy? Thing is, this girl is a bit conservative and I suspect she has a "three date rule" kind of thing, which Chase has mentioned before. How do I set up another date after Thursday and should it be immediately after or like a week after?

Thanks again!

 

[Franco]

SteveUno,

By the way, Franco, I have a question for you regarding setting up dates. If I hung out with her on Saturday and want to hang out with her again soon (like on a Thursday), is setting up a Saturday date too soon? Am I being overbearing and coming off as needy? Thing is, this girl is a bit conservative and I suspect she has a "three date rule" kind of thing, which Chase has mentioned before. How do I set up another date after Thursday and should it be immediately after or like a week after?

The contact frequency is more important than the actual date itself. If you're seeing each other about once a week, then that's fine. I usually just make sure I'm not hitting her up for the next date RIGHT after we just had one (assuming it didn't end up with us having sex).

Today would be the perfect day to see what her schedule is like for the rest of the week or the weekend. If she's busy and can't give you an accurate date/time, then you can just wait until Sunday or early next week to hit her up again. Although if she contacted you, it's likely she'll be trying to clear out her schedule as much as possible to see you!

- Franco

 

[Bboy100]

Franco, sorry for the long post. Feel free to cherry pick what you want to reply to.

Haha, you need to learn to be a bit more arrogant/selfish here! You're under the mindset of "her time is more valuable than my time because she's more valuable" rather than "my time is more valuable than her time because I'm more valuable."

You're probably right here. I think the reason why I feel this way is because most girls I meet really are more busy than I am. Or at the very least, they value the activity of being on a date less than I do. This is because other than with schoolwork (which takes comparably little time), I feel like seduction is the best use of my time rn. In other words, there's nothing I'd rather be doing than being on a date with a girl. Since I'm already doing that just by being there with her, my time is inherently not valuable because in my mind, there's no better way to spend it. As a result, I'm naturally more accommodating with the women I date than I normally would be. <----I understand that this in of itself is a problem. But so far, I haven't really found a good way to fix it. Because I'm still not at a point where I've found a "mission" in life.

Additionally, there's an emotional tug that always tells me to be accommodating for her in every way possible (without compromising my own needs or being a doormat). Mainly because every time I'm not, women seem to lose interest...FAST. In my experience, I don't see most women going out of their way to make time for me or to do things for me. Anytime I make anything difficult for them, they just NEXT me. I've even had girls stop texting me back because I took too long to reply. lol

But even more importantly, I feel like if she gives a reason like "I have to study" or "I have an early morning class tomorrow" or something along those lines, it becomes difficult to persist regardless of whos time is more important. Because presumably, class is more important to her than men or a man she doesn't know. And even if that's not true, I feel like she would still stick to her guns because she wouldn't want to come off as desperate (i.e. she would think "even though I want to go home with this guy, I can't because I already told him I have to study and it would look super desperate for me to choose him over studying rn").

and that the opportunity to go home with me may never happen to her again.

Yeah. This would change the game. If you can communicate that this is the case without being an asshole, then I could see why she might forgo studying or whatever other important activity she has planned. But in her mind, why is this her only opportunity? To her, wouldn't this come off as being waay too much of dick? Cause even if you do successfully give her the impression that this is the case, I feel like what that communicates is: "I don't give a shit about you, I just want to sleep with you now. Regardless of your life and what's going on in it. <---I would imagine that's a pretty big turnoff for her.

 

[Franco]

Bboy,

You're probably right here. I think the reason why I feel this way is because most girls I meet really are more busy than I am. Or at the very least, they value the activity of being on a date less than I do. This is because other than with schoolwork (which takes comparably little time), I feel like seduction is the best use of my time rn. In other words, there's nothing I'd rather be doing than being on a date with a girl. Since I'm already doing that just by being there with her, my time is inherently not valuable because in my mind, there's no better way to spend it. As a result, I'm naturally more accommodating with the women I date than I normally would be. <----I understand that this in of itself is a problem. But so far, I haven't really found a good way to fix it. Because I'm still not at a point where I've found a "mission" in life.

Yeah, I mean, you tend to strike a balance once you get more experience. Until you have enough experience, it's kind of you mostly fumbling around and being slightly more accommodating because you feel like being less accommodating is only going to lose you girls. And incidentally, being less accommodating will lose you girls. But overall, your net gain of girls goes considerably up once you find that balance.

Just keep working at coming from a place of "my time is extremely important." Never de-value your time. The only reason you don't have a mission right now is that you don't have the time to devote to one, which ironically makes your time even more important because you need that extra time to formulate your mission. So value your own time!

Additionally, there's an emotional tug that always tells me to be accommodating for her in every way possible (without compromising my own needs or being a doormat). Mainly because every time I'm not, women seem to lose interest...FAST. In my experience, I don't see most women going out of their way to make time for me or to do things for me. Anytime I make anything difficult for them, they just NEXT me. I've even had girls stop texting me back because I took too long to reply. lol

Well, there's a difference between being "accommodating" and giving her the path of least resistance. I guess the best way to differentiate the two is that being "accommodating" is doing things for her that don't help you move the interaction forward toward sexual intimacy, while giving her "the path of least resistance" is providing alternative solutions for her that help her move toward sexual intimacy. So make sure you recognize what things you do for her that actually help you toward your goal rather than deter you (and her) from it.

But even more importantly, I feel like if she gives a reason like "I have to study" or "I have an early morning class tomorrow" or something along those lines, it becomes difficult to persist regardless of whos time is more important. Because presumably, class is more important to her than men or a man she doesn't know. And even if that's not true, I feel like she would still stick to her guns because she wouldn't want to come off as desperate (i.e. she would think "even though I want to go home with this guy, I can't because I already told him I have to study and it would look super desperate for me to choose him over studying rn").

Well, it's your job on the date to make you feel more important to her right at that moment!

Keep in mind, like I said above, most reasons/excuses are pre-determined resistance strategies for her. Most girls are used to guys just "giving up" on these cookie-cutter resistances, so you can sometimes easily catch girls off guard if you think TWO steps ahead and already plan on her saying something like that, and then have a suave response to it!

Of course, even when you persist, not every girl is going to go home with you on the first date, especially if she sees more boyfriend value in you than lover value. Which leads me to this...

Yeah. This would change the game. If you can communicate that this is the case without being an asshole, then I could see why she might forgo studying or whatever other important activity she has planned. But in her mind, why is this her only opportunity? To her, wouldn't this come off as being waay too much of dick? Cause even if you do successfully give her the impression that this is the case, I feel like what that communicates is: "I don't give a shit about you, I just want to sleep with you now. Regardless of your life and what's going on in it. <---I would imagine that's a pretty big turnoff for her.

If she really liked you after the date, you still have to be the same "you" that was presented to her. But as soon as you realize that you've given her enough persistence and first-date sex is not going to happen, you need to go into more of a "teasing" type of mode where you give her a little bit of what she could be having and then make your exit shortly after. For example, one way of doing this could be pulling her in for a romantic kiss, and then just as you begin to both use your tongues, pull away, wink at her, and say, "don't you have some studying to do? "

That's how a real player works his magic! You never come across as upset at her decision, but you make her feel like she could have gotten more but instead settled for less!

- Franco

 

[SteveUno]

Hey Franco,

In the podcast you mention domains which belong to women (like social media), which I've also read about before on this site. So if I'm to set up a date with this girl to see theatre (which she's all about), do I have her choose which performance we see, or do I take the lead and choose one? I thought it might be good to give her a task, but this is only our second date and I'm wondering if it's wiser for me to take the lead and show dominance. However, she's into theatre and this is her domain. So should I ask for her input in choosing a show?

Thanks

 

[HellAtlantic]

Hey Franco,

In the podcast you mention domains which belong to women (like social media), which I've also read about before on this site. So if I'm to set up a date with this girl to see theatre (which she's all about), do I have her choose which performance we see, or do I take the lead and choose one? I thought it might be good to give her a task, but this is only our second date and I'm wondering if it's wiser for me to take the lead and show dominance. However, she's into theatre and this is her domain. So should I ask for her input in choosing a show?

Thanks

You: "why don't you choose the theater we're going to since you're the theater pro - I'll choose the restaurant."

Simple.

Just be yourself. Don't worry about every little thing you need to do to show dominance. You're either truly a dominant guy or you're not, eventually you're true self will come out anyway. It's not very dominant to go to a forum and asking other guys what's the dominant thing to do in a situation. Just be yourself. Besides letting her pick the venue isn't going to make you a beta bitch all of a sudden. You show more confidence in yourself by showing an ability to defer to her better judgement on matters she excels in than foolishly picking a crappy play to go see all because you want to give the impression you're a dominant guy.

 

[SteveUno]

It's not very dominant to go to a forum and asking other guys what's the dominant thing to do in a situation. Just be yourself. Besides letting her pick the venue isn't going to make you a beta bitch all of a sudden. You show more confidence in yourself by showing an ability to defer to her better judgement on matters she excels in than foolishly picking a crappy play to go see all because you want to give the impression you're a dominant guy.

Lol Not even gonna entertain this passive aggressive douchey response. If you want to see dominance, get in a cage fight with me little man.

 

[SteveUno]

If she really liked you after the date, you still have to be the same "you" that was presented to her. But as soon as you realize that you've given her enough persistence and first-date sex is not going to happen, you need to go into more of a "teasing" type of mode where you give her a little bit of what she could be having and then make your exit shortly after. For example, one way of doing this could be pulling her in for a romantic kiss, and then just as you begin to both use your tongues, pull away, wink at her, and say, "don't you have some studying to do? "

That's how a real player works his magic! You never come across as upset at her decision, but you make her feel like she could have gotten more but instead settled for less!

- Franco

Franco, you pretty much nailed it here. When persistence fades, never getting mad and keeping it playful yet sexy is the way to go. That shows the devil may care attitude pretty well.

Just the other day I picked up a girl on the street and set up a date for this weekend. She texted me randomly saying she thought I was really hot (I got out of the gym when I picked her up and I'm an athlete with a six pack so I use my post-gym time effectively lol) But I was busy so I didn't respond, but when I texted her back the next day, she quickly got defensive about, saying she was drunk when she sent it even though it was sent at about 2pm. Like you mentioned, it takes a lot for a girl to put herself out there and her reputation is always something she's mindful of.

But it reinforces the timing thing about texts. I would've been better for me to text her soon after. Regardless, she's still texting me and is on my cock. She's a tall hot blonde and I assume her reputation is important, but when she'll put herself out there and continue to do so, it really puts things in my favor. No doubt looking to shag her this weekend.

You might even notice on Tinder that if a girl sends you a message first and you don't reply soon, she may well just unmatch you to save face. I've seen this pattern and now I make it a thing to say something back pretty soon after. I'm being way more mindful of when I text girls back because it's amazing how much timing matters, especially with how womens' emotions can change about you so quickly. In that podcast, you brought up how you keep texts ambiguous. I started doing this about a year ago and I've noticed that it shows dominance and masculinity to not say much over texts. There's a stoic element to it, and like you said, texts are a domain of women. Also, letting her simply wonder about you because you don't mention much about yourself in texts is a good way to keep the mystery.